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Nocturnal
Jun 4, 2005, 06:36 PM
It turns out I'm a one plane swinger. Since I've concentrated on swinging on plane throughout I've noticed a real difference in my consistency and it 'feels' right to me. Before I was using ideas from both types of swings and messing myself up!

http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/

Grass Roots Tour
Jun 4, 2005, 08:49 PM
I also recently read these ideas. I too am a one planer. I too was using ideas from both meothods. I think if I just swing smoothly (and try not to kill it) with the one plane meothod and all the ideas that go with it, success is just around the corner.

I do find that occassionally I get playing with bombers and it makes me start to swing for the fence. Followed quickly by spraying the ball to every direction leaving me wondering where to aim.
I can't understand why I can't resist the temptation to smash it.

AnnikaFan
Jun 4, 2005, 09:07 PM
havn't had the chance to read it all...just glanced at it for a while...seems like a pretty good site...i'm gonna bookmark it for future reference. Thanks!

Nocturnal
Jun 4, 2005, 09:29 PM
Here's more info on the differences between the two types of swings.

http://golfdigest.com/instruction/index.ssf?/instruction/gd200505swingplane1.html

Shadow
Jun 11, 2005, 07:19 PM
For those who player poker you know that the odds of drawing an inside straight versus one open at both ends, are quite high. Golfers who have a one plane swing are usually very consistent ball strikers, something that most of us want to be and with that kind of swing, have a higher probability of finding the fairway or the green. A golfer with a two plane swing can play very well but he/she has to have a few compensations in the downswing to hit the ball properly and without superior timing/coordination, is less consistent.

Both kinds of swings require to the club to be placed on the "on plane" position at the start of the downswing, however, because the double plane golfer's arms are well above the shoulder plane at the top, he has to have excessive lower body motion as he starts down, and frequently "block" with his arms, to hit the ball OK. At the Tour level, we are watching double plane swinger Tiger Woods, consistently struggling with his swing, particularly with his driver. His arms are too high, his lower body races ahead of his upper, the club gets "stuck" (a stupid term) and finding the fairway is a challenge for him. Contrast this with VJ's single plane swing, where the difference between his top of the backswing position and being on plane coming down is so small, that he gets there more consistently.

We mortals would be better ball strikers if we achieved the single plane position at the top. As most of us have an outside move starting down, the higher the hands are at the top of the backswing, the easier it is for the shoulders to loop us outside. Get the arm plane flatter, get the clubshaft and clubhead more behind your bum coming down, so that the clubhead is coming into the ball from the inside, and the better you will hit it. People who suggest that your clubhead is coming into the ball too much from the inside are just preventing you from becoming a better golfer. Next time you go to the range, swing too much from the inside and see what happens. You are likely to hit the ball as pure as you ever have.

tjhayko
Jun 11, 2005, 08:21 PM
I do find that occassionally I get playing with bombers and it makes me start to swing for the fence. Followed quickly by spraying the ball to every direction leaving me wondering where to aim.
I can't understand why I can't resist the temptation to smash it.

I'm completely convinced that for a amateur, hitting stupid shots is a part of the game. If we played only high percentage shots, we all probably score quite a bit better. Of course, the game wouldn't have the same highs and lows.

laxgolf
Jun 13, 2005, 08:17 AM
Just remember to have the lie angle of your clubs checked if you switch to a one plane swing. You'll likely have to go to a flatter lie.

Grass Roots Tour
Jun 13, 2005, 03:38 PM
Just remember to have the lie angle of your clubs checked if you switch to a one plane swing. You'll likely have to go to a flatter lie.

Mine are 2* flat and I was checked on a lie board.

thecoach
Jun 13, 2005, 05:05 PM
For those who player poker you know that the odds of drawing an inside straight versus one open at both ends, are quite high. Golfers who have a one plane swing are usually very consistent ball strikers, something that most of us want to be and with that kind of swing, have a higher probability of finding the fairway or the green. A golfer with a two plane swing can play very well but he/she has to have a few compensations in the downswing to hit the ball properly and without superior timing/coordination, is less consistent.

Both kinds of swings require to the club to be placed on the "on plane" position at the start of the downswing, however, because the double plane golfer's arms are well above the shoulder plane at the top, he has to have excessive lower body motion as he starts down, and frequently "block" with his arms, to hit the ball OK. At the Tour level, we are watching double plane swinger Tiger Woods, consistently struggling with his swing, particularly with his driver. His arms are too high, his lower body races ahead of his upper, the club gets "stuck" (a stupid term) and finding the fairway is a challenge for him. Contrast this with VJ's single plane swing, where the difference between his top of the backswing position and being on plane coming down is so small, that he gets there more consistently.

We mortals would be better ball strikers if we achieved the single plane position at the top. As most of us have an outside move starting down, the higher the hands are at the top of the backswing, the easier it is for the shoulders to loop us outside. Get the arm plane flatter, get the clubshaft and clubhead more behind your bum coming down, so that the clubhead is coming into the ball from the inside, and the better you will hit it. People who suggest that your clubhead is coming into the ball too much from the inside are just preventing you from becoming a better golfer. Next time you go to the range, swing too much from the inside and see what happens. You are likely to hit the ball as pure as you ever have.
Cool!
My coach just told me I have a 1 plane swing with a few 2 plane glitches ... the first thing we've been working on is moving my hands from beside my ear (at the top) to over top of my shoulder - this makes the club "lighter" and the swing is much smoother - I could always get the club back on plane due to good athletic coordination, but the 1 plane swing is so much smoother and easier - and with the years passing by :eek: I think the 1 planer is the best way to go - hey, less (moving parts) is more (distance and accuaracy) ...

Focker Singh
Jun 14, 2005, 05:24 PM
I'm a One Plane Swinger too. Read this in Golf Digest and at the time I was taking a 3 lesson package at Golf Town. Turns out the pro there was converting me to a Two Plane Swinger. I couldn't hit the ball and gave up and went back to my old swing. Go figure! Why didn't he realize I was doing fine with a One Plane Swing?