Something about this site

[wayland]

Am I the only person who thinks that the the behaviour on this site is like an abberration of what most online forums/communities are? I have used the Internet since 1990 and have actively participated in more forums than I care to count. Nowhere do I see the level of moderation and disputes that this site experiences. Sites with 100x the membership and traffic fare better than TGN in terms of signal/noise.

Do the members notice this?

Do the moderators/owners notice this? If you do, do you ask yourself why? What reasons did you come up with to explain this phenomenum?

For those who want to say that this is such a "tight knit bunch of people" and we're bound to fight like siblings; I don't buy it. Any site where the target demographic isn't a bunch of 12yr old video gamers usually exhibits strong commodery, TGN isn't special in this regard.

[golfingoalie]

Agreed.

[davevandyk]

ya i would have expected it to be the opposite. Since lots of us DO play golf together a few times a year, you would think it would be much better, because most of us can't "hide behind a username" like on other sites where you don't get together.

[corchard]

ya i would have expected it to be the opposite. Since lots of us DO play golf together a few times a year, you would think it would be much better, because most of us can't "hide behind a username" like on other sites where you don't get together.

Ya and I'm getting really tired of your signature you uptight blowser :hush:

Yes you beat us. Get on with it already.:D

[leftintherough]

Am I the only person who thinks that the the behaviour on this site is like an abberration of what most online forums/communities are? I have used the Internet since 1990 and have actively participated in more forums than I care to count. Nowhere do I see the level of moderation and disputes that this site experiences. Sites with 100x the membership and traffic fare better than TGN in terms of signal/noise.

Do the members notice this?

Do the moderators/owners notice this? If you do, do you ask yourself why? What reasons did you come up with to explain this phenomenum?

For those who want to say that this is such a "tight knit bunch of people" and we're bound to fight like siblings; I don't buy it. Any site where the target demographic isn't a bunch of 12yr old video gamers usually exhibits strong commodery, TGN isn't special in this regard.

I'm not quite getting this but I sense I have just been severely "tongue-lashed"

[davevandyk]

Ya and I'm getting really tired of your signature you uptight blowser :hush:

Yes you beat us. Get on with it already.:D

Ya, perhaps i should change that up, perhaps a running ticker of the Sens/Leafs record for the year...but only if i can count pre-season! :rofl:

[hogannut]

Am I the only person who thinks that the the behaviour on this site is like an abberration of what most online forums/communities are? I have used the Internet since 1990 and have actively participated in more forums than I care to count. Nowhere do I see the level of moderation and disputes that this site experiences. Sites with 100x the membership and traffic fare better than TGN in terms of signal/noise.

Do the members notice this?

Do the moderators/owners notice this? If you do, do you ask yourself why? What reasons did you come up with to explain this phenomenum?

For those who want to say that this is such a "tight knit bunch of people" and we're bound to fight like siblings; I don't buy it. Any site where the target demographic isn't a bunch of 12yr old video gamers usually exhibits strong commodery, TGN isn't special in this regard.

IMO....golf and sports in general can cause people to be very emotional, sometimes beyond common sense. I can say I have crossed the line on occasion trying to prove a point.....GG25 can attest to that. GG25 and I are now great chat room friends, because we both agreed to disagree. Just using this as an example Chad!:hush: :eek: :D

I will say though there are people who simply believe in their opinions and will fight with anyone about it. I remember that "aze Pete" who eventually was banned due to his inability to debate his theory on the golf swing. Using that example I do think the moderators/owner are very good in monitoring the site. They let you make your point and as long as you don't cross the line of common sense what is wrong with hashing it out?

Compare this chat room to what happens at soccer matches and it makes us look like we are sitting around a camp fire singing folk songs!;)

[nearace]

Ya and I'm getting really tired of your signature you uptight blowser :hush:

Yes you beat us. Get on with it already.:DI have had a few good chuckles this week and that was one of them.:rofl: :rofl:

[racmbs]

IMO....golf and sports in general can cause people to be very emotional, sometimes beyond common sense. I can say I have crossed the line on occasion trying to prove a point.....GG25 can attest to that. GG25 and I are now great chat room friends, because we both agreed to disagree. Just using this as an example Chad!:hush: :eek: :D

I will say though there are people who simply believe in their opinions and will fight with anyone about it. I remember that "aze Pete" who eventually was banned due to his inability to debate his theory on the golf swing. Using that example I do think the moderators/owner are very good in monitoring the site. They let you make your point and as long as you don't cross the line of common sense what is wrong with hashing it out?

Compare this chat room to what happens at soccer matches and it makes us look like we are sitting around a camp fire singing folk songs!;)

The guys name was "abz-pete".

I've met him and played golf with him, awesome guy....and he's Scottish. :D

[hogannut]

The guys name was "abz-pete".

I've met him and played golf with him, awesome guy....and he's Scottish. :D

I'm not saying he was a bad person, I was saying he was unable to accept other peoples opinions. I'm not even saying his ideas were wrong and mine were right, I was just using an example. Didn't mean to offend anyone...if I did.;)

[Bellyhungry]

This thread needs to be locked down...

Whatever transpires here should never be discussed.

[racmbs]

I'm not saying he was a bad person, I was saying he was unable to accept other peoples opinions. I'm not even saying his ideas were wrong and mine were right, I was just using an example. Didn't mean to offend anyone...if I did.;)

Not at all my friend...was just correcting his name and affirming the fact that he's Scottish, which makes him an even better guy. :p :D

[leftintherough]

The guys name was "abz-pete".

I've met him and played golf with him, awesome guy....and he's Scottish. :D

And you know what they say.... if its nay scottish, its ......

[racmbs]

This thread needs to be locked down...

Whatever transpires here should never be discussed.

And you sir, need to keep it down or else I'll color your Red Lamkins, bright Yellow the next time I see you.

[wayland]

Would someone be so kind as to give me the link to the thread in which Pete got banned as a result of?

It must have happened recently as I recall seeing him post only a couple of weeks ago.

hogannut, I'm not so sure I agree with your assessment that it has to do with being sports related. It's a golf site, none of the other 4 golf forums I've been on have the problems TGN does.

As to soccer hooliganism, I fail to see how it has anything to do with this topic. Are you going to use the civil unrest in Iraq as your next example? :rolleyes:
The point of this thread concerns behaviour in this online forum. Not human behavioural patterns.

[leftintherough]

Would someone be so kind as to give me the link to the thread in which Pete got banned as a result of?

It must have happened recently as I recall seeing him post only a couple of weeks ago.

hogannut, I'm not so sure I agree with your assessment that it has to do with being sports related. It's a golf site, none of the other 4 golf forums I've been on have the problems TGN does.

As to soccer hooliganism, I fail to see how it has anything to do with this topic. Are you going to use the civil unrest in Iraq as your next example? :rolleyes:
The point of this thread concerns behaviour in this online forum. Not human behavioural patterns.

Wayland; did you play competative hockey? I totally see HN's point that he is trying to make.

To your other point, being sarcastically facetious is borderline stirring it up and the behaviour is going against the point your are trying to make. Is the TGN shannigans rubbing off on you the wrong way?

[hogannut]

Would someone be so kind as to give me the link to the thread in which Pete got banned as a result of?

It must have happened recently as I recall seeing him post only a couple of weeks ago.

hogannut, I'm not so sure I agree with your assessment that it has to do with being sports related. It's a golf site, none of the other 4 golf forums I've been on have the problems TGN does.

As to soccer hooliganism, I fail to see how it has anything to do with this topic. Are you going to use the civil unrest in Iraq as your next example? :rolleyes:
The point of this thread concerns behaviour in this online forum. Not human behavioural patterns.

Is this post not exactly what you are saying doesn't happen on other golf chat rooms?:confused:

[discomonkey]

Am I the only person who thinks that the the behaviour on this site is like an abberration of what most online forums/communities are? I have used the Internet since 1990 and have actively participated in more forums than I care to count. Nowhere do I see the level of moderation and disputes that this site experiences. Sites with 100x the membership and traffic fare better than TGN in terms of signal/noise.

Do the members notice this?

Do the moderators/owners notice this? If you do, do you ask yourself why? What reasons did you come up with to explain this phenomenum?

For those who want to say that this is such a "tight knit bunch of people" and we're bound to fight like siblings; I don't buy it. Any site where the target demographic isn't a bunch of 12yr old video gamers usually exhibits strong commodery, TGN isn't special in this regard.

Careful... you're gonna get banned :rolleyes:

We're not allowed to criticize the way mods run this site. :rolleyes: We can express opinions here... so long as the opinion isn't negative towards any mod or the site... no matter how ridiculous the action. :rolleyes:

i think i rolled my eyes too much... dizzy now...

[hogannut]

Not at all my friend...was just correcting his name and affirming the fact that he's Scottish, which makes him an even better guy. :p :D

My Grandfather fought for 4 years in the trenches in a kilt! You don't have to tell me about the Scots!;)

[TourIQ]

To your other point, being sarcastically facetious is borderline stirring it up and the behaviour is going against the point your are trying to make.I read it the same way :eek: :rofl:
Are we calling the kettle black? :help: :hush:
MOD Alert: 'black' in this context isn't a racial slur :cool: :D

[wayland]

Wayland; did you play competative hockey? I totally see HN's point that he is trying to make.

To your other point, being sarcastically facetious is borderline stirring it up and the behaviour is going against the point your are trying to make. Is the TGN shannigans rubbing off on you the wrong way?

LiR,

I'm sorry but you've lost me here. Only hockey I played was in the street afterschool as a y00t.

I'm not being facetious. The point I was trying to make originally was that this forum has more *ulls*it than any other I've visited in my almost 2 decades of online activity. This is a golf forum, aside from the useless Leaf/Sen threads there isn't much rivalry type posting which would foster the strong emotions shown on TGN. It's not a forum where you have to pick one side and the other side is the enemy (as in the world of english soccer).

Anyways, I was just wondering if it was only me that noticed this. If you don't agree then it must me and I'll turn down my sensitivity meter.

*edited for political correctness

[The Troll]

and affirming the fact that he's Scottish, which makes him an even better guy. :p :D

So that's why I'm a wonderful guy. :D

Of all the boards I've been on, owned or moderated this is one of the least confrontational....but the confrontations are the same in form that I have seen elsewhere....a simple refusal to accept that other people have valid opinions too.

[discomonkey]

MOD Alert: 'black' in this context isn't a racial slur :cool: :D


bwaahahaha :D:D:D

[Frank101]

Am I the only person who thinks that the the behaviour on this site is like an abberration of what most online forums/communities are? I have used the Internet since 1990 and have actively participated in more forums than I care to count. Nowhere do I see the level of moderation and disputes that this site experiences. Sites with 100x the membership and traffic fare better than TGN in terms of signal/noise.

Do the members notice this?

Do the moderators/owners notice this? If you do, do you ask yourself why? What reasons did you come up with to explain this phenomenum?

For those who want to say that this is such a "tight knit bunch of people" and we're bound to fight like siblings; I don't buy it. Any site where the target demographic isn't a bunch of 12yr old video gamers usually exhibits strong commodery, TGN isn't special in this regard.

yup yup

[wayland]

As to "stirring it up". I'm asking a question to illicit thought. If you can't look at a problem and ponder it's origins, you're not going to fix much in life.

Kettle black? Harry get a life. When was the last time you made a post without having to put some absurd disclaimer for the mods to read. Chicken ****. If you can't reply with something even remotely on topic, bugger off and bump your --- post counter elsewhere.

*edited for political correctness

[discomonkey]

If you can't reply with something even remotely on topic, bugger off and bump your post counter elsewhere.

you mean, "happy" right? "...your happy post counter...". :p

[hogannut]

My last comment on this thread is this. I have had nothing but good experiences here. TGN was the first chat room I have been on, so I can't compare. I have enjoyed everyone I have met and golfed with at the TGN events. I will also say my own game has improved as well due to the chat room. I met my caddy here.....and LIR and myself really came together as a team this year and put up some decent numbers in the last few events we played in.

If I never found TGN I do not know if my game would be where it is at right now. Just think how much stronger my fingers are from all the key strokes (ha ha).


If you don't like it here, then simply leave. Don't write that you are leaving because of this or that, just leave gracriously. If you don't like the way the chat room is being run, then don't chat anymore. Doesn't this make more sense than stirring up all this s**t??????

[JEBS]

you mean, "happy" right? "...your happy post counter...". :p

beat me to it!!

My Grandfather fought for 4 years in the trenches in a kilt! You don't have to tell me about the Scots!

I got a Scottish handshake once.. It kinda hurt!! not a friendly way to meet someone IMO

Doesn't this make more sense than stirring up all this s**t??????

Thats soot stirring up all this soot!!!

[wayland]

My last comment on this thread is this.




If you don't like it here, then simply leave. Don't write that you are leaving because of this or that, just leave gracriously. If you don't like the way the chat room is being run, then don't chat anymore. Doesn't this make more sense than stirring up all this s**t??????

I have nothing against you personally, please keep that in mind as you continue reading. If your attitude in life is to simply give up, throw out anything that doesn't work, or you don't agree with...that's your choice. But if we all lived by that mantra, I can guarantee you that there would be alot fewer things that we enjoy in life. Things don't get fixed or improved if we don't stop to question what could be different or question why things are the way they are.

[Greywolf]

I have and still do frequent several internet forums, they all pertain to golf and I have seen first hand many similar issues occur in these other forums that arise here. TGN is not an anomaly in my opinion.

There are always some individuals that like to stir the pot, sometimes that occurs innocently through a poor choice of words, other instances are deliberate and are only intended to upset others.

Some individuals behave in a different manner when cloaked behind an IP address, they may or may not be that way when you are face to face with them. Ignoring probing posts or comments is at times the only way to not feed the disturbers, again, in my opinion.

TGN is not as moderated as some other forums, we try to step in where we feel it is warranted. None of us have the time or inclination to sit at a PC 24 hours a day and deliberate over each and every word. People should have more consideration for other forum members, watch your choice of words, think twice or more before hitting the "submit reply" button and be respectful.

[hogannut]

I hope you keep your word. Or your following comment about leaving graciously is bunk.



I have nothing against you personally, please keep that in mind as you continue reading. If your attitude in life is to simply give up, throw out anything that doesn't work, or you don't agree with...that's your choice. But if we all lived by that mantra, I can guarantee you that there would be alot fewer things that we enjoy in life. Things don't get fixed or improved if we don't stop to question what could be different or question why things are the way they are.



My comments about simply leaving have nothing to do with me being a quitter. You make all these claims, yet you were the one who started this thread to begin with and have critisized everyone who didn't agree with YOU!!!!! Funny because I have never had a mediator post a comment like the one above for any of my threads/comments.

Now I'm done!:hush:

[golfcrazy]

Back to golf guys fun fun fun!!!! No need to take each other apart!

[JEBS]

Can't we go back to making fun of Michelle Wie ???

[golfnguru]

What happened to TorontoGolfNuts.com.

I apparently have landed at TorontoNuts.com.

[Greywolf]

My comments about simply leaving have nothing to do with me being a quitter. You make all these claims, yet you were the one who started this thread to begin with and have critisized everyone who didn't agree with YOU!!!!! Funny because I have never had a mediator post a comment like the one above for any of my threads/comments.

Now I'm done!:hush:

My comments above are not aimed at anyone in particular, it is my personal statement about the way I see and have seen things happen here and on other golf forums. Wayland asked if there was something about this site that is different from others, in my opinion, the answer is no.

[wayland]

SInce you don't know me your comment on my character is one of ignorance and arrogance. My comments about simply leaving have nothing to do with me being a quitter. You make all these claims, yet you were the one who started this thread to begin with and have critisized everyone who didn't agree with YOU!!!!! You tell me to look in the mirror? Funny because I have never had a mediator post a comment like the one above for any of my threads/comments.

Now I'm done!:hush:

Wow.

Such anger.

If you think this thread has anything to do with people disagreeing with MY point of view, you couldn't be more wrong. Did I actually criticize anyone? I asked if anyone agreed with my general sentiment of what I see on this site. Please come back, I won't hold your earlier comment against you. I am really curious as to who I criticized here. Please quote it.

You made the suggestion to quit/leave if I didn't like how things were run. If that's not advice that you believe in, don't offer it. BTW, your reading comprehension needs some improvement. I didn't call you a quitter (however you did just admit to being one), I was actually lecturing you with that paragraph.

have nothing to do with me being a quitter
:rofl:

[gocchin]

Politics are a part of every forum, as is debate and bickering at different levels. I personally dislike politics and the BS that goes on in a lot of forums and yes theres lots of it here but I try and stay out of it and focus on what I'm here for and that's to share my interest in golf.

Many people here do the same but it's inevitable that personalities (especially strong ones will clash). I've met lots of great people here who have helped me out, and this is the first golf forum I joined last year when I started playing.

I've definitely seen this forum lose focus from time to time and chaos take reign, yet I've always come back as have many of you here. I try not to take things personally and stick to golf and ignore the rest. (^_^)

[TourIQ]

As to "stirring it up". I'm asking a question to illicit thought. If you can't look at a problem and ponder it's origins, you're not going to fix much in life.I can ponder the intent of this thread but not who origitated it :rofl: by your ability to take 'pot shots'
at more than 1 person already. Ever try 'looking in the mirror' [once in a while] wayland?

Kettle black? Harry get a life. When was the last time you made a post without having to put some retarded disclaimer for the mods to read. Chicken ****. If you can't reply with something even remotely on topic, bugger off and bump your gay post counter elsewhere.Excuse me for joking with the mods with a hint of humour :hush: per my MOD Alert.
wayland I don't need to get a life, I have one already :D
I've never been called 'gay', now this is a first :hush:
Yes I think the 'kettle is black', but you do not recognize it.

[luv2golow]

This is a golf forum, aside from the gay Leaf/Sen threads there isn't much rivalry type posting which would foster the strong emotions shown on TGN. I

And by gay you mean Happy, right?;) Just a clarification. :D

What happened to TorontoGolfNuts.com.

I apparently have landed at TorontoNuts.com. Pure comedy. Boo Yaa!;)



I've definitely seen this forum lose focus from time to time and chaos take reign, yet I've always come back as have many of you here. I try not to take things personally and stick to golf and ignore the rest. (^_^)

Excellent attitude. If only we could all share your patience.....:D

[jmr73]

Not at all my friend...was just correcting his name and affirming the fact that he's Scottish, which makes him an even better guy. :p :D

You two knock it off before this gets ugly :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Is it just me, or is everyone walking on glass around here. I notice a lot more comments the last couple of days where people go overboard to make nice and ensure their message is not misinterpreted.

So many apologies it makes me feel all warm inside... so typically Canadian of us.

Please don't take this the wrong way.

* this post is the refelcts the opinion of the poster not of this site or its members. It should not be taken negatively in any shape or form. The crack about Canadians was not intended to be a racist comment.

[luv2golow]

I can ponder the intent of this thread but not who origitated it :rofl: by your ability to take 'pot shots'
at more than 1 person already. Ever try 'looking in the mirror' [once in a while] wayland?
.

Why is it that every thread where Tour IQ and Wayland post turns into a slugfest?:rofl: I think you guys should throw-down somewhere and bare-knuckle box to the death. That would put an end to it once and for all.....:p

[Grass Roots Tour]

Why is it that every thread where Tour IQ and Wayland post turns into a slugfest?:rofl: I think you guys should throw-down somewhere and bare-knuckle box to the death. That would put an end to it once and for all.....:p


Maybe we should have a poll to decide which of the two has the more useless posts and the loser should bow out. :p

We can call it ...... SUDDEN DEATH !!

[luv2golow]

Maybe we should have a poll to decide which of the two has the more useless posts and the loser should bow out. :p

We can call it ...... SUDDEN DEATH !!

I like the idea. We should have a poll.....:rofl:

[Bellyhungry]

I am afraid that the SUPER MOD might be ready to make an appearance....

I don't wannna be talked to like a child because that's what the Super MOD made me feel the last time he made an appearance.

:( :cry:

Super MOD, it is not me!!!! Wawawawa!!!! It is not me!!!!!! I did not start all the verbal slugfest...Wawawa!!!! :cry::cry::cry::cry:

As for the rest of you...Try to think about Chocolate, ice cream, baby, and puppies to soothe your anger....hehee....

Oh crap....late for a dinner date....

ciao people....

[TourIQ]

Why is it that every thread where Tour IQ and Wayland post turns into a slugfest?:rofl: I think you guys should throw-down somewhere and bare-knuckle box to the death. That would put an end to it once and for all.....:pIf wayland posts to my last reply he can have 'the last word' :hush:

[owenmxz600]

took me 2 beers to read all this.... and all I got out of it is... 20 cents in emteys YAHOO!!!! its almost like working =)

[avidgolfer]

gocchin, who are the girls on your avatar and sig? Just curious.

Why do people stereotype by saying all kettles are black? Mine's white.

I can't put my finger on it but... there is something about this site. There has been more public explosions, ejections and departures during my time here than all the other sites I frequent combined.

Curious to see if something constructive comes out of this thread...

[owenmxz600]

gocchin, who are the girls on your avatar and sig? Just curious.

Why do people stereotype by saying all kettles are black? Mine's white.

I can't put my finger on it but... there is something about this site. There has been more public explosions, ejections and departures during my time here than all the other sites I frequent combined.

Curious to see if something constructive comes out of this thread...

they are off http://inpakuto.com/ a Japan golf website... some nice looking wedges on there I must say!

[discomonkey]

they are off http://inpakuto.com/ a Japan golf website... some nice looking wedges on there I must say!

Isn't that Gocchin's website? I always thought so.

[wayland]

I can't put my finger on it but... there is something about this site. There has been more public explosions, ejections and departures during my time here than all the other sites I frequent combined.

Curious to see if something constructive comes out of this thread...

This is the type of response I was looking for. The troublemakers are the ones who can't seem to read and make things personal.

If anything comes out of this thread, it's a great example of how people misinterpret things and then take it personal. There's one thing I always do before I reply something that might be controversial. I will always read and reread the post I'm about to flame. And even then, with my retort all typed out, I sit on it for a few minutes. I can guarantee you that 15% of the stuff I write doesn't get posted in here as I tell myself that it's not worth it and I simply hit the back button (you should see some of the doozies I've deleted).

I am still waiting for someone to show me where I criticized any member of this site, or where I'm taking pot shots at people in here.

[discomonkey]

I am still waiting for someone to show me where I criticized any member of this site, or where I'm taking pot shots at people in here.

Are you serious? Listen, I agree with you. I have noticed the things that you mention in your original post... but a few of the things you have subsequently posted following your original post has been very unnecessary. Your adjectives of people's threads and posts (i.e. gay, retarded, etc.) are uncalled for. You may very well use these adjectives to describe things in your everyday life, but when you're on an online forum, where the audience is public, you need to be a little more PC than calling things "gay" or somebody's posts, "retarded".

Just adding the "evidence"

...aside from the gay Leaf/Sen threads ...

...Kettle black? Harry get a life. When was the last time you made a post without having to put some retarded disclaimer for the mods to read. Chicken ****. If you can't reply with something even remotely on topic, bugger off and bump your post counter elsewhere.

[Greywolf]

I can't put my finger on it but... there is something about this site. There has been more public explosions, ejections and departures during my time here than all the other sites I frequent combined.


If you hang around BSG you should know that is not the case, moderation there is much higher than it has ever been at TGN.

[pir2]

If you hang around BSG you should know that is not the case, moderation there is much higher than it has ever been at TGN.

I would say BSG is not a good example... it would probably be more of an exception than a norm... but that's OK!

Greywolf can have his opinion, and I can have mine! :D

IMO, BSG isn't even a forum, it's a big online advertisement for overpriced BSG equipment and target for public ridicule from people of other more intelligent forums like TGN!

[hamiltonhacker]

took me 2 beers to read all this.... and all I got out of it is... 20 cents in emteys YAHOO!!!! its almost like working =)
Damn I was drinking scotch while reading this and, lengthy though it was, it was not long enough or painful enough content wise for me to kill the whole bottle. I haven't even made 20 cents from reading this, I am wasting my life:help:

[wayland]

I can ponder the intent of this thread but not who origitated it :rofl: by your ability to take 'pot shots'
at more than 1 person already. Ever try 'looking in the mirror' [once in a while] wayland?

Excuse me for joking with the mods with a hint of humour :hush: per my MOD Alert.
wayland I don't need to get a life, I have one already :D
I've never been called 'gay', now this is a first :hush:
Yes I think the 'kettle is black', but you do not recognize it.

Seeing as you requested it....

Please go back to the first page of this thread. Show me what pot shots I was taking. You are throwing pot shots Harry.

Listen, I can overlook your typos but what I can't ignore is your lack of reading comprehension. If you take the time to analyze my sentence, "gay" is used as an (get ready here...big word coming) A D J E C T I V E to describe the post counter. Simply seeing the word "gay" and projecting it on yourself like that could be viewed as a Freudian slip by some. Regardless, I didn't call you "gay".

Mirror mirror on the wall, how many posts will TourIQ make in this thread with nary a response to the actual topic?

[racmbs]

I got's me a Diet Coke and a fresh bag of dark chocolate M&M's for this main event, YUMMY!

At last, a thread I'm not involved in and a war I didn't start. :D

[luv2golow]

I got's me a Diet Coke and a fresh bag of dark chocolate M&M's for this main event, YUMMY!

At last, a thread I'm not involved in and a war I didn't start. :D

I feel the same way. Only my diet coke is a 20yo scotch and my M&M's are a big spliff. Yummy, nevertheless.....;)

[wayland]

Are you serious? Listen, I agree with you. I have noticed the things that you mention in your original post... but a few of the things you have subsequently posted following your original post has been very unnecessary. Your adjectives of people's threads and posts (i.e. gay, retarded, etc.) are uncalled for. You may very well use these adjectives to describe things in your everyday life, but when you're on an online forum, where the audience is public, you need to be a little more PC than calling things "gay" or somebody's posts, "retarded".

Just adding the "evidence"

Sorry if my use of the word "gay" offends you. I used it on purpose as a jest at a previous thread on this site in which someone got banned for using an inappropriate term. Regardless, I have nothing against homosexuals and you have my sincerest apology (NO I am not implying discomonkey is a homosexual).

I also apologize to all the mentally challenged for the use of the term "retarded".

I guess I can't even call those threads stupid? Help me for I'm at a loss of words for an adjective that will convey my meaning. On second thought, don't help me...I don't need nearace/bigshooter posting 37 terms from the thesaraus in here just to boost their counts.

[luv2golow]

I also apologize to all the mentally challenged for the use of the term "retarded".



Thank you. Me and all the slow kids feel so much better now. Thumbs up for war amps!:D

[wayland]

If you hang around BSG you should know that is not the case, moderation there is much higher than it has ever been at TGN.

The advertisement that is BSG isn't even considered a forum IMO. Other forums I've been on are golfopinions, golfwrx, tourspec, fgi, ottawagolf.

[nearace]

Sorry if my use of the word "gay" offends you. I used it on purpose as a jest at a previous thread on this site in which someone got banned for using an inappropriate term. Regardless, I have nothing against homosexuals and you have my sincerest apology (NO I am not implying discomonkey is a homosexual).

I also apologize to all the mentally challenged for the use of the term "retarded".

I guess I can't even call those threads stupid? Help me for I'm at a loss of words for an adjective that will convey my meaning. On second thought, don't help me...I don't need nearace/bigshooter posting 37 terms from the thesaraus in here just to boost their counts.you cant boost a count if you have posted in the thread allready and please dont use me as an example in any other posts:eek: I have my own problems here.:(

[discomonkey]

Sorry if my use of the word "gay" offends you. I used it on purpose as a jest at a previous thread on this site in which someone got banned for using an inappropriate term. Regardless, I have nothing against homosexuals and you have my sincerest apology (NO I am not implying discomonkey is a homosexual).

I also apologize to all the mentally challenged for the use of the term "retarded".

I guess I can't even call those threads stupid? Help me for I'm at a loss of words for an adjective that will convey my meaning. On second thought, don't help me...I don't need nearace/bigshooter posting 37 terms from the thesaraus in here just to boost their counts.

I didn't really need an apology... nothing you said actually offended me (i hang out with some pretty vulgar guys)... i was just answering your request to show you where you took pot shots at members. i don't know if you'd consider them pot shots, but they were definitely insults to particular members' posts and threads... and in once instance even an insult to that member (i.e. a term in reference to poultry ;)).

Anyway, again, no need for the personal apology as I wasn't offended... but I think it's important to realize that there may be people who are and they may be reading this thread.

Mod alert: the term "people" used in this thread is by no means insinuating any racial prejudice

you cant boost a count if you have posted in the thread allready and please dont use me as an example in any other posts:eek: I have my own problems here.:(

i don't think this is true... the post count moves with every new post (unless it's automerged), no?

[racmbs]

Checking post-counter

Yup, changes with every new post...unless your post is merged like this one.

Damn, 5016 posts? How much friggin' time do I waste on here?

Imagine if they charged us a yearly fee....:p

[discomonkey]

Checking post-counter

Yup, changes with every new post...

Damn, 5016 posts? How much friggin' time do I waste on here?

Imagine if they charged us a yearly fee....:p

did it work?

btw, how many do i need to be a "scratch golfer" - this is really the only way i'll ever get that designation. :rolleyes:

[racmbs]

did it work?

btw, how many do i need to be a "scratch golfer" - this is really the only way i'll ever get that designation. :rolleyes:

Not sure my friend, maybe a 1000 posts?

[nearace]

I didn't really need an apology... nothing you said actually offended me (i hang out with some pretty vulgar guys)... i was just answering your request to show you where you took pot shots at members. i don't know if you'd consider them pot shots, but they were definitely insults to particular members' posts and threads... and in once instance even an insult to that member (i.e. a term in reference to poultry ;)).

Anyway, again, no need for the personal apology as I wasn't offended... but I think it's important to realize that there may be people who are and they may be reading this thread.

Mod alert: the term "people" used in this thread is by no means insinuating any racial prejudice



i don't think this is true... the post count moves with every new post (unless it's automerged), no?take a look at yours it hasnt moved in this thread and you have posted more than once,I post because I believe I offer some form of content or a little funny note,but you can see how posting alot makes me a possible target if thats the right termonology to use.

[racmbs]

take a look at yours it hasnt moved in this thread and you have posted more than once,I post because I believe I offer some form of content or a little funny note,but you can see how posting alot makes me a possible target if thats the right termonology to use.

It changes with every new post.....only time it doesn't, is when your posts merge together. Before this one, my count was 5017, now it's 5018.

[Greywolf]

The advertisement that is BSG isn't even considered a forum IMO. Other forums I've been on are golfopinions, golfwrx, tourspec, fgi, ottawagolf.

You can discount BSG as a forum as you wish to, regardless of that, it is a forum just as this and the others mentioned are also. I have been a member on FGI for 4+ years and have seen the same issues/problems/trolls etc that show up here and elsewhere.

[Rocknronny]

I feel the same way. Only my diet coke is a 20yo scotch and my M&M's are a big spliff. Yummy, nevertheless.....;)YUM! But it would be Red Bull and a spliffy for me.;)
RR

[discomonkey]

take a look at yours it hasnt moved in this thread and you have posted more than once,I post because I believe I offer some form of content or a little funny note,but you can see how posting alot makes me a possible target if thats the right termonology to use.

nah, the post count on your profile is "auto-updated"... so even on your very first post ever, it will have the current number.

[nearace]

Checking post-counter

Yup, changes with every new post...unless your post is merged like this one.

Damn, 5016 posts? How much friggin' time do I waste on here?

Imagine if they charged us a yearly fee....:pI love my time here,and we both kill time here it is not wasted, how come the same number appears under your name if you post in the same thread,do they count?

[Greywolf]

I would say BSG is not a good example... it would probably be more of an exception than a norm... but that's OK!

Greywolf can have his opinion, and I can have mine! :D

IMO, BSG isn't even a forum, it's a big online advertisement for overpriced BSG equipment and target for public ridicule from people of other more intelligent forums like TGN!

You are entitled to your opinion, not right but yours anyway.

[nearace]

now I get it, maybe I should stay off the pipe:eek: crack that is:$

[luv2golow]

now I get it, maybe I should stay off the pipe:eek: crack that is:$

users are losers. say no to drugs.;)

[racmbs]

users are losers. say no to drugs.;)

I accidentally smoked some ganja laced with Viagra once.....

[discomonkey]

say no to drugs.;)

hmmm... that would put me out of business... my motto is, "say YES to drugs"... but then again, i'm a pharmacologist :D

[luv2golow]

I accidentally smoked some ganja laced with Viagra once.....

Not sure I like where this is Heading.....:rofl:

[nearace]

I accidentally smoked some ganja laced with Viagra once.....I got one stuck in my throat and had a stiff neck for hours:eek:

[luv2golow]

hmmm... that would put me out of business... my motto is, "say YES to drugs"... but then again, i'm a pharmacologist :D

My wife worked in the pharmacetuical industry for 10 years as a tech. I can understand your point.;)

Too bad you don't play with the drugs I like, per se.....

I got one stuck in my throat and had a stiff neck for hours:eek:

Too much, dude. Too much.:rofl:.... and you stole Scotty's punchline!

[hamiltonhacker]

I feel the same way. Only my diet coke is a 20yo scotch and my M&M's are a big spliff. Yummy, nevertheless.....;)

Damn my scotch is just Grants and I have no drugs, cheap or otherwise. This thread is making me feel very inadequate, more so because, inspite of me posting gratuitous additions to this thread, I am still just a mid-handicapper.:mad:

[discomonkey]

Damn my scotch is just Grants and I have no drugs, cheap or otherwise. This thread is making me feel very inadequate, more so because, inspite of me posting gratuitous additions to this thread, I am still just a mid-handicapper.:mad:

100 will get you to "low"... now just waiting to get to scratch.

[leftintherough]

OK where are we here? Are we all a bunch of winey pain in the necks at the worst golf discussion wayland has ever saw? Or are we a comunity of sprited golfers of different levels, backgrounds, ethnic origin, home towns, hockey teams that have one very significant major commonality??? Besides diggin chicks? (for the guys) OK, couldn't be totally serious for my whole post, I meant golf of course !

We all have a certain degree of love for the game, which at some level makes us all bretheren. Do we have visits from Trolls? Of course! Are some posters sometimes difficult to live with?

The bottom line folks is that we are community. And, as a member of this community do I always agree with everyone including the mods? No, If we did, then this wouldn't be very fun.

I for one am staying.

[racmbs]

OK where are we here? Are we all a bunch of winey pain in the necks at the worst golf discussion wayland has ever saw? Or are we a comunity of sprited golfers of different levels, backgrounds, ethnic origin, home towns, hockey teams that have one very significant major commonality??? Besides diggin chicks? (for the guys) OK, couldn't be totally serious for my whole post, I meant golf of course !

We all have a certain degree of love for the game, which at some level makes us all bretheren. Do we have visits from Trolls? Of course! Are some posters sometimes difficult to live with?

The bottom line folks is that we are community. And, as a member of this community do I always agree with everyone including the mods? No, If we did, then this wouldn't be very fun.

I for one am staying.

We should start a poll on why we should stay or why we should go.

Just a thought of course. :D

[Leftygolfer30]

On second thought, don't help me...I don't need nearace/bigshooter posting 37 terms from the thesaraus in here just to boost their counts.

Thanks wayland, you just made diet coke shoot out my nose - uncomfortable but kinda tingly...:rofl:

[golfnguru]

We should start a poll on why we should stay or why we should go.

Just a thought of course. :D

I say lets have a poll to see if we should have a poll.:D

[Leftygolfer30]

users are losers. say no to drugs.;)

Now that right there is the "pot calling the kettle black"! :eek: :rofl:

[leftintherough]

We should start a poll on why we should stay or why we should go.

Just a thought of course. :D


Ohhhh you guys....

You're tempting me. I'm so close to going into another poll tirade!

[Leftygolfer30]

I accidentally smoked some ganja laced with Viagra once.....

We don't need you to recount the events of your wedding night Scotty - Swainer has already given us all a copy of the "video" :eek: :rofl:

[nearace]

We should start a poll on why we should stay or why we should go.

Just a thought of course. :DIf I go I would have to spend more of my lesure time conversing with my wife , if I stay I can converse with lovers of the greatest game of all time.

[racmbs]

We don't need you to recount the events of your wedding night Scotty - Swainer has already given us all a copy of the "video" :eek: :rofl:

Swainer always tapes what he can't have. ;)

And it's not my fault that the only position he's good at is on his back, guy needs to hit the gym to get more athletic so he can get a little "funky". :D

[Leftygolfer30]

Swainer always tapes what he can't have. ;)

And it's not my fault that the only position he's good at is on his back, guy needs to hit the gym to get more athletic so he can get a little "funky". :D

It kinda scares me that you know his "only good position"...:eek:

[luv2golow]

Swainer always tapes what he can't have. ;)

And it's not my fault that the only position he's good at is on his back, guy needs to hit the gym to get more athletic so he can get a little "funky". :D

What, no Kama Sutra for Swaaain?:rofl:

It kinda scares me that you know his "only good position"...:eek:

Frightening. Absolutely frightening.:eek: I was under the assumption that his only " good posistion " was on the loo.... Giggity.;)

Now that right there is the "pot calling the kettle black"! :eek: :rofl:

Nice one, Terry. Those who know me, know me.:D

[The Troll]

And it's not my fault that the only position he's good at is on his back

That's not lack of talent....that is just being lazy.

[hamiltonhacker]

100 will get you to "low"... now just waiting to get to scratch.

99 - rats, when I tried to just post "99" I got an error message saying my post was too short. Needs to be at least 5 charcters (it obviously didn't count the quote

96 and counting. Hah that's at least five characters bt its too much like work, I think I'll give up and drink more cheap scotch.

[Big Shooter]

Whoa, here I was posting (gotta keep the #'s up now that Will & Scott are posting regularly again!) before noon (usually I'm sleeping then, as you know), then I drive out to Vic Park East for a round (playing behind The Great Lakes Tour...scoring update....Leader shot -6, me +12), on an LMG "Tour Tuesday" Special rate...$10 all-in, and come back to THIS 4-page diatribe!? (that's a great word, isn't it?!) :confused: :eek:


C'mon "peeps" (a generic term), just 'cause it was a little cloudy today, after a full week of sunshine, doesn't mean you shouldn't be venting your frustrations without a club in your hand (although I see a number of you went the caffeine & booze route!) :p

[torontodude]

Maybe it's a psychological phenomenon because of the name of the forum (Toronto "Golf Nuts") and because it's specifically Toronto (for the most part). There's a sense of commonality and cultural homogeny here whether your Torontonian or just Canadian...it's as natural as bickering with your brother or sister.

[Big Shooter]

as per another thread....

http://www.sasked.gov.sk.ca/docs/artsed/images/the_drama.jpg

[avidgolfer]

If you hang around BSG you should know that is not the case, moderation there is much higher than it has ever been at TGN.

Never been to BSG and don't plan to... ;) But I did hear the stories regarding the place.

[dekker]

Well I'm glad we got this all straightened out.
The members here have another opportunity to hash out their playing differences at Royal Asburn. Maybe you can get the chef to put on a buffet that reflects the diverse representation of TGN.
Dim sum Haggis in soy sauce with a side order Pat Tai and mushy peas and a bottle of Old Speckled Hen to wash it down.:eek: :rofl: You might like it.
.

[el tigre]

Am I the only person who thinks that the the behaviour on this site is like an abberration of what most online forums/communities are? I have used the Internet since 1990 and have actively participated in more forums than I care to count. Nowhere do I see the level of moderation and disputes that this site experiences. Sites with 100x the membership and traffic fare better than TGN in terms of signal/noise. I agree with greywolf that every site goes through these periods. I also think that larger sites end up having a lot more variety in their discussion topics, so you don't have the same people engaged in the same debates over and over again.


Do the members notice this?

Do the moderators/owners notice this? If you do, do you ask yourself why? What reasons did you come up with to explain this phenomenum?

For those who want to say that this is such a "tight knit bunch of people" and we're bound to fight like siblings; I don't buy it. Any site where the target demographic isn't a bunch of 12yr old video gamers usually exhibits strong commodery, TGN isn't special in this regard. IMHO the "tight knit bunch of people" actually has a lot to do with it. I believe the saying "familiarity breeds contempt" is applicable here.

When I first came here, there were a lot of new people joining in and taking an active part in discussions. It seemed to me that much of the moderation was actually a case of getting new members aclimatized to the rules of the forum and the way things work here, and in some cases the disputes actually brought the community closer together (remember PeterG??).

Now it seems that the arguments are mostly between long-time members fighting the same old battles and becoming more and more agitated with each other. We don't seem to be getting a lot of new members (frankly I think they are intimidated by the bickering and banter), so we don't get a lot of new things to talk about.

Personally I would like to see this site become a little more "welcoming" to beginners and high-handicappers - which is the demographic of most of the new members here. When they post their simple and naive questions that we've all seen 100 times before, we could show a little more patience and understanding. Because I think with some more new blood in here, we could be talking a lot more about golf - the one thing that brings us all together - and a lot less about the things that tick us off about each other.

Sorry, this is a lot longer than I thought it would be. But that's my personal opinion, FWIW.

[TourIQ]

I agree with greywolf that every site goes through these periods. I also think that larger sites end up having a lot more variety in their discussion topics, so you don't have the same people engaged in the same debates over and over again.

IMHO the "tight knit bunch of people" actually has a lot to do with it. I believe the saying "familiarity breeds contempt" is applicable here.

When I first came here, there were a lot of new people joining in and taking an active part in discussions. It seemed to me that much of the moderation was actually a case of getting new members aclimatized to the rules of the forum and the way things work here, and in some cases the disputes actually brought the community closer together (remember PeterG??).

Now it seems that the arguments are mostly between long-time members fighting the same old battles and becoming more and more agitated with each other. We don't seem to be getting a lot of new members (frankly I think they are intimidated by the bickering and banter), so we don't get a lot of new things to talk about.

Personally I would like to see this site become a little more "welcoming" to beginners and high-handicappers - which is the demographic of most of the new members here. When they post their simple and naive questions that we've all seen 100 times before, we could show a little more patience and understanding. Because I think with some more new blood in here, we could be talking a lot more about golf - the one thing that brings us all together - and a lot less about the things that tick us off about each other.

Sorry, this is a lot longer than I thought it would be. But that's my personal opinion, FWIW.Well stated el tigre :D I remember PeterG :rofl:
Even Kobus [new member] never got a warm welcome from his 1st post, since a few never gave him the benefit of the doubt ... this is only common curtisy (sp).
Yes we all need to make new members feel welcomed and appreciated in our little golf community.

[JEBS]

Well stated el tigre :D I remember PeterG :rofl:
Even Kobus [new member] never got a warm welcome from his 1st post, since a few never gave him the benefit of the doubt ... this is only common curtisy (sp).
Yes we all need to make new members feel welcomed and appreciated in our little golf community.

I miss Jake_Golf and his 225 yard 7 Iron... sigh...

[nearace]

I miss Jake_Golf and his 225 yard 7 Iron... sigh...that was a classic,I promise to never bail out from this forum :) for some thats good for some thats bad.

[leftintherough]

I still think Greenie holds the #1 troll spot.

[Bellyhungry]

I still think Greenie holds the #1 troll spot.

I also miss Moe Norman and J.Lindberg....Their posts were straight up and in your face.

[leftintherough]

I also miss Moe Norman and J.Lindberg....Their posts were straight up and in your face.

Mais oui!

Thanks, I can't believe I forgot about Moe

[Bellyhungry]

you cant boost a count if you have posted in the thread allready and please dont use me as an example in any other posts:eek: I have my own problems here.:(

Holee Fart man! You and your obsession with post count again?

Can we give Nearace an honorable highest post-count PHD so that we all can move on? Can we count each 1 of his post as 10 so that he can reach his goal soon?

:D

[leftintherough]

Holee Fart man! You and your obsession with post count again?

Can we give Nearace an honorable highest post-count PHD so that we all can move on? Can we count each 1 of his post as 10 so that he can reach his goal soon?

:D

I missed that. What is Nearace post counting goals?

[abz-pete]

I haven't had time to go through all 5 pages of this thread, but I'm NOT the swing theory guy who was banned at the beginning of the year...

That was PeterG - pity really, he was a great source of amusement.... :)

[hogannut]

I haven't had time to go through all 5 pages of this thread, but I'm NOT the swing theory guy who was banned at the beginning of the year...

That was PeterG - pity really, he was a great source of amusement.... :)

Sorry for any confusion I caused on this.

I was only trying to make a point, but my flawed character and lack of anger management left me with egg on my face! I tried to take a good look at myself in the mirror, but it broke!:hush: :eek: :help: ;)

[leftintherough]

Sorry for any confusion I caused on this.

I was only trying to make a point, but my flawed character and lack of anger management left me with egg on my face! I tried to take a good look at myself in the mirror, but it broke!:hush: :eek: :help: ;)

Let go my eggo!

[nearace]

Holee Fart man! You and your obsession with post count again?

Can we give Nearace an honorable highest post-count PHD so that we all can move on? Can we count each 1 of his post as 10 so that he can reach his goal soon?

:Djust for you only b,day posts,and polls

I missed that. What is Nearace post counting goals?none at all

[leftintherough]

none at all

My goals are more beer:beer: :beer: :beer: :clap: :clap:

[avidgolfer]

The only way I could explain the difference between this site and the other sites is the difference between Ultimate Fighting and a Brawl at your local night club or drinking establishment.

Both events are about guys (gals?) pommeling each other but... in the UFC it's about the thrill of battle. The environment is controlled. The aggression and the "bad feelings" during the fight disappears once the fight is over.

The brawls happen in uncontrolled settings and unlike the controlled fight, "bad feelings" remain after the fight.

There's alot of bickering and personal attacks on the other forums, but after one of those fights are finished, "bad feelings" are gone and things return to normal.

It's been my observation that on this board, more members decide to depart from the community after such a heated episode and they do so leaving a public note that they are leaving. Even the most innocent of threads could blow up and cause a member to leave with bad feelings.

If I'm not mistaken, I think this is what Wayland was trying to point out. The same thought has gone through my mind and I'm curious to see what other members think.

[Bellyhungry]

I think what happened here is very much like a poorly officiated soccer game.

I am thnking about the Chilean and Argentina under 21 match this past summer, and also the Portugal vs Holland match in WC 2006.

If the refree of the match does not detect heigthen tension in the first sight and/or if they penalize players inconsistently, then the players feels like they can or have to take matters into their own hands. As soon as one player get away with a infraction but the penalty does not appear to fit the crime, then the rest of the players will follow suit.

Then you also have the bystanders not happy with the refreeing and start expressing their displeasure. And this eventually evolves into a mob mentality where people start rioting and rebelling.

The only way I could explain the difference between this site and the other sites is the difference between Ultimate Fighting and a Brawl at your local night club or drinking establishment.

Both events are about guys (gals?) pommeling each other but... in the UFC it's about the thrill of battle. The environment is controlled. The aggression and the "bad feelings" during the fight disappears once the fight is over.

The brawls happen in uncontrolled settings and unlike the controlled fight, "bad feelings" remain after the fight.

There's alot of bickering and personal attacks on the other forums, but after one of those fights are finished, "bad feelings" are gone and things return to normal.

It's been my observation that on this board, more members decide to depart from the community after such a heated episode and they do so leaving a public note that they are leaving. Even the most innocent of threads could blow up and cause a member to leave with bad feelings.

If I'm not mistaken, I think this is what Wayland was trying to point out. The same thought has gone through my mind and I'm curious to see what other members think.

[leftintherough]

I think what happened here is very much like a poorly officiated soccer game.

I am thnking about the Chilean and Argentina under 21 match this past summer, and also the Portugal vs Holland match in WC 2006.

If the refree of the match does not detect heigthen tension in the first sight and/or if they penalize players inconsistently, then the players feels like they can or have to take matters into their own hands. As soon as one player get away with a infraction but the penalty does not appear to fit the crime, then the rest of the players will follow suit.

Then you also have the bystanders not happy with the refreeing and start expressing their displeasure. And this eventually evolves into a mob mentality where people start rioting and rebelling.

I hope the mods do not ban you for this critical comparrisson and take your point as constructive feedback.

[sundance_kid]

i have red many usful things on these forms. I have not signed up till today as I afraid to get embarassed in some discusions. I have been reading for a few weeks now. Many things i learn on this form. this figthing is not good. I belong to other forms and I agree its wors here. I don't blame mods for saying it is same here as other forms. They need to damage control to compensate for inexperense. I hope the fighting stops as there is many usful information here. :)

[hogannut]

i have red many usful things on these forms. I have not signed up till today as I afraid to get embarassed in some discusions. I have been reading for a few weeks now. Many things i learn on this form. this figthing is not good. I belong to other forms and I agree its wors here. I don't blame mods for saying it is same here as other forms. They need to damage control to compensate for inexperense. I hope the fighting stops as there is many usful information here. :)

Our bark is worse than our bite!!

[racmbs]

i have red many usful things on these forms. I have not signed up till today as I afraid to get embarassed in some discusions. I have been reading for a few weeks now. Many things i learn on this form. this figthing is not good. I belong to other forms and I agree its wors here. I don't blame mods for saying it is same here as other forms. They need to damage control to compensate for inexperense. I hope the fighting stops as there is many usful information here. :)

:rofl:

Ok...who's trying to pass themselves off as a kid. This is a brutal attempt at best.

[Bellyhungry]

I hope the mods do not ban you for this critical comparrisson and take your point as constructive feedback.

I am just outlining what I have observed and try to draw parallel with other examples to give it context.

As far as the soccer matches go. Yes, the officiating were less than desirable, but it was the people who decided to act out of control, not the referee.

Does that mean I can do a better job officiating? Absolutely not. Not in my wildest dream.

As far as potentially getting banned? Nah, I think the MODs can differentiate rationality vs. blind argument.

[sundance_kid]

:rofl:

Ok...who's trying to pass themselves off as a kid. This is a brutal attempt at best.

I am sure that I am not a child. I am 24 and I have golfd for 5 year Pelese forgiv my not great englosh and bad tiping. I am embarsed. I will not tip again.

[cldale]

I am pretty new to these forums and have found almost everyone to be welcoming, helpfull, and reasonably intelligent in what they say/do. Not sure what went down before I joining in late august, (sounds like it would make for a good story) but I like what I see right now.

Just thought a positive post was in order :)

[wayland]

I am sure that I am not a child. I am 24 and I have golfd for 5 year Pelese forgiv my not great englosh and bad tiping. I am embarsed. I will not tip again.

sundance_kid,

Don't let the level of your english deter you from posting (it sure doesn't hold back many others on this site). racmbs was just being a poopoo head (sorry for being politically incorrect, I apologize to any of you who actually have poopoo on your head ).

Welcome to the site and don't be shy, post freely and ask questions.

BTW, you're not the only person who avoids posting because of the english language. I got a PM last night from a fan of my postings who told me that he loves my posts but rarely posts b/c french is his first language.

Sorry for any confusion I caused on this.

I was only trying to make a point, but my flawed character and lack of anger management left me with egg on my face! I tried to take a good look at myself in the mirror, but it broke!:hush: :eek: :help: ;)

Glad we settled that. I know abz-pete and cannot fathom how he could have been banned. The guy is a sheer gentleman, class act and a great golfer to top it off.

[Rocknronny]

I also miss Moe Norman.Its to bad you haven't signed up for the fall classic as it was Moe him self that hooked us up.;)
RR

[golfingoalie]

Its to bad you haven't signed up for the fall classic as it was Moe him self that hooked us up.;)
RR

If you have nothing positive to say you should not say anything at all.

[Bellyhungry]

BTW, you're not the only person who avoids posting because of the english language. I got a PM last night from a fan of my postings who told me that he loves my posts but rarely posts b/c french is his first language.

Shuddup!!! you have fans?

I am just hoping for groupies.

[Rocknronny]

If you have nothing positive to say you should not say anything at all.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[golfingoalie]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Ronny for the Fall Classic let me know if you will need any prizes...











...I will call Swain for you :D

[sundance_kid]

sundance_kid,

Don't let the level of your english deter you from posting (it sure doesn't hold back many others on this site). racmbs was just being a poopoo head (sorry for being politically incorrect, I apologize to any of you who actually have poopoo on your head ).

Welcome to the site and don't be shy, post freely and ask questions.

BTW, you're not the only person who avoids posting because of the english language. I got a PM last night from a fan of my postings who told me that he loves my posts but rarely posts b/c french is his first language.



Glad we settled that. I know abz-pete and cannot fathom how he could have been banned. The guy is a sheer gentleman, class act and a great golfer to top it off.

Thank you for kind words. I am fan of you post as well.:)

[Bellyhungry]

I am sure that I am not a child. I am 24 and I have golfd for 5 year Pelese forgiv my not great englosh and bad tiping. I am embarsed. I will not tip again.

I huv a strung filling dat ur Inglish iz bettah than ur let on.

I feel like walking in the high roller room in Bellagio and can't identify the sucker.

[Fiji]

The advertisement that is BSG isn't even considered a forum IMO. Other forums I've been on are golfopinions, golfwrx, tourspec, fgi, ottawagolf.

Personally I don't like the negativity and pessimism coming from a lot of posts about golf course layouts, shape, bad starters, mediocre service...etc.
Too sunny and hot...too cold and raining...too much aeriation....dry greens...wet greens...

I think this forum should be more about the game itself, the friendships that you make from here and the fun that you have joking with these same friends. Lately...and I mean in the past 2 months...if it's not bad course review it will be war between 2-3 members. Can we have more GOLF discussions and less of...ClubLink is not good enough...Golf North or Kaneff golf also are bad.....RCGA couldn't be more terrible with their pick for the Open...ETC......wow...so much pessimism
Other than that I like it here:D Some good guys...some good times....some good scores.
Toast for everyone who writes positive and bright posts....and have a good sense of humor....
Cheers:cool:

[racmbs]

sundance_kid,

Don't let the level of your english deter you from posting (it sure doesn't hold back many others on this site). racmbs was just being a poopoo head (sorry for being politically incorrect, I apologize to any of you who actually have poopoo on your head ).

Welcome to the site and don't be shy, post freely and ask questions.

BTW, you're not the only person who avoids posting because of the english language. I got a PM last night from a fan of my postings who told me that he loves my posts but rarely posts b/c french is his first language.



Glad we settled that. I know abz-pete and cannot fathom how he could have been banned. The guy is a sheer gentleman, class act and a great golfer to top it off.

For the love of Pete, give it a rest you poo-poo disturber yourself. sundance_kid is NOT a kid and is playing you for a fool. Broken English...my broken butt! :rofl:

As for your French fan, send him on over to me and I'll have him speaking English in not time...in fact, he can speak to me in French through PM and I'll gladly translate.

[Fiji]

Do we have visits from Trolls? Of course!

I for one am staying.

You are not talking about THE TROLL are you? :D :p

[avidgolfer]

racmbs was just being a poopoo head (sorry for being politically incorrect, I apologize to any of you who actually have poopoo on your head ).

I was going to be offended :rolleyes: but now I feel muuuch better... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[abz-pete]

Hey Wayland,

After such an accolade, how could I not be one of your many fans too?? :D


Glad we settled that. I know abz-pete and cannot fathom how he could have been banned. The guy is a sheer gentleman, class act and a great golfer to top it off.

[Fiji]

Thank you for kind words. I am fan of you post as well.:)

I am a fan of racmbs and big shooter's posts but would never confess..Ever!
Too bad that Big Shooter's favorite team is Everton....shocking really

[sundance_kid]

For the love of Pete, give it a rest you poo-poo disturber yourself. sundance_kid is NOT a kid and is playing you for a fool. Broken English...my broken butt! :rofl:

As for your French fan, send him on over to me and I'll have him speaking English in not time...in fact, he can speak to me in French through PM and I'll gladly translate.

your critisim is dishertening

[wayland]

For the love of Pete, give it a rest you poo-poo disturber yourself. sundance_kid is NOT a kid and is playing you for a fool. Broken English...my broken butt! :rofl:

As for your French fan, send him on over to me and I'll have him speaking English in not time...in fact, he can speak to me in French through PM and I'll gladly translate.

Hey, play nice. We have a new user to replace kathryn's orchard. Kid or not, does it matter? Are you playing rac muscle backs? Playing me or not, the guy hasn't done anything to warrant this suspicion.

[Shake99]

Shuddup!!! you have fans?

I am just hoping for groupies.

Don't you mean gropies :rofl:

[The Troll]

I feel like walking in the high roller room in Bellagio and can't identify the sucker.

He's the one with the fish hook in his mouth. :cool:

You are not talking about THE TROLL are you? :D :p

They're always talking about HIM....mind you, there isn't much work for a troll on this board with so many others doing the heavy lifting. :rofl:

[golfnguru]

I will not tip again.

OH OH another Scotsman.

Pelese forgiv my not great englosh and bad tiping. I am embarsed. [

How can you spell English incorrectly and expect this charade to work. You should be embarsed.

I see you have already tiped another couple of messages. Stop wasting our time with this crap.

[racmbs]

Hey, play nice. We have a new user to replace kathryn's orchard. Kid or not, does it matter? Are you playing rac muscle backs? Playing me or not, the guy hasn't done anything to warrant this suspicion.

I always play nice, but can sniff out poo-poo very quickly. ;)

I'll publicly apologize if proven wrong, until then....it's an adult playing games.

your critisim is dishertening

em sry, didnt mean to hurt yuor felings.

i apoligize.

[Hombre Lefty]

I'm not sure what forums the original poster frequents, but I've been on boards of different types since 1994, and the kind of behaviour we're talking about has been present on pretty much every one i've ever see. And there's a simple reason. If I'm in a restaurant and having a discussion, i'm unlikely to have someone come up and scream at me and put me down. This is because of many things, but primarily that most people won't be belligerent or overly rude to you to your face, or in your presence where there might be direct consequences - embarassment, a fight, awkwardness, etc. Online, people are hiding behind a convenient facade of a computer screen, free to yell, taunt and do all the things that would be social taboos any other place.

If you think of it, it's not much different from how people act on the highways. Separated by a layer of glass and steel from other motorists and not required to look you in the eye, people do incredibly rude and aggressive things to one another that they would never do in, say a supermarket.

i remember reading something one time from a philosopher (cant remember which one, if anyone knows please tell me, it's annoying me) who explained it pretty neatly :

"a man's true character isn't revealed by what he does in public, but rather in what he does when nobody is looking"

people are just revealing their true selves online... I wouldn't be surprised if the people who go nuts online and try to pick fights do so simply because they could never see themselves doing it in real life (but want to)

[landlord]

No doubt, people type things they'd never say. The Internet has a cocoon effect with probably more upside than downside, which is not to say there's not plenty of downside.

FWIW, since Al Gore invented the Internet, I haven't frequented any Internet bulletin board or chat-type room that didn't have this kind of stuff going on. It ain't right but it is common.

Before I say something that might be taken as derogatory, I always try to ask myself if I could then face this person on the first tee tomorrow morning.

One thing that puzzles me is how so many people think their opinions are actually worth something. They are worth exactly what we paid for them.

[Leftygolfer30]

I always play nice, but can sniff out poo-poo very quickly. ;)

All hail to the official TGN poo-poo sniffer! :thumbs_up

I bow down to your unparalleled poo-poo sniffing abilites! :eek:

[golfingoalie]

All hail to the official TGN poo-poo sniffer! :thumbs_up

I bow down to your unparalleled poo-poo sniffing abilites! :eek:

Is there a difference between being able to sniff out poo-poo and being full of it :eek:

:rofl:

[Leftygolfer30]

Is there a difference between being able to sniff out poo-poo and being full of it :eek:

:rofl:

In Scott's case....










NO! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[hamiltonhacker]

No doubt, people type things they'd never say. The Internet has a cocoon effect with probably more upside than downside, which is not to say there's not plenty of downside. One thing that puzzles me is how so many people think their opinions are actually worth something. They are worth exactly what we paid for them.

Landlord's first point is well taken. If anyone remembers the CB Radio craze in the '70's you saw the same thing. Proplr sheltered behind a "handle" would behave and say things in a manner they would never do or say in public.

In regards to his second point also agree, it's kind of like talk radio, which is based on the mistaken assumption that the average person has somrthing worthwhile to say:hush:. Yes I know that's elitist, but so be it.:eek:

[luv2golow]

Ronny for the Fall Classic let me know if you will need any prizes...











...I will call Swain for you :D

You are a ninny. That's right. I said it. 2XL in the house.....:rofl:

.



em sry, didnt mean to hurt yuor felings.

i apoligize.

I can't even begin to explain how funny that is....:rofl:

[racmbs]

Is there a difference between being able to sniff out poo-poo and being full of it :eek:

:rofl:

Bring that big-talk to the golf course this weekend, Sally.

Leftygolfer30...what's going on with NP man? You get a time so that Jay and Gerry-Atric can play too?

[Leftygolfer30]

Leftygolfer30...what's going on with NP man? You get a time so that Jay and Gerry-Atric can play too?

I'm working on it Scotty!

[Big Shooter]

Personally I don't like the negativity and pessimism coming from a lot of posts about golf course layouts, shape, bad starters, mediocre service...etc.
Too sunny and hot...too cold and raining...too much aeriation....dry greens...wet greens...

I think this forum should be more about the game itself, the friendships that you make from here and the fun that you have joking with these same friends. Lately...and I mean in the past 2 months...if it's not bad course review it will be war between 2-3 members. Can we have more GOLF discussions and less of...ClubLink is not good enough...Golf North or Kaneff golf also are bad.....RCGA couldn't be more terrible with their pick for the Open...ETC......wow...so much pessimism
Other than that I like it here:D Some good guys...some good times....some good scores.
Toast for everyone who writes positive and bright posts....and have a good sense of humor....
Cheers:cool:

Oh, like CNN, CTV, CBC and all the "GOOD NEWS" stories!? :confused: ;)


Too bad that Big Shooter's favorite team is Everton....shocking really


Go Reading! (better?) ;)

[golfingoalie]

Bring that big-talk to the golf course this weekend, Sally.

Leftygolfer30...what's going on with NP man? You get a time so that Jay and Gerry-Atric can play too?

I can't play Saturday and play hockey Sunday at 9:30 am...so anything after noon on Sunday and I am very interested.

[JEBS]

Go Reading! (better?) ;)

Anything is better then supporting Chel(Ski) right now. I have never been a huge fan of Jose M. but darn he was a good coach.. two premierships in a row then second place..then good bye!!

Glory Glory Man United!!

[Big Shooter]

Glory Glory Man United!!

...and The Habs, and The Yankees, and The Patriots.... :rolleyes: :hush:

[Bellyhungry]

No doubt, people type things they'd never say. The Internet has a cocoon effect with probably more upside than downside, which is not to say there's not plenty of downside.

FWIW, since Al Gore invented the Internet, I haven't frequented any Internet bulletin board or chat-type room that didn't have this kind of stuff going on. It ain't right but it is common.

Before I say something that might be taken as derogatory, I always try to ask myself if I could then face this person on the first tee tomorrow morning.

One thing that puzzles me is how so many people think their opinions are actually worth something. They are worth exactly what we paid for them.

Great 'opinion'....

On a side note, with Gore having invented the internet and now leading the charge to save the environment - two rather huge feats, I find him looking more and more like Clark Kent. Could Gore actually be Superman?

[golfnguru]

Anything is better then supporting Chel(Ski) right now. I have never been a huge fan of Jose M. but darn he was a good coach.. two premierships in a row then second place..then good bye!!

Glory Glory Man United!!



There's not a team like the Glasgow Rangers, no not one and there never shall be one.

[bigbertha]

How did this ranting thread become the English Premier League thread?:rofl:

[golfingoalie]

How did this ranting thread become the English Premier League thread?:rofl:

wait another 2 pages and it will be another Leafs/Sens thread ;)

[jayda]

I start a new thread about golf :shhh: (President Cup), please support! :help: :D :rofl:

[davevandyk]

wait another 2 pages and it will be another Leafs/Sens thread ;)

why wait... Leafs SUCK :shhh::shhh:

[Bellyhungry]

why wait... Leafs SUCK :shhh::shhh:

And the Sens swallow....

[Big Shooter]

There's not a team like the Glasgow Rangers, no not one and there never shall be one.

I am in agreement with you there, have also been a life-long Rangers-fan (which means I should be a Liverpool-fan, but it didn't turn out that way!) ;)

Celtic sucks!!!

[xander.uk]

I am a fan of racmbs and big shooter's posts but would never confess..Ever!
Too bad that Big Shooter's favorite team is Everton....shocking really


uhmmmm i am a season ticket holder at goodison :hush:

[Big Shooter]

uhmmmm i am a season ticket holder at goodison :hush:

I like this guy!!! ;)

[racmbs]

I think you should have classified the reason for deleting sundance_kids last post as an attempt at "spelling" :rofl:

nwo I ma getting bcka to wrk so lev me alne ples.

[nearace]

I think you should have classified the reason for deleting sundance_kids last post as an attempt at "spelling" :rofl:

nwo I ma getting bcka to wrk so lev me alne ples.waiting for my attempt at swearing?pm sent

[Pingnut]

waiting for my attempt at swearing?pm sent

Wasn't you nearace - was the kid you quoted... :D Easier to delete than edit.

[Fiji]

uhmmmm i am a season ticket holder at goodison :hush:

If you find good deal on tickets for Old Trafford I'll buy them right away;)

[nearace]

Wasn't you nearace - was the kid you quoted... :D Easier to delete than edit.thanks dont like the foul language on this site;)

[racmbs]

thanks dont like the foul language on this site;)

So.....then that should apply when you are on the golf course too, no? :D

[nearace]

So.....then that should apply when you are on the golf course too, no? :Dyes if all my shots are great,lol,I have all girls in my family so I try hard no to use that language,but I am not perfect and do slip up at times:(

[Grass Roots Tour]

Is that a breach of forum rules I see beside that penguins head, you bass turd ? :p

Wheres a forum cop when you need one ? :rolleyes:

[racmbs]

Is that a breach of forum rules I see beside that penguins head, you bass turd ? :p

Wheres a forum cop when you need one ? :rolleyes:

Nope...:D

[Leftygolfer30]

So.....then that should apply when you are on the golf course too, no? :D

...or in the clubhouse post round... :D

[Pingnut]

And this my fellow TGN'rs is why the MOD's here get such a bad rap. If you find the job of modding to hard then give it up.
RR

Give me a break.

[nearace]

...or in the clubhouse post round... :Dhow about everyday life

[Biffm1]

This is sad, but I'm probably on better behaviour on the course (in terms of the language I use) than I ever am professionally. Unless I miss a 3 footer for par / birdie ...

[Grass Roots Tour]

This is sad, but I'm probably on better behaviour on the course (in terms of the language I use) than I ever am professionally. Unless I miss a 3 footer for par / birdie ...


I never use profanity. :rolleyes:

[xander.uk]

If you find good deal on tickets for Old Trafford I'll buy them right away;)

Your not from Manchester are you?

Asking a scouser to buy tickets for Old trafford is highly amusing :D

[Fiji]

Your not from Manchester are you?

Asking a scouser to buy tickets for Old trafford is highly amusing :D

I have some family there and I liked Man U since I was a kid:p
There is always a second chance right?:-)) After Phil Chisnall in 1964 going to Liverpool. I can call you a friend now:rolleyes:
Cheers

[Avid]

Glory Glory Man United!!

Man U vs. Roma 1:0 GLORY, GLORY

Don't pay attention to xander.uk and Big Shooter:D They don't know what they are missing:rolleyes: I like Everton....just a bit