Isabelle Beisiegel ranked 79th on the LPGA Tour is entering Qualifying School for 2 PGA events early next season. She's paid her entry fee. What do you think of her move? Is it just a publicity stunt or is she for real? She claims to have the game required to play a PGA event, though her stats on the LPGA tour don't really reflect that. Annika Sorenstan and Michelle Wei are just two examples of this. Question is, should women be allowed to play on PGA events?
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Should women be allowed to play on the PGA Tour?
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Churchill: And you, madam, are ugly. But in the morning, I shall be sober."
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In my opinion for this particular case I think she should be allowed to enter Q-school. She is trying out like all the others to win a spot. Good for her if she does, though I don't think she will. As long as women have to qualify and earn their spots on tour, I dont find a problem. Its when you see women play on men's events cause of sponsor exemptions that I find it unfair. It would be unique to see one day for example: Michelle Wei on a Sunday final pairing with Vijay Singh or something."Bessie Braddock: Sir, you are drunk.
Churchill: And you, madam, are ugly. But in the morning, I shall be sober."
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Originally posted by Focker SinghIn my opinion for this particular case I think she should be allowed to enter Q-school. She is trying out like all the others to win a spot. Good for her if she does, though I don't think she will. As long as women have to qualify and earn their spots on tour, I dont find a problem. Its when you see women play on men's events cause of sponsor exemptions that I find it unfair. It would be unique to see one day for example: Michelle Wei on a Sunday final pairing with Vijay Singh or something.
while it could be a debated issue, using a sponsor's exemption to let a female play in the tournament is totally ok w/me.....the sponsor wants to attract the biggest audience possible, I mean, they are paying for the tournament, so why the heck not. If you're saying it's not fair and takes away from other players who could be playing, well sponsors always let local club pros, amateurs or Canadians in the recent Bell Canadian Open for example play in their tournament, and they didn't qualify for the tournament either......so what's the diff if it's a female?Feherty: " 270 to carry the water, you might want to lay up SnowFlake "
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Originally posted by Ego WoodsIf you're saying it's not fair and takes away from other players who could be playing, well sponsors always let local club pros, amateurs or Canadians in the recent Bell Canadian Open for example play in their tournament, and they didn't qualify for the tournament either......so what's the diff if it's a female?
Lets look at it from the opposite side. If a man is not good enough to earn a PGA card, can he qualify to play in the LPGA. His chances of winning more prize money on the LPGA is probably greater than the PGA.
I'm just playing devil's advocate. I would love to see a Wei vs Tiger final on a Sunday!"Bessie Braddock: Sir, you are drunk.
Churchill: And you, madam, are ugly. But in the morning, I shall be sober."
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I am not quite sure if your argument is about women playing in the PGA or anyone who doesn't go through proper qualifications to play in the PGA tournaments.
Originally posted by Focker SinghThe club pro's are technically not in the Thurs-Sun draw. They are allowed to play in the Mon-Wed practice sessions and Pro-Am competition. Amateur's are not allowed to win any prize money. Therefore, even if an amateur wins, its just for glory. Like I said, if they qualify and make it, I welcome them to play.
How about local pros who get sponsor's exemptions to play? Like I said in my earlier example, inviting Canadians to play in the Bell Canadian. Like David Morland IV! He got a sponsor exemption and didn't go through any qualifications. Would you have a problem with him then?
Originally posted by Focker SinghLets look at it from the opposite side. If a man is not good enough to earn a PGA card, can he qualify to play in the LPGA. His chances of winning more prize money on the LPGA is probably greater than the PGA.
I'm just playing devil's advocate. I would love to see a Wei vs Tiger final on a Sunday!
Of other note, I also see that it's the second time you mis-spelled Michelle WIE's last name, so thought I should just correct you.
HAPPY GOLFING!Feherty: " 270 to carry the water, you might want to lay up SnowFlake "
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i think that a sponsor can give exemption to whoever they want, they are paying big bucks so if the sponsor wants to give the exemption to some board of directors teenage son or daughter they can do whatever they want!
and since PGA does not refer to gender, women can try out anytime they want, if they can get through Q-school, good for them and good luck to them in the tournaments!
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i have to add that i think she is wasting her money ... i think i read somewhere it's $4500? well unless she lands a big sponsor because of this stunt then she is losing $4500 heh...i mean if she is looking for tougher competition, she already has some, 78 players are ahead of her in the LPGA and she has missed a few cuts recently on the LPGA tour so I don't know who she thinks she is to try out for Q school...it's a free world she could if she wants though...
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If a woman qualifies for a PGA tournament then it sounds like everyone agrees she should be allowed to play.
If a sponsor gives an exemption, and since they are forking out the dough, they should have the right to do that too. However, if they want their tournament to be respected, they should not compromise the integrity of their competition by letting people in who can't qualify just for publicity.
If publicity helps sell their product and that's their main goal, then they wouldn't care about their tournament not being as well respected as one that strictly lets the best of the best play.
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Originally posted by Moki have to add that i think she is wasting her money ... i think i read somewhere it's $4500? well unless she lands a big sponsor because of this stunt then she is losing $4500 heh...i mean if she is looking for tougher competition, she already has some, 78 players are ahead of her in the LPGA and she has missed a few cuts recently on the LPGA tour so I don't know who she thinks she is to try out for Q school...it's a free world she could if she wants though...
She only made $121K this season on the LPGA, so $4500 is quite a big hit for her.....Feherty: " 270 to carry the water, you might want to lay up SnowFlake "
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Originally posted by Focker SinghIsabelle Beisiegel ranked 79th on the LPGA Tour is entering Qualifying School for 2 PGA events early next season. She's paid her entry fee. What do you think of her move? Is it just a publicity stunt or is she for real? She claims to have the game required to play a PGA event, though her stats on the LPGA tour don't really reflect that. Annika Sorenstan and Michelle Wei are just two examples of this. Question is, should women be allowed to play on PGA events?You may contact me with general questions about the forum.
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maybe women sports should be cancelled altogether and just merge womens and mens athetlics...that way no more complaints and women get equal right! haha j/k
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No PGA tour card for Beisiegel. Not even close. It's kinda stupid to hear her talk of PGA courses being more wide open and more forgiving than LPGA courses. She still shows the same bravado feeling she could have gotten so many more birdies (she only had 2) when she probably had a more realistic chance of getting more bogeys and double bogeys....
Here's the article.Feherty: " 270 to carry the water, you might want to lay up SnowFlake "
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this woman just makes me laugh she's a joke. she should really step into reality. it took her 3 tries for the LPGA and she thinks she can get a PGA card...lol...
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She was terrible...not even close...nice try chickie, better luck next year...pure publicity stunt...what sucks more is she's Canadian!!"Bessie Braddock: Sir, you are drunk.
Churchill: And you, madam, are ugly. But in the morning, I shall be sober."
Winston Churchill
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