Tiger Bails From The Canadian Open, AGAIN

[racmbs]

I've already ranted in another thread, so I'll post this article and listen to what other Tiger fans have to say about this.

Last time I saw him was at Royal Montreal when I followed both Tiger and Garcia. I'm a HUGE fan and would like nothing more than to see him play in our beautiful country, but this constant dodging of this event has got me steaming mad and I want some answers dang-nabbit!!

Bob, get on the horn with Tiger's posse and find out just what is keeping this boy from playing in our Open's. I'll bet it's the announcement of the new and improved Toonie that's keeping him away this time.:D

http://sports.sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/Home/ContentPosting.aspx?feedname=CBC-SPORTS-V2&newsitemid=woods-canadian-open&showbyline=True

[justgiver]

He simply won't play 4 events in a row. The fact he is unoffical host of the Deutsche Bank Tourney this week and it's proximity in date to our Championship was a death knell for our chance to see him. Things might change next year with the new July date, but don't hold your breath...

[TehFlakes]

its not just tiger, its a lot of the big names.

quite sad honestly.

[Just hit it]

Who is the highest ranked golfer playing? I think I heard that Calc is also bailing due to a wrist injury.

Ian legget wrote an article in Score magazine about trying to get more PGA player to start coming to the canadian open.

maybe we could get a TGN foursome into the open???:rofl:

[Phnert]

Blame it partly on Clublink...They have to fulfill contractual obligations and play Glen Abbey and Angus Glen...and the PGA players hate these courses

Gives the Canadian open a bad rap

[jayda]

They (PGA) should implement a rule like LPGA - every player has to play each event on tour at least once every 4 yrs (maybe 5 in case of PGA)...

[Thimble]

the best way to get more americans to play would be if mike weir (or any other canadian) won. then we could totally market the tourney as a national event.

the best chance for that to happen is if we had a weaker field...

[ForeontheFloor]

Eldrick is simply afraid of Hamilton Golf & Country Club. He knows it's a tight course and he won't hit any fairways. When I talked to him yesterday he's all "I'm tired, I'm tired I call BS on him and he admitted he was scared of the course. At least now I can enjoy my countries open in peace.

Woods......we don't need no stinking Woods.

[focal]

too much work to get Privacy docked in Hamilton.

[fresh]

too much work to get Privacy docked in Hamilton.

HAHAHA!

at least Furyk and Ogilvy are playing!

Im assuming Camilo is playing cuz he was in town for the promo event a few weeks ago.

[Samick]

I'll go out on a limb and say that Tiger NEVER plays in Canada again......why?

He already won the Triple Crown! (Canadian, US, and British Open)

He is all about trophies and records...he has the triple crown so why should he travel up here again? There isnt enough money here to pay him an appearance fee......hes long gone boys.

[milhaus]

What, you expect God to play in our little shindig? The course isn't good enough for him to hit his practice shots on (while beating all of the competition) and there's talk of a French rules official who would have never given him a free drop last week. Not suprising in the least.

[Dan_L]

and the list of tiger haters GROWS AND GROWS!

[ForeontheFloor]

and the list of tiger haters GROWS AND GROWS!

Hey get behind me I was first

Proud hater since 97

[EdmontonGolfer]

Hey get behind me I was first

Pround hater since 97

Same. I can't stand his cockiness. Not showing up for smaller tournaments just adds to his "I'm too good for you" attitude.

[bigred]

I'm a little sad, although definitely not surprised, that Tiger and Phil won't be attending. The Canadian Open isn't exactly a top-tier event anymore (it hasn't been for years) - both the PGA and the RCGA can be to blame. I was hoping, however, that the positive reviews that Hamilton G&CC received after 2003(?) would help bolster this year's field.

I suspect next year's field, with the tournament's July date around the British Open, will be even weaker. :(

[Dan_L]

Being a fan of Phil, does anyone notice they dont start a "Phil isnt coming to the canadian open" thread or something of the like?

I think more people like Phil. GO FIGJAM!

[EdmontonGolfer]

Being a fan of Phil, does anyone notice they dont start a "Phil isnt coming to the canadian open" thread or something of the like?

I think more people like Phil. GO FIGJAM!

I think even people who dislike Phil, haven't built up the hate for him they have for Tiger.:D

[EDSGolf]

They (PGA) should implement a rule like LPGA - every player has to play each event on tour at least once every 4 yrs (maybe 5 in case of PGA)...

Now that is a GREAT idea. I didn't know that existed on the LPGA.

Also, the Canadian Open is not covered by any of the US networks, therefore less publicity of the Tiger Machine. I'm sure Tiger is receiving no pressure from any of his sponsors to play.

[golf nut]

Being a fan of Phil, does anyone notice they dont start a "Phil isnt coming to the canadian open" thread or something of the like?

I think more people like Phil. GO FIGJAM!

Phil who? Dr Phil, Prince Phil? Phil Harmonic?

[Ego Woods]

I'll go out on a limb and say that Tiger NEVER plays in Canada again......why?

He already won the Triple Crown! (Canadian, US, and British Open)



I think the reason you gave is probably not Tiger's real reason. You give him a challenge and he'll always accept it. Saying that he wants to keep the triple crown intact is totally false.

I've already ranted in another thread, so I'll post this article and listen to what other Tiger fans have to say about this.

Last time I saw him was at Royal Montreal when I followed both Tiger and Garcia. I'm a HUGE fan and would like nothing more than to see him play in our beautiful country, but this constant dodging of this event has got me steaming mad and I want some answers dang-nabbit!!

Bob, get on the horn with Tiger's posse and find out just what is keeping this boy from playing in our Open's. I'll bet it's the announcement of the new and improved Toonie that's keeping him away this time.:D

http://sports.sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/Home/ContentPosting.aspx?feedname=CBC-SPORTS-V2&newsitemid=woods-canadian-open&showbyline=True

Scotty, I take it you already bought ur tix to the President's Cup? :D

I'm just as sad of the idea that Tiger may never play our national championship especially given where we're situated in next year's sched.

[Dan_L]

Phil who? Dr Phil, Prince Phil? Phil Harmonic?

Just not Dr Phil, that guy is a quack.

[Samick]

[quote=Ego Woods]I think the reason you gave is probably not Tiger's real reason. You give him a challenge and he'll always accept it. Saying that he wants to keep the triple crown intact is totally false.[quote]

I'm not saying that he wants to keep it in tact....I'm saying he has already won it....so why bother again? Thats all.

[racmbs]

I say next year we just don't invite him and when he calls asking about the tourney, I say we use the "Leave a message and we'll get right back to you, Mr. Woods" routine.

That'll set him straight. :D

[Dan_L]

"your name is what? Tiger Who?"

[dekker]

They bail because we let them! We're Canadian and it's tradition we let everybody get away with everything.
No please ! Don't wipe your feet.We'll wipe up after! Thankyou!.

[el tigre]

I'm a little sad, although definitely not surprised, that Tiger and Phil won't be attending. The Canadian Open isn't exactly a top-tier event anymore (it hasn't been for years) - both the PGA and the RCGA can be to blame. I was hoping, however, that the positive reviews that Hamilton G&CC received after 2003(?) would help bolster this year's field.

I suspect next year's field, with the tournament's July date around the British Open, will be even weaker. :( I think you can lay the blame squarely on the shoulders of Fincham (the PGA Commissioner). The biggest problem with the Cdn Open is the dates in relation to other events, and that is Fincham's doing.

Outside of the majors, the Cdn Open is in the top tier in terms of prize money so I think the RCGA is trying hard to promote it. Like all national opens, the venues change and players will always like some more than others. The players don't like it when the US Open goes west either - but it is a major so they'll show up regardless.

And yes, next year will be even worse. You have 2 majors, a WGC event and the Canadian Open in a span of 4 weeks. Which week do you think the top players are going to take a rest?

They (PGA) should implement a rule like LPGA - every player has to play each event on tour at least once every 4 yrs (maybe 5 in case of PGA)... It is an interesting idea, but it is too late for the PGA to try that now. They've kinda dropped the ball on that one by letting the WGC get into the game.

The problem on the men's side is that there are now 4 majors, one "almost major" (Players Championship at Sawgrass) and 3 big-money WGC events that ALL of the top players pretty much have to participate in. Plus most of them are also at the Mercedes at the beginning of the year, and the top American players are also committed to either the Ryder Cup or President's Cup at the end of the year.

So if you're Tiger Woods, that's 10 tournaments that are already set in stone before the year starts. Then there is Arnie's tournament (Bay Hill), Jack's tournament (Memorial) and the Western Open that you don't want to miss. One of your biggest sponsors (Buick) hosts two tournaments that you should try to support - that endorsement money doesn't come without a few strings attached. That's now 15 tournaments that pretty much define your tour schedule.

[Bellyhungry]

RCGA only cares about $ when it comes to the CDN Open. They are an arcane and stoic organization who is out of step with the modern times; unable to think critically.

They will be smart to hire the man in charged of the Wachovia Championship at Quail Hollow, and learn how they manage to grow the event (Wachovia) in a few year span.

BTW, if the CDN is broadcasted in HD, I really could care less if Tiger is here or not. Seeing Hamilton GC on HD will be an eye-opener.

Side note: I heard somewhere that Hamilton GC was called Augusta North. It is a magnificient piece of property.

[ForeontheFloor]

Screw Woods
Hamilton is a short,tight,shot makers course lets invite Jack to the open.

Screw Woods

[hogannut]

I put my 2 cents in on the other canadian open thread about who are you going to follow. I think it is deplorable and for someone who is supposedly a world wide golfer can't come to our national open, yet he'll fly half away around the world to play in Asia. Very disapointing Tiger. You have lots time to rest AFTER the season is over.

[SliceHooker]

Just a thought but what if the Canadian Open considered becoming an WGC event? Would this even be possible?

[laxgolf]

I think you can lay the blame squarely on the shoulders of Fincham (the PGA Commissioner). The biggest problem with the Cdn Open is the dates in relation to other events, and that is Fincham's doing.

Outside of the majors, the Cdn Open is in the top tier in terms of prize money so I think the RCGA is trying hard to promote it. Like all national opens, the venues change and players will always like some more than others. The players don't like it when the US Open goes west either - but it is a major so they'll show up regardless.

And yes, next year will be even worse. You have 2 majors, a WGC event and the Canadian Open in a span of 4 weeks. Which week do you think the top players are going to take a rest?

It is an interesting idea, but it is too late for the PGA to try that now. They've kinda dropped the ball on that one by letting the WGC get into the game.

The problem on the men's side is that there are now 4 majors, one "almost major" (Players Championship at Sawgrass) and 3 big-money WGC events that ALL of the top players pretty much have to participate in. Plus most of them are also at the Mercedes at the beginning of the year, and the top American players are also committed to either the Ryder Cup or President's Cup at the end of the year.

So if you're Tiger Woods, that's 10 tournaments that are already set in stone before the year starts. Then there is Arnie's tournament (Bay Hill), Jack's tournament (Memorial) and the Western Open that you don't want to miss. One of your biggest sponsors (Buick) hosts two tournaments that you should try to support - that endorsement money doesn't come without a few strings attached. That's now 15 tournaments that pretty much define your tour schedule.

Wow, put that way I can't see how he ever plays in Canada ever again (aside from the Pres Cup next year). He only plays 18 or 19 events as it is. Don't forget the Dubai Cla$$ic that he goes to for whatever rea$on$. Did I mention that I don't know the rea$on why Wood$ keep$ going back to that tourney every year? It'$ an unknown my$tery to me.

[pudubny]

I put my 2 cents in on the other canadian open thread about who are you going to follow. I think it is deplorable and for someone who is supposedly a world wide golfer can't come to our national open, yet he'll fly half away around the world to play in Asia. Very disapointing Tiger. You have lots time to rest AFTER the season is over.

One key difference is that Tiger gets at least $1M to fly and play in Asia he gets no guaranteed money for coming to Canada. I like Tiger alot but I have said before that outside the Open Championship, he only plays on foreign soil when offered appearance money. How do you protest Tigers unwillingness to come, may I suggest not buying his sponsors products. No Nike for me. Not working so far though, I don't think they have noticed.
Now as for Finchem screwing the Candian Open, actually I think the RCGA has butchered the job. Finchem could not consider a tournament seriously that consistently screws things up like the RCGA. The sponsorship issue was not solid and how they have handled course selection lately is quite a joke. They were considered as part of the Fall Finish playoff format apparently, but with no long term sponsor in place at the time, they did not get it.

El Tigre said that outside the majors the CDN Open is in the top tier in prize money. I do not think that is true. I believe it has been in the middle tier at best. This years event may have more money but in the past I do not believe that was true. Majors, TPC, WGC events and then the big name events like Wachovia lead the money list.

As for hiring the tournament director from Wachovia, I do not think he would have come without a major long term sponsor in place. It's pretty easy to make a tournament look great when the sponsor is willing to spend the money. That has not been true to CDN Open Sponsors. Not to the extend that Wachovia will.
Love the debate.
Pud.

[BdaGolfer]

Wow, put that way I can't see how he ever plays in Canada ever again (aside from the Pres Cup next year). He only plays 18 or 19 events as it is. Don't forget the Dubai Cla$$ic that he goes to for whatever rea$on$. Did I mention that I don't know the rea$on why Wood$ keep$ going back to that tourney every year? It'$ an unknown my$tery to me.

I $uppo$e one could gue$$, but any $u$picion$ would be ba$ele$$...

Alan

[guitarman]

So Tiger is bad because Canada can't afford him? What a bunch of crap. If this forum is indicitave of the attitude of Canadian golf associations toward Tiger, then I don't blame him for not wanting to come. Alot people here casting stones because it seems like Tiger goes where the money is. How many of you will let your jobs take you to where your not compensated properly for your market value?

[Golden Bear]

As I'm not attending the Open in person ... this really doesn't bother me. I've seen plenty of Tiger on TV lately, so while it would be nice if he attended our national open, I'll be fine watching other golfers. It's not like there aren't some names who will be there. And if Tiger and Phil aren't there ... well, a better chance for a Canadian to win.

I can't really blame him for not coming. Why would he? What's the motivation? It's not the prestige tournament it was when some called it the unofficial "fifth major". It's not a big money tournament. It's got no personal tie for Tiger. Sure, it's a "national open" ... but to have a national open, all you need are a nation and an open. Does Tiger have to attend the open of every nation that decides to hold one? Even if it fits awkwardly into his schedule?

If we want guys like Tiger to come, then the job of making it enticing is that of the organizers. Tiger doesn't have to come just because we're nice people. The tournament has to be worthwhile. Rather than being mad at Tiger, I'm dismayed that a tournament that once attracted the big names no longer does so.

I'd like to see Tiger play in the Canadian Open, but I'd assumed all along he wouldn't be coming, so this is hardly a shock. In the end I don't imagine that we'll care that Tiger wasn't there.

[Bellyhungry]

It is 100% because of the inept RCGA that the CDN Open fell to such low standing.

Who do they answer to?

[Golden Bear]

The sponsors, I suppose, or whoever they're getting money from. But on that note ... who is the Open's sponsor now? I know they parted ways with Bell because they were looking for a more international sponsor, but I've heard nothing since then.

[hogannut]

One key difference is that Tiger gets at least $1M to fly and play in Asia he gets no guaranteed money for coming to Canada. I like Tiger alot but I have said before that outside the Open Championship, he only plays on foreign soil when offered appearance money. How do you protest Tigers unwillingness to come, may I suggest not buying his sponsors products. No Nike for me. Not working so far though, I don't think they have noticed.
Now as for Finchem screwing the Candian Open, actually I think the RCGA has butchered the job. Finchem could not consider a tournament seriously that consistently screws things up like the RCGA. The sponsorship issue was not solid and how they have handled course selection lately is quite a joke. They were considered as part of the Fall Finish playoff format apparently, but with no long term sponsor in place at the time, they did not get it.

El Tigre said that outside the majors the CDN Open is in the top tier in prize money. I do not think that is true. I believe it has been in the middle tier at best. This years event may have more money but in the past I do not believe that was true. Majors, TPC, WGC events and then the big name events like Wachovia lead the money list.

As for hiring the tournament director from Wachovia, I do not think he would have come without a major long term sponsor in place. It's pretty easy to make a tournament look great when the sponsor is willing to spend the money. That has not been true to CDN Open Sponsors. Not to the extend that Wachovia will.
Love the debate.
Pud.

All your points are valid. Tiger does not need the $, we all know that so appearance fees and purses should not be of that much concern to him. Sometimes you have to make "sacrifices" when you are in a position that TIger is in. Look at Nicklaus playing the skins game. Jack is no dummy he knows he has no business playing against Daly, Garcai and Ames, but he does it because it is the right thing to do. Yes Tiger has played a lot lately. He's 30 years old and in perfect shape. He could take a week off and rest betrween last weekend and the 8th of Spetember. Like I said in the other thread if you don't want to come EVERY year that's fine, but show up once in a while. I heard this BS scheduling crap before. You know what, sometimes schedules don't work out, but you work with it, you just don't not show up. I don't think hockey players like playing back to back games in 2 nights with a flight from one city to the next included, but they have to do it, IT"S THEIR JOB! Stop being a ***** Tiger, suck it up, and prove you are a true international player.

Blame it partly on Clublink...They have to fulfill contractual obligations and play Glen Abbey and Angus Glen...and the PGA players hate these courses

Gives the Canadian open a bad rap

THe players LOVE Hamilton. What are you refering to?

[guitarman]

I don't think hockey players like playing back to back games in 2 nights with a flight from one city to the next included, but they have to do it, IT"S THEIR JOB! Stop being a ***** Tiger, suck it up, and prove you are a true international player.



And don't we all love watching unispired play of famous hockey players that will get paid at the end of the night wether they win, lose or how little they contribute. Bad comparison.
Amd as for your last line "Tiger, suck it up, and prove you are a true international player." Well there just isn't enough words to describe what an ignorant statement that was.

[hogannut]

And don't we all love watching unispired play of famous hockey players that will get paid at the end of the night wether they win, lose or how little they contribute. Bad comparison.
Amd as for your last line "Tiger, suck it up, and prove you are a true international player." Well there just isn't enough words to describe what an ignorant statement that was.

SO you think it is OK that TIger has played once in 10 years at our national open? Since I am ignorant let me correct your grammar on the last sentence. It should read as "Well there just AREN"T enough words to describe what an ignorant statment that was". You see ISN"T is a singular and AREN"T is a plural and since you pluralilized the sentence by using WORDS you should have said AREN'T instead of ISN'T.

I am a big Tiger fan and always support him because it is hard always being the centre of attention. Like I said fine if you don't or can't make it every year, but once in 10 years to a country like Canada for their national open is unacceptable to me as a golf fan and a Canadian.

[RobertThompson]

Geoff Ogilvy is now out as well...

[pudubny]

So Tiger is bad because Canada can't afford him? What a bunch of crap. If this forum is indicitave of the attitude of Canadian golf associations toward Tiger, then I don't blame him for not wanting to come. Alot people here casting stones because it seems like Tiger goes where the money is. How many of you will let your jobs take you to where your not compensated properly for your market value?


I do not understand your state at all.
Canada cannot afford him? The CDN Open is forbidden under PGA Tour rules from offering appearance money. The Euro Tour and Asian Tours are not.
Tiger himself claims he would like to be a "International Player". What we have seen in the last 4 years is that only when offered appearance money does he play Internationally aside form some WGC events and the Open Championship.
Makes him a good businessman I am sure. But sure does not live up to his claims to wanting to be an Internatinal player.
So when Tiger plays 19 events on the Tour, he is competing, not going where the money is.
Pud.

[guitarman]

SO you think it is OK that TIger has played once in 10 years at our national open? Since I am ignorant let me correct your grammar on the last sentence. It should read as "Well there just AREN"T enough words to describe what an ignorant statment that was". You see ISN"T is a singular and AREN"T is a plural and since you pluralilized the sentence by using WORDS you should have said AREN'T instead of ISN'T.

I am a big Tiger fan and always support him because it is hard always being the centre of attention. Like I said fine if you don't or can't make it every year, but once in 10 years to a country like Canada for their national open is unacceptable to me as a golf fan and a Canadian.

Geez you must be pretty busy mr internet spell/grammar checker. Since I'm not the only one that types quick messages over discussion forums. If that is your only defence to my comment, well....

[hogannut]

Geez you must be pretty busy mr internet spell/grammar checker. Since I'm not the only one that types quick messages over discussion forums. If that is your only defence to my comment, well....

Well.....I;m obviously not the only one who is scratching their heads about your opinions. To call someone ignorant because you don't agree with their opinion is somewhat ignorant. A bit of the kettle calling the pot black if you ask me.

As for Tiger, I stand by my position that a country like Canada that is as passionate about golf as we are deserves to have the worlds best players at our biggest and most important event of the year. Once in 10 years isn't good enough IN MY OPINION!

So why dont' you address the actaual thread and state your OPINION on why you think it is OK for Tiger to show up once a decade.

By the way I don't use a gramar check or spell check and I constantly make keying errors while I type. When I went through the education system gramar was still considered important. My grandmother was a teacher in a 1 room school house and insisted that I learn the English language properly.

[guitarman]

Well.....I;m obviously not the only one who is scratching their heads about your opinions. To call someone ignorant because you don't agree with their opinion is somewhat ignorant. A bit of the kettle calling the pot black if you ask me.

.

Why don't you go back and point out to me where I called "YOU" ignorant. If you need help with the big words, let me know.:D


As for Tiger, I stand by my position that a country like Canada that is as passionate about golf as we are deserves to have the worlds best players at our biggest and most important event of the year. Once in 10 years isn't good enough IN MY OPINION!

So why dont' you address the actaual thread and state your OPINION on why you think it is OK for Tiger to show up once a decade.



Apparently not many of the big names agree with you this year.


. My grandmother was a teacher in a 1 room school house and insisted that I learn the English language properly.

Well you missed my point there. Thats ok I'll spell it out for you. Its not that I don't know. But sometimes like most on discussion forums I type quickly and make many an error. For example type weak when I meant week or there when I meant thier. Having people like you point out every error would make the Internet cumbersome. Myself I try not to point out things like this, I generally know what the poster meant, unless I truly needed to clarify meaning.

[FORE Left]

Huge Nike fan... and Tiger fan as well... and yes, I am disappointed that Tiger and the other big names aren't showing up.

Interesting discussion - with some people frothing at the mouth because Tiger shunned them, yet again.

But, c'mon guys... the Canadian Open is just not a marquee tournament. Last year, the purse for the Cdn Open was U$5.0M. That puts it at less than the average PGA event. The Open doesn't even get major US network coverage.

Couple all this with the fact that he will have played what, 3 weeks in a row now (and a trip to the K club to boot)... and there was no way he was going to show at Hamilton.

The Ryder Cup is around the corner... he's probably taking the time off to gear up for it.

Will Tiger ever be back - I hope so... but with the date that the Canadian Open got for next year and thereafter... I'm not holding my breath.

[racmbs]

Holy.....I didn't mean for this thread to take the direction it has.

I'm just a ticked off Canadian who was holding his breath with the anticipation of Tiger MAYBE making an appearance.

Oh well.......maybe by the time he's 50, he'll decide it's the right thing to do once he's broken all the records and made a gajillion dollars doing it.

Until then, may he get diarrhea while playing in the Deutsche Bank Championship as a result of ditching us Canadians in favor of this tourney. :D

[ForeontheFloor]

You want Eldrick, get the open a US tv deal

I for one am looking forward to not hearing Tiger this, Tiger that, Tiger blew his nose


Until then, may he get diarrhea while playing in the Deutsche Bank Championship as a result of ditching us Canadians in favor of this tourney. :D

YEAH!!! What he said

[guitarman]

I am a Tiger fan but atleast with him not being there I won't know the outcome ahead of time:D

[RobertThompson]

You want Eldrick, get the open a US tv deal

I for one am looking forward to not hearing Tiger this, Tiger that, Tiger blew his nose



YEAH!!! What he said

The Open has an American TV deal as of next year. I believe it is televised this year, as it has been for some time, on ESPN. Next year -- Golf Channel/TSN for Thurs/Fri and on network Sat/Sun.

RT

[ForeontheFloor]

The Open has an American TV deal as of next year. I believe it is televised this year, as it has been for some time, on ESPN. Next year -- Golf Channel/TSN for Thurs/Fri and on network Sat/Sun.

RT

Sorry I meant network deal

[iyah]

SO you think it is OK that TIger has played once in 10 years at our national open? Since I am ignorant let me correct your grammar on the last sentence. It should read as "Well there just AREN"T enough words to describe what an ignorant statment that was". You see ISN"T is a singular and AREN"T is a plural and since you pluralilized the sentence by using WORDS you should have said AREN'T instead of ISN'T.

I am a big Tiger fan and always support him because it is hard always being the centre of attention. Like I said fine if you don't or can't make it every year, but once in 10 years to a country like Canada for their national open is unacceptable to me as a golf fan and a Canadian.

Just to set the record straight, he has played in 4 Canadian Opens over 10 years. Last in 2001.

[RobertThompson]

There is a network deal -- it starts next year and costs the RCGA an additional $2 million in advertising time it -- or a sponsor -- would have to cover.

[ForeontheFloor]

There is a network deal -- it starts next year and costs the RCGA an additional $2 million in advertising time it -- or a sponsor -- would have to cover.

Yes we know but that doesn't help the Woods fans this year.
The date will kill us next year.

[guitarman]

Just to set the record straight, he has played in 4 Canadian Opens over 10 years. Last in 2001.

My boss and I were just discussing this over lunch and he said that Tiger was here only a few years ago.

[iyah]

My boss and I were just discussing this over lunch and he said that Tiger was here only a few years ago.

Bet him tomorrow then.

[RobertThompson]

Yes we know but that doesn't help the Woods fans this year.
The date will kill us next year.

I didn't say the date was good....

[racmbs]

My boss and I were just discussing this over lunch and he said that Tiger was here only a few years ago.

96, 97, 2000 (won), 2001 (Royal Montreal)

[ForeontheFloor]

I didn't say the date was good....

Yeah, you and the rest of Canada

Oh Canada

[hogannut]

Just to set the record straight, he has played in 4 Canadian Opens over 10 years. Last in 2001.

Thanks for the correction. I was not aware of that. I stand corrected.

Why don't you go back and point out to me where I called "YOU" ignorant. If you need help with the big words, let me know.:D



Apparently not many of the big names agree with you this year.



Well you missed my point there. Thats ok I'll spell it out for you. Its not that I don't know. But sometimes like most on discussion forums I type quickly and make many an error. For example type weak when I meant week or there when I meant thier. Having people like you point out every error would make the Internet cumbersome. Myself I try not to point out things like this, I generally know what the poster meant, unless I truly needed to clarify meaning.

So instead you just insult peoples opinions? My points are just as valid as the next guys and if you don't agree with them, fine but just because you don't agree doesn't make the other persons thoughts ignorant. I was mistaken about the number of appearances so I appoligize as I based the original thread based on the thought he has only come once in 10 years. However I maintain my position that when you are an elite level player sometimes you have to things you may not want to in order to protect the integrity of your vocation. Tiger will be one of the most successful people in the world because of golf and therefore he may have to make some appearances that as a "regular" player would not be of a concern. If Woods is going around preaching he's a world wide player, then he needs to understand a country like Canada deserves to have him at their national open. My opinion!:hush:

[Bellyhungry]

As for Tiger, I stand by my position that a country like Canada that is as passionate about golf as we are deserves to have the worlds best players at our biggest and most important event of the year. Once in 10 years isn't good enough IN MY OPINION!

According to Clint:

Deserve ain't got nuthin' to do with it

- Dirty Harry

[hogannut]

According to Clint:

Deserve ain't got nuthin' to do with it

- Dirty Harry

If Callahan said so then in must be so. You don't argue with a 44 magnum.:D

[guitarman]

So instead you just insult peoples opinions? My points are just as valid as the next guys and if you don't agree with them, fine but just because you don't agree doesn't make the other persons thoughts ignorant. I was mistaken about the number of appearances so I appoligize as I based the original thread based on the thought he has only come once in 10 years. However I maintain my position that when you are an elite level player sometimes you have to things you may not want to in order to protect the integrity of your vocation. Tiger will be one of the most successful people in the world because of golf and therefore he may have to make some appearances that as a "regular" player would not be of a concern. If Woods is going around preaching he's a world wide player, then he needs to understand a country like Canada deserves to have him at their national open. My opinion!

I have agreed with nost of what you said. The only thing I took exception to and I criticized this statement not you personally:

Tiger, suck it up, and prove you are a true international player.



I think Tiger in his career has very little left to prove. IMO. Sorry if it came off a bit strong.