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Snipes5150
May 19, 2007, 11:24 PM
This is for any of the guys here who use, or have used Vokey spin milled wedges. I was playing with a friend of mine this past week who also uses them, and we both mentioned that we realized something about them...Did you guys notice that in your first 5-8 rounds with them, the ball seemed to have so much juice on it, you could spin the ball backwards on flop shots, half swings, even some pitch shots? But now that you've had them for 10-20 rounds, they don't do it anymore? Obviously they are still great wedges, and provide more than enough spin (the grooves are massive...unforunately they tear golf balls to shreds (but very worth it)) but I was just wondering if anyone noticed that little honeymoon period during your first few rounds with them, and then the spin sort of reduced gradually into the way they are now. I bought mine in January-February, in the off-season, and went to Florida for a week over March-break, which was my first time using them-on course. Played 8 rounds in 6 days, and the spin I was getting off those things was just unreal. Now playing back home it's not quite the same. I'm not saying I'm unsatisfied at ALL...I don't think I could play any other wedge other than Titleist.
Big Shooter
May 20, 2007, 01:09 AM
This is for any of the guys here who use, or have used Vokey spin milled wedges. I was playing with a friend of mine this past week who also uses them, and we both mentioned that we realized something about them...Did you guys notice that in your first 5-8 rounds with them, the ball seemed to have so much juice on it, you could spin the ball backwards on flop shots, half swings, even some pitch shots? But now that you've had them for 10-20 rounds, they don't do it anymore? Obviously they are still great wedges, and provide more than enough spin (the grooves are massive...unforunately they tear golf balls to shreds (but very worth it)) but I was just wondering if anyone noticed that little honeymoon period during your first few rounds with them, and then the spin sort of reduced gradually into the way they are now. I bought mine in January-February, in the off-season, and went to Florida for a week over March-break, which was my first time using them-on course. Played 8 rounds in 6 days, and the spin I was getting off those things was just unreal. Now playing back home it's not quite the same. I'm not saying I'm unsatisfied at ALL...I don't think I could play any other wedge other than Titleist.
Yup, I agree with you. I loved it for first 5-10 rounds, then traded it with a buddy for his Cleveland, which is much more effective for me. I did buy a Cally MD, just to get the same effect, but I don't find it spins the way a BRAND NEW Titty SM does!? Any other suggestions (brands) for good spin-action?
Grass Roots Tour
May 20, 2007, 01:24 AM
It might be that the course conditions were much more conducive to spin at the course you played in Florida than the wedges losing their spin capabilities.
I played Doon Valley today and I had never previously backed up a wedge before at that course. Today I backed up a few more than 10 feet from the pitch mark. The ball had obviously bounced forward before spinning back so in all the ball likely backed up 15 feet.
My wedges were new over the winter as well. I've only played twice but I've been to the range a lot and I always start practice sessions with the wedges.
Jake_Golf
May 20, 2007, 01:37 AM
My golf teacher was telling me about his while practicing in the bunker... he said he loved it.
swingpure
May 20, 2007, 01:56 AM
I just bought my first Vokey yesterday. A 56 oil can finished spin milled. I have a 52 on order.
I'm still on the honeymoon period. I can get check ups, but no spin backs yet.
I played 45 holes with it in the two days plus practiced hitting 3 buckets of balls. Much of the oil can finish is gone after 2 days.
So far I find it a great wedge.
I'm going to get a bounce lesson from my instructor next week to help better understand how to use the bounce in the club.
Snipes5150
May 20, 2007, 11:49 AM
You'll enjoy those clubs for sure - I've got the Oil Can finish on my gap wedge, and it's worn off on the sole and part of the bottom of the club, and it looks awesome. It's sort of my go-to club from 120 - 115, as well as it being my oldest club in the bag :p. It's not a spin milled version though...which leads to my next question; how did you get a spin-milled version of the 52? They don't offer the spin-milled in anything lower than 54, I guess unless you had a 54 bent 2 degrees strong. Or it's the 200 series and you just didn't mention it - just wondering. Anyway, enjoy your new wedges, I'm sure you will.
Grass Roots Tour
May 20, 2007, 02:01 PM
You cant get SM with less than 54*.
Mine are 58* and 54* bent to 57* and 53*.
Snipes5150
May 20, 2007, 04:33 PM
Is there any performance down-side to bending the loft of wedges strong? I've heard stories from people who had their wedges bent stronger and afterwards they looked strange at address, and the guy couldn't play with them anymore. Do you notice this? or does it not affect you at all?
swingpure
May 20, 2007, 11:12 PM
You'll enjoy those clubs for sure - I've got the Oil Can finish on my gap wedge, and it's worn off on the sole and part of the bottom of the club, and it looks awesome. It's sort of my go-to club from 120 - 115, as well as it being my oldest club in the bag :p. It's not a spin milled version though...which leads to my next question; how did you get a spin-milled version of the 52? They don't offer the spin-milled in anything lower than 54, I guess unless you had a 54 bent 2 degrees strong. Or it's the 200 series and you just didn't mention it - just wondering. Anyway, enjoy your new wedges, I'm sure you will.
Grumble, grumble, I guess that it why they didn't have one in the pro shop and they didn't realize (like me) that it did not come in a 52. I guess it will be a 200 series. They were going to order it for me on Tuesday.
I had a Taylormade RAC OS lob wedge 60 degrees, sand wedge 55 degrees, Attack wedge 50 degrees and a pitching wedge 45 degrees. I wanted a better wedge and wanted to reduce the number of wedges to 3.
Now that the 52 won't be a spin milled, I wonder if I should go for the 50 degree 200 series wedge. That would give me a 56, a 50 and a 45 degree wedge.
Do you think that would be better than a 56, a 52 and a 45???
Is the spin milled much better than the 200 series? I wonder why they don't make the lower lofted wedges in the spin milled style?
Section ThirtyOne
May 20, 2007, 11:27 PM
I've noticed this with my Callaway X-Tour wedges... at the beginning I could spin them like whoa, but now they are very average.
I'll be picking up some Cleveland CG12 with Zip Grooves to replace them soon enough. :help:
Grass Roots Tour
May 21, 2007, 12:09 AM
Do you think that would be better than a 56, a 52 and a 45???
Is the spin milled much better than the 200 series? I wonder why they don't make the lower lofted wedges in the spin milled style?
Assuming your PW is 47 or 48* you may want a gap wedge 1 club / 4* weaker than your PW which would be 52*. And one club weaker, a 56* SW.
Im assuming also that Titleist doesnt make a Spin Milled 52* because players might full swing that club producing soo much spin it wont stay on the green. This obviously depends A LOT on which course you're playing.
swingpure
May 21, 2007, 01:02 AM
My PW is a 45 degree. Excessive spin back is not a problem for me or from the usual courses I play:) .
I'm thinking that the 50* might be the better choice to go with the 45 and the 56.
The question I guess is the 200 series Vokey a good choice for the 50? Obviously the spin milled Vokey is highly rated and liked. I haven't heard much about the 200 series Vokey.
Carlton
May 21, 2007, 01:11 AM
I believe that Titleist wedges only go as strong as 52°.
swingpure
May 21, 2007, 01:32 AM
The 200 series Vokey has a 48* and a 50* plus others. http://www.titleist.com/golfclubs/wedges/vokey200series.asp
I have no experience with them though.
Snipes5150
May 21, 2007, 11:54 AM
As stated above - my gap wedge is a Vokey 200 series in the oil can finish. It's a great wedge, and spin is not an issue - it provides lots of it. I also like the face profile and the way it sets up for a lower lofted wedge. Feels good throughout the whole swing, and the results are usually very good with it
swingpure
May 21, 2007, 07:08 PM
As stated above - my gap wedge is a Vokey 200 series in the oil can finish. It's a great wedge, and spin is not an issue - it provides lots of it. I also like the face profile and the way it sets up for a lower lofted wedge. Feels good throughout the whole swing, and the results are usually very good with it
Thanks, I have ordered the Vokey 200 series 50* wedge in the oil can finish.
I'm liking the 56 spin milled. Chipped in for birdie today with it and had another hit the pin and just lip out. I had a couple of par saves as well due to good chips.
Snipes5150
May 21, 2007, 08:05 PM
Thanks, I have ordered the Vokey 200 series 50* wedge in the oil can finish.
I'm liking the 56 spin milled. Chipped in for birdie today with it and had another hit the pin and just lip out. I had a couple of par saves as well due to good chips.
Good choice. I'm sure you'll like it just as much as I do. The other great thing with Vokey wedges is that they usually have 2 or 3 bounce configurations for each loft. For example, I got my 56 with 10 degrees bounce, rather than 14, and my 60 in 8 degrees bounce instead of 4 or 6. This makes the 56 versatile and handy in dry conditions, and the 60 very useful in wet conditions. You'll find if you pick the right bounce combinations throughout your set of wedges, they'll be more useful than if you just pick blindly
ryguy
May 21, 2007, 08:43 PM
i did notice it a bit at the beginnin I guess but i still love the wedges
swingpure
May 21, 2007, 10:27 PM
Good choice. I'm sure you'll like it just as much as I do. The other great thing with Vokey wedges is that they usually have 2 or 3 bounce configurations for each loft. For example, I got my 56 with 10 degrees bounce, rather than 14, and my 60 in 8 degrees bounce instead of 4 or 6. This makes the 56 versatile and handy in dry conditions, and the 60 very useful in wet conditions. You'll find if you pick the right bounce combinations throughout your set of wedges, they'll be more useful than if you just pick blindly
The assistant pro/instructor that is helping me, helped me chose the bounce for me. I also have 10 degrees of bounce on my 56 and I am getting 8 degrees of bounce on the 50. I use the 56 in the sand, chipping around the green and for flop shots.
I have a lesson with him on Wednesday, where he is going to teach me to better understand bounce and how to take advantage of it.
The Troll
May 21, 2007, 10:31 PM
I finally "broke in" my Wishon wedges today. They are soooo butter smooth in the bunker, great spin and it was really easy to nip the ball off of tight lies.
Now I have to find a 52 degree in a hurry. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Bellyhungry
May 22, 2007, 09:28 AM
I finally "broke in" my Wishon wedges today. They are soooo butter smooth in the bunker, great spin and it was really easy to nip the ball off of tight lies.
Now I have to find a 52 degree in a hurry. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Pardon me for sounding ignorant, when you hit a bunker shot, you are supposed to hit the sand behind the ball rather than the ball itself. How did you manage to feel the 'butterly smoothness' of the wedge?
The Troll
May 22, 2007, 04:03 PM
How did you manage to feel the 'butterly smoothness' of the wedge?
Slid thru the sand like a hot knife thru butta. :D
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