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962B
Apr 8, 2005, 12:59 AM
Just a few:
Callaway C4 Driver
Taylor Made Inergel Golf Balls
Cleveland VAS irons
Wilson Invex woods
Bi-Matrix shafts
Anything else out there?:confused:
pudubny
Apr 8, 2005, 06:21 AM
I am not sure about all of them but I would not call the C4 driver from Callaway a bad idea. It did bomb in the sales side.
But, the current Callaway model is based on the same idea of using lighter materials in the top of the club head so you can increase the weight behind and below the ball. Cleveland's new driver also incorporates the same technology. I believe the new Cobra driver does as well.
Many believe the C4 was a brilliant idea that is now becoming the standard. I think the reason it failed was because the ball made a weird sound when it came off the club, not the great noise we have come to expect from titanium drivers.
So I think the C4 was a bad first attempt at a brilliant idea.
Pud.
RidetoGolf
Apr 8, 2005, 07:51 AM
I do like the look and the sound of the C4 driver. But I am not sure if it there was a designing flaw in the driver ... I cracked something inside my friend's C4. I mean, I am not a long/hard hitter at all.
He ended up getting a replacement (BBII) from Callaway through GolfTown without a receipt.
el tigre
Apr 8, 2005, 08:30 AM
I don't think either the Callaway C4 or BiMatrx shafts were bad ideas - in fact they were both ahead of their time.
As stated by pudubny, the Callaway C4 was the first driver (at least by a major OEM) to incorporate lighter materials with titanium to put more weight behind the ball and is the precursor of all the new graphite/titanium combo driver heads coming onto the market today.
The BiMatrx was the first tip-stiff graphite shaft (at least from a major shaft manufacturer), and really marked the time that golfers began to realize that graphite shafts can have different characteristics along their length. After its introduction other shaft companies began coming out with their own low-torque, tip-stiff shafts that were all graphite. The BiMatrx is a very good shaft if you are looking to lower your trajectory, and they are still being made and sold by True Temper. Unfortunately the GT shafts made by True Temper for Adams irons (graphite-tipped steel shafts which have the opposite characteristics) are no longer manufactured, which is a pity because they are also excellent shafts.
haribo
Apr 8, 2005, 09:57 AM
Nothing wrong with the Bi-Matrix shaft. I played it for a while. Was a good shaft. I did hook the crap out of mine but only because I (and my clubmaker) failed to realize that I needed a full flex stiffer than I would have with other shafts.
The concept was less about low torque but rather combining the length of graphite with the accuracy of steel shafts.
Grass Roots Tour
Apr 8, 2005, 05:00 PM
I was really hoping the green fee packages were gonna flop. Thats a really bad idea whereby club owners were getting greedy over members playing too much. They looked at the numbers very few golfers were posting as a number of rounds per year and comparing it as $ value per round. Unhappy with the $ per round calculations they devised green fee packages... 50 rounds = $2000.00 yikes.
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