Fast Play Problem!

[Golftime]

I went out as a single today and got matched with a pair in a car plus another single in a cart. Before we have even teed off the pair were complaining about the group in front being slow. It turned out to be a very trying day. The pair constantly raced ahead in the cart. Thankfully they didn't hit it very far so they had to hit two shots to get to the others drives. However I was rushed all day. One one par 4 I had trouble finding my ball in the rough, (about 4 feet of the fairway). I walked past it and had to backtrack a bit. When I got ready to hit to the green I see the pair's cart right in front of the green about 160 yards ahead of me. I had to wait for them to clear out. By the time I hit and walked to the green they had putted out and were headed off to the next tee. On the next tee we had to wait for the group ahead anyway.
Not once did they help look for anyone else's ball.
On the 18th one of them hit into the green from 130 yards while the group ahead was still there. Luckily he hit it into the woods and no one was hurt.
In the end after listening to countless complaints about slow play our round was completed in under 4 hours.
On the greens one of them played ready golf to the nth degree. If he was on the green then he putted, usually with the flag in. The rest of us had to wait until he was done. In forty years I've never seen anything like it.
To top it off he was playing with 22 clubs in his bag!
I am all in favor of fast play but not at the total expense of etiquette.
There I am done venting.

[goshawk]

That sounds like you would have had a more relaxing day on the range! What a group of a$$es. Either someone who was never taught proper etiquette, or someone who just didn't give a damn about anyone else but themselves.
I think on that hole where they putted out and left you standing, I would have just let them go ahead and play as a 2some. If a mashall had dropped by to complain that we broke up the 4some, let him talk to the group as to why they just left us behind.

[nearace]

I went out as a single today and got matched with a pair in a car plus another single in a cart. Before we have even teed off the pair were complaining about the group in front being slow. It turned out to be a very trying day. The pair constantly raced ahead in the cart. Thankfully they didn't hit it very far so they had to hit two shots to get to the others drives. However I was rushed all day. One one par 4 I had trouble finding my ball in the rough, (about 4 feet of the fairway). I walked past it and had to backtrack a bit. When I got ready to hit to the green I see the pair's cart right in front of the green about 160 yards ahead of me. I had to wait for them to clear out. By the time I hit and walked to the green they had putted out and were headed off to the next tee. On the next tee we had to wait for the group ahead anyway.
Not once did they help look for anyone else's ball.
On the 18th one of them hit into the green from 130 yards while the group ahead was still there. Luckily he hit it into the woods and no one was hurt.
In the end after listening to countless complaints about slow play our round was completed in under 4 hours.
On the greens one of them played ready golf to the nth degree. If he was on the green then he putted, usually with the flag in. The rest of us had to wait until he was done. In forty years I've never seen anything like it.
To top it off he was playing with 22 clubs in his bag!
I am all in favor of fast play but not at the total expense of etiquette.
There I am done venting.does not sound like a good day at all, how old were the offenders?you should of lagged behind and they would of kept going,where did you play?did the starter team you up or was it voulintary?sorry for all the questions.

[Golftime]

does not sound like a good day at all, how old were the offenders?you should of lagged behind and they would of kept going,where did you play?did the starter team you up or was it voulintary?sorry for all the questions.
One was sixty five or so and the other was late 30s. The starter joined us up. We played at Saw Whet but I don't think that that had anything to do with it. Strangely enough in some ways they were pleasant enough to talk to but just too single minded in their pursuit of fast play. If it wasn't a very pleasant Sunday afternoon on a long weekend I would have been very happy to play in three and a half hours but when the course is almost full to the max there is no place to go it all seemed pointless.

[nearace]

One was sixty five or so and the other was late 30s. The starter joined us up. We played at Saw Whet but I don't think that that had anything to do with it. Strangely enough in some ways they were pleasant enough to talk to but just too single minded in their pursuit of fast play. If it wasn't a very pleasant Sunday afternoon on a long weekend I would have been very happy to play in three and a half hours but when the course is almost full to the max there is no place to go it all seemed pointless.at parkview today ,6:50 am had a line up on the upper course,blew my mind

[Anthony]

That is pathetic.... I like talking to others, helping to find balls and having an enjoyable round. Yes I want it to be sub 4 hours and to play ready golf, that is all. Take 5 tee shots too if you want or play a shot over, try a differnt chip.... Just don't be slow....

[bigbertha]

One was sixty five or so and the other was late 30s. The starter joined us up. We played at Saw Whet but I don't think that that had anything to do with it. Strangely enough in some ways they were pleasant enough to talk to but just too single minded in their pursuit of fast play. If it wasn't a very pleasant Sunday afternoon on a long weekend I would have been very happy to play in three and a half hours but when the course is almost full to the max there is no place to go it all seemed pointless.
I was playing at Diamondback one time with 2 members. Similar problem like what you described. They can't hit it particular long but they have no idea I could hit them on some shots since they keep walking after they hit. One time I was about 30 yards left of the green trying to pitch up. This guy was standing by the flag stick. I was like do I hit it close but risk hitting him or do I aim a bit right and have a 15 foot putt. I chose the latter but what a shame. You know sometimes I find people who are regular at a course are just their to do their thing. They have no idea of what else is happening. All they want is get their daily round in.:mad:

[TourIQ]

This guy was standing by the flag stick. I was like do I hit it close but risk hitting him or do I aim a bit right and have a 15 foot putt. I chose the latter but what a shame.I would of said 'heads up' and hit right at the pin.

[goshawk]

I was playing at Diamondback one time with 2 members. Similar problem like what you described. They can't hit it particular long but they have no idea I could hit them on some shots since they keep walking after they hit. One time I was about 30 yards left of the green trying to pitch up. This guy was standing by the flag stick. I was like do I hit it close but risk hitting him or do I aim a bit right and have a 15 foot putt. I chose the latter but what a shame. You know sometimes I find people who are regular at a course are just their to do their thing. They have no idea of what else is happening. All they want is get their daily round in.:mad:
I would like to think that after a few times of yelling "INCOMING!" that they would have gotten the idea. :D

[rbaker]

This goes on a lot, and almost exclusively with Cart riders.
The problem is it leaves some of us not focused, and instinctively we will go well away from the person standing at the pin.



I would of said 'heads up' and hit right at the pin.

[hoganapexplus]

Wow, that is, I want to say unbelievable, but we have all seen the most stunning things on the course. Not sure how I would have handled it but I like the suggestion of just letting them go and playing behind them since that is what it appeared they wanted anyway.
Did the single on the cart offer to let you ride or do you prefer to walk?

[Golftime]

Wow, that is, I want to say unbelievable, but we have all seen the most stunning things on the course. Not sure how I would have handled it but I like the suggestion of just letting them go and playing behind them since that is what it appeared they wanted anyway.
Did the single on the cart offer to let you ride or do you prefer to walk?
I jumped on the cart once when there was a long way from a green to the next tee. He offered to let me ride when I wanted to but I need to lose some weight so I preferred to walk. Besides we were waiting on every tee anyway.
I forgot that the old guy almost hit his own partner on one chip. She was walking to the green ahead of him and he went ahead and hit. Missed her by a foot or so, I'm not sure that she even noticed.

[hoganben]

Even the woman was fast? Are you sure you weren't dreaming all of this. I rarely have come across people who play too fast. Most people play like they drive cars -slow in the fast lane. They think they are fast, but they are dillusional.

Where people run into trouble is when they don't accept that it is going to be a slow day because they have to many slow farts in front that can't be played through. I force myself to walk or drive the cart slow (if I am forced to take a cart) to keep the slow pace that the groups in front are. On a busy day you need to time it so you are just arriving at the tee when the group ahead is just leaving.

A good marshall should have helped you out by pointing out to your partners that you couldn't play through because the course was too crowded He could have encouraged them to slow down -that would save you from being the bad guy. He could have also let them know the pace of play wasn't really that slow -like you claimed. Some courses have clocks on each tee. If yours had you could have pointed out that you were actually doing quite well, time-wise.

Perhaps, if the your fellow "golfers" had been walking they might have enjoyed themselves more. They would have probably been less stressed. However, a lot of people do enjoy drinking coffee, smoking, and driving a golf cart.

[woof]

It really is amazing how some players have no knowledge of basic golf etiquette. Maybe there should be a short 'training' video for each golf course that every player playing the course for the first time needs to sit in on...

[Golftime]

Even the woman was fast? Are you sure you weren't dreaming all of this. I rarely have come across people who play too fast. Most people play like they drive cars -slow in the fast lane. They think they are fast, but they are dillusional.

Where people run into trouble is when they don't accept that it is going to be a slow day because they have to many slow farts in front that can't be played through. I force myself to walk or drive the cart slow (if I am forced to take a cart) to keep the slow pace that the groups in front are. On a busy day you need to time it so you are just arriving at the tee when the group ahead is just leaving.

A good marshall should have helped you out by pointing out to your partners that you couldn't play through because the course was too crowded He could have encouraged them to slow down -that would save you from being the bad guy. He could have also let them know the pace of play wasn't really that slow -like you claimed. Some courses have clocks on each tee. If yours had you could have pointed out that you were actually doing quite well, time-wise.

Perhaps, if the your fellow "golfers" had been walking they might have enjoyed themselves more. They would have probably been less stressed. However, a lot of people do enjoy drinking coffee, smoking, and driving a golf cart.
Yes the woman was fast as well. As I said before they took the phrase ready golf to a new level. I played the same course a few days later with three women whose average age was probably 60+. We walked and played in just under 4 hours. Since you brought up the driving analagy the twosome reminded me of the drivers I see on the highway every day. They race like mad to catch up to someone and then hit the brakes to avoid rear ending them. The the next move is to hop over two lanes to squeeze in just ahead of someone.

It really is amazing how some players have no knowledge of basic golf etiquette. Maybe there should be a short 'training' video for each golf course that every player playing the course for the first time needs to sit in on...
Do you think that there is a business opportunity buried in there?

[hoganben]

I hope that the cart girl wasn't 60+ too. That sounds like quite the wild crowd you hang out with.