Golf Town salary

[tiger3311]

Hi,

Just wondering if any one here knows what golf town pays their employees. Such as sales person, assistant department manager, department manger and store manager.

Thanks

[racmbs]

Hi,

Just wondering if any one here knows what golf town pays their employees. Such as sales person, assistant department manager, department manger and store manager.

Thanks

Full-Time/Part-Time seasonal employees earn competitive wages on an hourly basis....I'd say anywhere between $9 and $11/hr depending on what skills you bring to the table.

I was a GM and can tell you they compensate very well for the position, but with a nice salary comes a big responsibility which goes well beyond product/industry knowledge. Assistant GM's and Department Heads are also well paid, but a lot is expected of them as they play key roles at each store and are considered the GM's right hand...and again, it goes well beyond product/industry knowledge for them too.

As for what those salaries are specifically, I along with other former/current GT employees won't be sharing that information. What I suggest is you apply at a location near you and work your way to the top....then you'll know just how much your hard work has paid off. ;)

[Big Shooter]

As for what those salaries are specifically, I along with other former/current GT employees won't be sharing that information.

c'mon Scott, give us a "range", or are you REALLY needing to honour some sort of 'confidentiality agreement' for LIFE!? :hush::rolleyes: ;)

[wayland]

Asking someone what salary they make is boorish.

[Bellyhungry]

It is not about the money, it is about how much you enjoy your work...:p

[racmbs]

c'mon Scott, give us a "range", or are you REALLY needing to honour some sort of 'confidentiality agreement' for LIFE!? :hush::rolleyes: ;)

The term acutally is "burning bridges"

Yes I signed a confidentiality agreement, but that's besides the point my friend. I'm simply not divulging it as it's not fair for me to do so to the other staff I've come to befriend over the years.

Their salary is nobodies business.

And my integrity is worth more to me than anything.

[goshawk]

Very well said Scott.

[Louie]

Very well said Scott.

I couldn't agree more. Hey racmbs are you still working there as the GM.

[corchard]

And my integrity is worth more to me than anything.

Since I have no friends, I'll give you a range: >$10K <$200K

[racmbs]

I couldn't agree more. Hey racmbs are you still working there as the GM.

No sir....it's been a while and miss it dearly.

Unfortunate family circumstances prevented me from doing my job and had to leave GT several years ago...but still remain in contact with people I came to befriend throughout my time. I did return back for a little while last year on a part-time basis, but my responsibilities at work here increased which prevented me from remaining even at a part-time capacity.

Anyone thinking of pursuing a career with GT would be a step in the right direction....they treat you very well and reward those that work hard and show initiative.

I'm glad I have TGN to fill the void a little......I like talking geek. :D

[The Troll]

It is not about the money, it is about how much you enjoy your work...:p

I had to see this with milk in my mouth....I'll never get the milk out of the keyboard. That's the funniest thing I'll read today. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:



And my integrity is worth more to me than anything.

Except maybe lunch at the Hooters in Hamilton. :D

[racmbs]

Except maybe lunch at the Hooters in Hamilton. :D

Ok...so I'm never going to live that "hey racmbs, look what she dropped behind you" comment ever, am I. :rofl:

[Louie]

No sir....it's been a while and miss it dearly.

Unfortunate family circumstances prevented me from doing my job and had to leave GT several years ago...but still remain in contact with people I came to befriend throughout my time. I did return back for a little while last year on a part-time basis, but my responsibilities at work here increased which prevented me from remaining even at a part-time capacity.

Anyone thinking of pursuing a career with GT would be a step in the right direction....they treat you very well and reward those that work hard and show initiative.

I'm glad I have TGN to fill the void a little......I like talking geek. :D

Thanks for the insight very helpful, was thinking about applying there but I would have to move back to London , and that just ain't happening.

[The Troll]

Ok...so I'm never going to live that "hey racmbs, look what she dropped behind you" comment ever, am I. :rofl:

Not now.... :rofl::rofl:

Back to the thread, have to say there appears to be minimal staff turnover at the Ancaster store so they must be decent employers.

[rgk5]

I totally agree and have been asked for this information many times with the same response.

I've been there since day one and love the place. We are on our third GM and they are all first rate managers and more importantly, top class people.

[Golfbum]

Thanks for the insight very helpful, was thinking about applying there but I would have to move back to London , and that just ain't happening.

I don't blame you, Goderich living has to be better than living in London. I live in ST T and hate driving in London traffic now. Getting as bad a TO. :rolleyes:

[Big Shooter]

I don't blame you, Goderich living has to be better than living in London. I live in ST T and hate driving in London traffic now. Getting as bad a TO. :rolleyes:

London as bad as Toronto for driving? That's a DREAM I've never contemplated! :(

The term acutally is "burning bridges"

Yes I signed a confidentiality agreement, but that's besides the point my friend. I'm simply not divulging it as it's not fair for me to do so to the other staff I've come to befriend over the years.

Their salary is nobodies business.

And my integrity is worth more to me than anything.

I'm not trying to pry info from you about salaries, but I thought I would just 'throw out the possibilty of salary ranges' as some folks don't have an idea what the various levels of a job like that is worth?

Guess they should check monster.com, or something!?;)

[kingplayer]

I totally agree and have been asked for this information many times with the same response.

I've been there since day one and love the place. We are on our third GM and they are all first rate managers and more importantly, top class people.

Hmmmmm I talked to a couple of employees at the store who told me the latest GM was a jerk and clueless!!! :hush:

[rgk5]

I have no idea why anyone would say that. You got an axe to grind, amigo?

[golfinseb]

Who considers $9-$11/hr competitive? Thats rediculously low pay, but that is for entry level non skilled employees, I would imagine. What do you consider a good paying job? I know that to me $40k/yr is the bare bones that I will consider.

I would hope that as a GM you would earn over $60k/yr, why not look into other retail stores and use thier pay scales as a guide? In all industry employers generally pay around the same, and regardless of wether they are high paying or low paying employers in general, it all comes down to the employees abilities and negotiating abilities. One thing is always a constant, those that work harder, care about thier job and go the extra mile will always benefit more, those that complain, slack off and generally have a bad attitude will remain low payed and never advance.

[tickyboy]

C'mon...London isn't nearly as bad as TO...in some places.....

I was in the London GT yesterday actually, was working in the neighbourhood. Nice place to look at all the new stuff...they had the new x20 tours. It's kind of funny when I'm offered a r7 Max iron as a new iron possibility.... *sigh* some people have no clue

[ondadl]

It's kind of funny when I'm offered a r7 Max iron as a new iron possibility.... *sigh* some people have no clue

Or when I was offered the R5 XD set at GT Markham yesterday. They told me they were blowing out last years' model for (dont even remember) $489. I'm pretty sure these had been sitting in the back for at least a few years now. UGLY!

[racmbs]

Who considers $9-$11/hr competitive? Thats rediculously low pay, but that is for entry level non skilled employees, I would imagine. What do you consider a good paying job? I know that to me $40k/yr is the bare bones that I will consider.

I would hope that as a GM you would earn over $60k/yr, why not look into other retail stores and use thier pay scales as a guide? In all industry employers generally pay around the same, and regardless of wether they are high paying or low paying employers in general, it all comes down to the employees abilities and negotiating abilities. One thing is always a constant, those that work harder, care about thier job and go the extra mile will always benefit more, those that complain, slack off and generally have a bad attitude will remain low payed and never advance.

Seb, re-read my post please.

I said $9-$11/HR for Full Time/Part-Time seasonal employees.

Don't forget my friend, you cannot compare retail jobs to an office environment and in my books, that hourly wage is VERY competitve given the minimum wage in Canada right now is $8.50/hr

I don't care how much one thinks they can negotiate, they will never get a full/part time seasonal job in retail for more than $11/hr....companies won't pay it and can find cheaper labor in summer students.

[golfinseb]

I suppose for seasonal work that is acceptable. When is the last time you worked for minimum wage? Whats the bottom line than you can live what you feel is an acceptable standard of living?

I'm not comparing this work to office work, I am stating that regardless of the work being done the wages will always fall in line with the general industry standards. I don't think I conveyed that clearly.

When you are skilled you can negotiate a better salary/wage. If you are skilled you can say no and get a better job, why work to remain at the poverty line? If you are not skilled than I suggest you find a way to become skilled in a hurry or get used to living a reduced quality of living. What will social assitance pay someone in a year (I don't know personally as I have never collected either UI or social assitance).

I hope that as a GM you would make $60k/yr or the job would not be worth it IMO. I'm just hoping to steer those looking for work towards a more financially rewarding goal. It's clear to me that people are always quick to tell you what you can't do, and reluctant to admit what can be accomplished when you put your mind to it.

[Dan Twomey]

Seb, re-read my post please.

I said $9-$11/HR for Full Time/Part-Time seasonal employees.

Don't forget my friend, you cannot compare retail jobs to an office environment and in my books, that hourly wage is VERY competitve given the minimum wage in Canada right now is $8.50/hr

I don't care how much one thinks they can negotiate, they will never get a full/part time seasonal job in retail for more than $11/hr....companies won't pay it and can find cheaper labor in summer students.

If GT or any other corporation wants to attract the best people possible wouldn't it be in their best interest to publicize their compensation packages?

OR

Would anyone object to making NHL player salaries secret next year? After all it's none of your business what they make. Correct?

Regards,
Dan

[rgk5]

Sorry, there is no R5XD. There is an R5XL that is less than one year old.

[Leftygolfer30]

If GT or any other corporation wants to attract the best people possible wouldn't it be in their best interest to publicize their compensation packages?

OR

Would anyone object to making NHL player salaries secret next year? After all it's none of your business what they make. Correct?

Regards,
Dan

What on earth does working at Golftown and playing in the NHL have in common??? That has to be one of the most senseless comparison's I've ever heard.

[racmbs]

If GT or any other corporation wants to attract the best people possible wouldn't it be in their best interest to publicize their compensation packages?

OR

Would anyone object to making NHL player salaries secret next year? After all it's none of your business what they make. Correct?

Regards,
Dan

Are you freakin' kidding me?

The point of companies trying to hire the best people possible, isn't acheived by publicizing the salaries offered nor is it achieved by publicizing it's compensation packages.

Not sure why world you are living in, but it's certainly not a realistic one.

[golfinseb]

not to mention that in pro sports the salaries are used as advertising, the allure just wouldn't be there is no one knew what pro athletes made to play a game.

[Dan Twomey]

Are you freakin' kidding me?

The point of companies trying to hire the best people possible, isn't acheived by publicizing the salaries offered nor is it achieved by publicizing it's compensation packages.

Not sure why world you are living in, but it's certainly not a realistic one.

How is it achieved?

I have a friend who is a GM and is very open and honest about the politics of salary confidentiality. There is a great differential in the salaries of the many managers he oversees. Some of the lower salary ones far outperform the higher ones. Yes, they receive a bonus but their base is still lower. He openly admits that confidentiality conceals a very flawed system, and has for most companies he's work for. If salaries were made public he's aware of the total chaos it would cause with people immediately questioning why their exceptional performance was compensated for less than their lesser performing peers.

Regards,
Dan

[westbeach]

Put it this way....if you're a "golf nut", when you factor in the enjoyment of being around the golf environment and not to mention the money a person would save with "employee" purchases, you're salary factor would surely go up.

[MP33]

How is it achieved?

I have a friend who is a GM and is very open and honest about the politics of salary confidentiality. There is a great differential in the salaries of the many managers he oversees. Some of the lower salary ones far outperform the higher ones. Yes, they receive a bonus but their base is still lower. He openly admits that confidentiality conceals a very flawed system, and has for most companies he's work for. If salaries were made public he's aware of the total chaos it would cause with people immediately questioning why their exceptional performance was compensated for less than their lesser performing peers.

Regards,
Dan

How do companies hire the best people? By providing them great opportunities to gain new experiences and to further grow as professionals to advance their careers. Compensation is important but it's not all people are looking for.

I manage a marketing department for a large corporation and I am actively involved in the recruitment of undergrad and MBA graduates. I can assure you that a candidate would not get very far in my interview if all they were interested in was $$. I often ask the question "Why do you want to work for our company?" and the typical responses (we have a tough screening process and typically interview candidates 90 percentile and up based on many screening factors) I get include:

1) to be given opportunities to work abroad
2) to be given opportunities to manage and coach people
3) to be given a chance to manage a P/L
4) to gain direct experience in a certain business disciplines such as marketing, finance, Supply chain.

Great candidates often show there ambition to learn and gain experiences with answers like the above. In my opinion, the only way to hire these great candidates is to provide them with these opportunities. $ is important but is not as big a factor as one may think.

[Dan Twomey]

On a continuing note. The salaries where I currently work are offered openly and are considered public knowledge. You'd probably be shocked and appalled to find it doesn't cause any problems. Just recently we hired some exceptional people from within our industry. When they settled in and discovered that our open and honest and ego free work environment was for real they remarked that it was this openess and honesty that attracted them. It wasn't the salary because we are not the highest paying in the industry. When I listen to friends and their spouses about the BS, asskissing, and office politics in your 'real world' I'm glad I don't work there. Instead I work for a globally competitive company that has a minimum of the politics some consider 'the real world'.

This topic of salary confidentiality touched a nerve with me because I socalize with two CFO's. They come over to my place have a few drinks and chuckle like crazy. They elude to that if they didn't have salary confidentiality there would be an all out riot. Some people are blissfully getting shafted and have no idea. It's readily apparent to me who does and doesn't benefit from this.

Regards,
Dan

[golfinseb]

The truth is everyone looking for experience, a chance to manage, travel, etc... is looking for more money. Ultimately that money is down the road and they feel that the experience, knowledge, leadership etc will get them there.

The moral of the story, get as much as you can when you start and don't back off once you are working. The squeeky wheel gets the grease is an unfortunate reality. That being said, if you can't do your job properly, can't get things done on time, can't get to work on time.... shut your mouth and pray you keep your job.

Ignore the politics at work and focus on doing your job to the fullest of your ability. Climbing the ladder takes time and effort, don't stop and you'll continue to be rewarded, if the company you work for stops rewarding you and your are still climbing, move on.

So if you want to work at GT go ahead and do so, just make sure to learn as much as you can and do the best job you can.

[ondadl]

Sorry, there is no R5XD. There is an R5XL that is less than one year old.

You're saying these came out spring 2006? I really don't think that's right, but that is the same thing they told me. Can you find out for sure, because I'm pretty sure I demoed them in August of 2005 and they were already on sale at that time. Is there another r5 iron set? I know it definitely wasn't the 360s.

[Dan Twomey]

not to mention that in pro sports the salaries are used as advertising, the allure just wouldn't be there is no one knew what pro athletes made to play a game.

What on earth does working at Golftown and playing in the NHL have in common??? That has to be one of the most senseless comparison's I've ever heard.

Finally somebody with alittle bit on the ball. Lack of salary confidentiality exists in Pro Sports because it's good for profits. When salary confidentiality exists. It exists because it's good for the bottom line. Can you connect the dots yet?

Regards,
Dan

[simar]

someone please lock this topic up before more silly things get said...

Or let me know and I'll get the popcorn ready if that isnt going to happen.

[slicendice]

I agree, this is getting heated, but I don't understand what the big deal is about giving a very general range as racmbs has done. it's all you need to know if you're considering moving into that field.

If you love golf enough and you're willing to work retail (not my cup of Tea) then why not work there!?! - if I had sales experience and wanted to move into a retail environment, GT would be my first choice - why not do something you love? few of us get that opportunity!

[Bellyhungry]

Side track a little...

Throughout the years, I met a lot of people on the golf course who said they got their shiny new club(s) at a discount because their 'buddies' worked at GT.

A few months or two later, when I wanted to inquire about getting a discount from these 'buddies', their typical responses are 'Oh, he does not work there anymore'. A few months later, they will have 'a new buddy' from a different store selling them discounted new clubs.

Given the frequency of this happening to me, I am probably not alone....

[racmbs]

someone please lock this topic up before more silly things get said...

Or let me know and I'll get the popcorn ready if that isnt going to happen.

Oh it won't Simar, I'm done with this issue.

I've said what I've had to say, let him debate it with himself.

[rgk5]

I'm out as well.

[rgk5]

I called and checked this morning. The R5XL iron set came out late, last Spring.

[hogannut]

If GT or any other corporation wants to attract the best people possible wouldn't it be in their best interest to publicize their compensation packages?

OR

Would anyone object to making NHL player salaries secret next year? After all it's none of your business what they make. Correct?

Regards,
Dan

You are correct about compensation. Bottom line...you get what you pay for. Retail = low hourly pay, and anyone going into retail should already know this. The people who do the speicalized work like teaching, club repair etc should be paid according the market value of their vocation. If they are not GT will not be well represented in those aspects of the business. That is a business decision that would be made at GT's head office.

Your example of NHL players salaries is not a fair example to use, because ticket prices that the public pays are used to pay the salaries. IT's like public servants....their salaries are public knowledge, because the money that they are paid comes from the public through taxes. GT is a private business and therefore they are well within their rights legally and morally to keep the salaries private.

What do you do for a living, and how much do you make?

[Big Shooter]

What do you do for a living, and how much do you make?

THAT wasn't the question/topic!!! :mad:

[slicendice]

THAT wasn't the question/topic!!! :mad:

something I don't love, for not enough money.

like most other people who live in the real world...

[Dan Twomey]

You are correct about compensation. Bottom line...you get what you pay for. Retail = low hourly pay, and anyone going into retail should already know this. The people who do the speicalized work like teaching, club repair etc should be paid according the market value of their vocation. If they are not GT will not be well represented in those aspects of the business. That is a business decision that would be made at GT's head office.

Your example of NHL players salaries is not a fair example to use, because ticket prices that the public pays are used to pay the salaries. IT's like public servants....their salaries are public knowledge, because the money that they are paid comes from the public through taxes. GT is a private business and therefore they are well within their rights legally and morally to keep the salaries private.

What do you do for a living, and how much do you make?

I work for a private company and if you worked with me you'd know what I make and at least one of us wouldn't have an issue with that.

Lack of salary confidentiality exists ........'when'....... it's good for profits. When salary confidentiality exists. It exists because it's good for the bottom line. Can you connect the dots yet?

Did you not get it?

Another example. All wrongful dismissal settlements contain a non-disclosure clause for the plantiff to agree to. Is this the company exercising is legal and moral right to privacy? Or, does your boss not want you to know that he just spent $350k on his ego last month the next time you go looking for a 5% raise.

For those of you that spend their days performing political fellatio. If you come up for air once in awhile you'd be alittle less naive!

Regards,
Dan

[ondadl]

I called and checked this morning. The R5XL iron set came out late, last Spring.

Strange, but it doesn't surprise me that I'm still out of my mind.:D Thanks for the info.