Irons ???

[ocat]

Hey All. I am considering buying a new set of irons and was wondering if anyone could help. I am currently playing a set of Jazz Alley Cats. I shoot in the mid 80's to low 80's. I am really just looking to upgrade and see if it will help my score. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

[JEBS]

Ocat, I would head over to a GT and hit a hole whack of clubs until you find what kind of club fits your eye and your swing/ability, then I would get two or three ideas from that and then ask that question since we will get a better idea of what kind of clubs you prefer. There are also many clubfitters on this forum who can help you take it to the next level..

[ocat]

The only problem with that is the closest GT is over 1.5hr away. I could hit some clubs at the local range but I don't want to hit everything! I have done the Cobra fitting system and it recommended the CB irons. I guess I am just looking for a starting point.

Thanks

[The Troll]

The only problem with that is the closest GT is over 1.5hr away.

I only wish my nearest GT was that far away....I'm familiar with every GT within that radius to me. :mad:

Anyways, I spent 5 hours in a GT a couple of years ago trying putters before finding the putter I will likely have the rest of my life.

Point being, for the time you spend on the course a 1.5 hour drive isn't much.

[ocat]

I guess your right when you look at it that way. I always have a hard time at GT because no one there takes me serious. I guess I am not your average hacker. I feel out of place when I ask to hit the nice clubs and they look at me like I must be jokeing. I guess I can give them another chance.

Thanks

[Benji]

on the Golf town website there is the try before you buy, you select which clubs you want to try and they're shipped to your house, you get them for 5 days for about $35. when you're finished you take them to a UPS store to have them shipped back and the shipping is in the cost of trying them. I did it a couple of months ago and it was a good test of the clubs. Also if you but the set at Golf Town you get the cost of the try before you but back.

[ocat]

Also a really good idea. Can you take the clubs out for a round or are you only able to hit them at a range?
This forum really is great thanks all.

[Benji]

I took the clubs out for 3 rounds while I had them, I didn't read any where about any restrictions. In the end I purchased them and I got the refund.

[guitarman]

I guess your right when you look at it that way. I always have a hard time at GT because no one there takes me serious. I guess I am not your average hacker. I feel out of place when I ask to hit the nice clubs and they look at me like I must be jokeing. I guess I can give them another chance.

Thanks

I know what you mean. When I go to the Ancaster store they let you hit about 5 balls and say "Thats enough". They really rush you.
A golf retailer I go to in the Cambridge area one day let me hit irons until I couldn't swing anymore. No rush. Its a small place but I love going there. They take good care of you.

[ocat]

I know what you mean. When I go to the Ancaster store they let you hit about 5 balls and say "Thats enough". They really rush you.
A golf retailer I go to in the Cambridge area one day let me hit irons until I couldn't swing anymore. No rush. Its a small place but I love going there. They take good care of you.

Does this place have a name?

[rangefreak]

I know what you mean. When I go to the Ancaster store they let you hit about 5 balls and say "Thats enough". They really rush you.
A golf retailer I go to in the Cambridge area one day let me hit irons until I couldn't swing anymore. No rush. Its a small place but I love going there. They take good care of you.

That's about when I would say, "You're right. I think you've had about enough of my business too."

[danscustomgolfshop]

I guess your right when you look at it that way. I always have a hard time at GT because no one there takes me serious. I guess I am not your average hacker. I feel out of place when I ask to hit the nice clubs and they look at me like I must be jokeing. I guess I can give them another chance.

Thanks

Most can't take you seriously because of a lack of fitting skills. Their only objective is to make a sale and make it fast. You will be back next year for next years magic, as everything you just bought is no longer the cream of the crop.

or

You can visit a Qualified / Certified Clubmaker / Fitter that will take the time to be sure they understand your swing, timing, length, lie, weight, flex, grip size etc. - then build to these parameters. I fail to understand why the masses continue to flow to the big box, when their are talented Professionals all over the province. Mind you some are better than others and this will show up during the fitting session as well.

[hoganben]

on the Golf town website there is the try before you buy, you select which clubs you want to try and they're shipped to your house, you get them for 5 days for about $35. when you're finished you take them to a UPS store to have them shipped back and the shipping is in the cost of trying them. I did it a couple of months ago and it was a good test of the clubs. Also if you but the set at Golf Town you get the cost of the try before you but back.

Wow, how can you beat that! Does it really include shipping? What a great way to buy/try clubs. Even if they didn't give you back the $35 it would be fun to try. I don't need any irons, but it might be fun to try a set of Nike blades like Tiger uses (yes, I know that they are not exactly the same as Tiger's). It would be fun to use them for a day or two as long as I wasn't going against the spirit of Golftowns' offer.

It is hard to beat Golftown. Great service and very low prices. As everyone knows they have brought down everyone's prices. They often sell for less than what Edwin Watt's does in US dollars.
The people who dislike Golftown often seem to be in competition with them.

[danscustomgolfshop]

on the Golf town website there is the try before you buy, you select which clubs you want to try and they're shipped to your house, you get them for 5 days for about $35. when you're finished you take them to a UPS store to have them shipped back and the shipping is in the cost of trying them. I did it a couple of months ago and it was a good test of the clubs. Also if you but the set at Golf Town you get the cost of the try before you but back.

Wow, how can you beat that! Does it really include shipping? What a great way to buy/try clubs. Even if they didn't give you back the $35 it would be fun to try. I don't need any irons, but it might be fun to try a set of Nike blades like Tiger uses (yes, I know that they are not exactly the same as Tiger's). It would be fun to use them for a day or two as long as I wasn't going against the spirit of Golftowns' offer.

It is hard to beat Golftown. Great service and very low prices. As everyone knows they have brought down everyone's prices. They often sell for less than what Edwin Watt's does in US dollars.
The people who dislike Golftown often seem to be in competition with them.

Golftown is in competition with all the other big box stores - Canadian Tire, Wallmart, anybody who bulk orders. I really do not consider them to be my competition as we are in 2 completely different leagues.
They are in the mass production, move it out so they can get the new in right behind it league.
I am in the 'fit the patron so every club works like it was made for them and them alone' league were my biggest desire is to hear the comments back that never have they had clubs that sat so well, and swung so fine league.
How can you possibly think that 1 or 2 sizes fit all. Yes, that shipped club will probably play better than the one you were using due to improved design technology, but if it was fit to your personal stature, keeping your swing plane and speed in mind, with a target ball flight as the intended final result, you would find that that 'off the rack' club is no where near what a professionally fit club would play like.
Mind you, take that 'off the shelf' club, fit it to the right loft, put the right shaft in it (not the $7 stock shaft it has) and build the grip up to the correct dimensions and it would perform like it was intended.
I am not bashing the equipment, but I certainly am saying that the fit from any big box, will not come even minutely close to that of a Certified Clubmaking Professional - Period.

[hoganben]

I didn't say one size fits all. However, they should fit most. I'm sure that I could decide after playing them on a course. I have no need to replace my Hogans or Staffs anyway. New technology wouldn't make any difference. If I grow any taller, get bigger hands, or decide to change my swing speed, I'll go into Golftown and get my clubs worked on.

[hoganben]

Golftown is in competition with all the other big box stores - Canadian Tire, Wallmart, anybody who bulk orders. I really do not consider them to be my competition as we are in 2 completely different leagues.
They are in the mass production, move it out so they can get the new in right behind it league.
I am in the 'fit the patron so every club works like it was made for them and them alone' league were my biggest desire is to hear the comments back that never have they had clubs that sat so well, and swung so fine league.
How can you possibly think that 1 or 2 sizes fit all. Yes, that shipped club will probably play better than the one you were using due to improved design technology, but if it was fit to your personal stature, keeping your swing plane and speed in mind, with a target ball flight as the intended final result, you would find that that 'off the rack' club is no where near what a professionally fit club would play like.
Mind you, take that 'off the shelf' club, fit it to the right loft, put the right shaft in it (not the $7 stock shaft it has) and build the grip up to the correct dimensions and it would perform like it was intended.
I am not bashing the equipment, but I certainly am saying that the fit from any big box, will not come even minutely close to that of a Certified Clubmaking Professional - Period.


PS -I forgot to say in my previous "post" that I was impressed that you responded to my original post in a professional manner (probably more so than I did). I like how you took in my opinion and commented on it without going "Jerry Springer" on me. Of course, the "Jerry Springer" (and sometimes "Twilight Zone") edge of the TGN is what makes it so compelling/addictive. For example, the ongoing debate between the clubmakers and geeze, I forget their names, reminds me of Fog Horn Leghorn and that dog (for us old guys).

Wikpedia -"Many of the gags involved Foghorn and a canine nemesis (informally known as the "Barnyard Dawg", though on early model sheets his name is given as George P. Dog) engaging in one-upmanship through a series of pranks. Most common among them was Leghorn's taking up a plank of wood, while ambling along humming "Camptown Races," (the only intelligible words being "Doo-DAH! Doo-DAH!") and, coming to the sleeping Dawg with his front half inside his doghouse, picking up his tail and rapidly whacking (almost always with eight strokes) his exposed rear end. The dog would give chase, usually with his leash still attached to his collar, until it was stretched taut and his barking was replaced by an anguished shriek, although in rare cases it's the dog that starts the series of pranks and as such it is somewhat difficult to tell who started the feud." I wonder if Foghorn Legorn "would find that that 'off the rack' club is no where near what a professionally fit club would play like".

[TourIQ]

Also a really good idea. Can you take the clubs out for a round or are you only able to hit them at a range?If they are shipped to your door and you have them for 5 days who is going to know if you played 36 holes with them or just tried them on the range :rofl:

[danscustomgolfshop]

I didn't say one size fits all. However, they should fit most. I'm sure that I could decide after playing them on a course. I have no need to replace my Hogans or Staffs anyway. New technology wouldn't make any difference. If I grow any taller, get bigger hands, or decide to change my swing speed, I'll go into Golftown and get my clubs worked on.

Well good luck with your future fittings. My goal is to educate and hopefully get some to understand the benefits.
No, one size does not fit all, Big Boxes have 2 sizes, + 1 ladies so as long as this satisfies the masses that want to play average golf and not reach the potential that is possible, then so be it.
I have always supported the little guy, cause they are our family, friends and neighbors. In our case the little guy is way advanced over the big guy
PS. I always rooted for the dog to catch that fat chicken.

[ocat]

How long would a fitting take? I really want to improve my game and if a fitting will help I would be up for that.($$$$) I live near Windsor but have family in Brantford my next visit I could make a day out of a fitting if that's long enough. Please let me know of possible places to go I am very interested.

Thanks

[danscustomgolfshop]

Fittings can take anywhere from 1/2 hour to 2 hours depending on what the final goal is. If my fittings are part of the purchase a new set mode then that just gets worked into the final price.
Just fittings can range from $50 to $200 depending where you go, Some do limited fittings for free, just not too sure how much effort goes into these.
I am in Hampton - Oshawa? FYI