View Full Version : Try this: the Proper "Wrist Set" on your backswing
MyGolfster
Sep 28, 2007, 05:21 PM
This will work I promise you
To feel the proper set for you, hold the club as you would with your left hand (if you are a righty). Then, with your right hand, grab your left forearm just below your wrist with your thumb on top of your left forearm. Put yourself in a good setup position and make a backswing to the half way – three quarters position and allow your left wrist to “set” as you take it back.
At the half way position, the butt-end of the grip should be pointing down towards the ground and you will find the club in a perfect “set” position.
The reason for this is because in order for your left wrist to support the club on its own, the club must be in a position that is lightest and easiest to hold, and on plane!
This position of your arm, club, and wrist is a key point in your backswing. If you can pass through this position on your backswing and maintain the same angle of your left wrist and club during transition, your swing will become more consistent.
If you are a lefty, switch the words left and right.
If you wish for some images, let me know.
Cheers
nearace
Sep 28, 2007, 05:44 PM
This will work I promise you
To feel the proper set for you, hold the club as you would with your left hand (if you are a righty). Then, with your right hand, grab your left forearm just below your wrist with your thumb on top of your left forearm. Put yourself in a good setup position and make a backswing to the half way – three quarters position and allow your left wrist to “set” as you take it back.
At the half way position, the butt-end of the grip should be pointing down towards the ground and you will find the club in a perfect “set” position.
The reason for this is because in order for your left wrist to support the club on its own, the club must be in a position that is lightest and easiest to hold, and on plane!
This position of your arm, club, and wrist is a key point in your backswing. If you can pass through this position on your backswing and maintain the same angle of your left wrist and club during transition, your swing will become more consistent.
If you are a lefty, switch the words left and right.
If you wish for some images, let me know.
CheersI would like to se the images if possible.thanks
racmbs
Sep 28, 2007, 06:30 PM
Yeah, no advertising from this guy, ever. :rolleyes:
Biffm1
Sep 28, 2007, 06:37 PM
Yeah, no advertising from this guy, ever. :rolleyes:
The award for the 2nd best response this week goes to........RACMBS :D
nearace
Sep 28, 2007, 07:30 PM
The award for the 2nd best response this week goes to........RACMBS :Dwho had the number 1 spot?
Biffm1
Sep 28, 2007, 08:27 PM
who had the number 1 spot?
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nearace
Sep 28, 2007, 10:49 PM
yes that was rather funny:rofl:
MyGolfster
Oct 5, 2007, 05:50 PM
Here are the requested images, hope they help!
landlord
Oct 5, 2007, 06:09 PM
Is it just me, or is that not "above the wrist"? :confused:
nearace
Oct 5, 2007, 06:47 PM
Is it just me, or is that not "above the wrist"? :confused:yes it is above the wrist:) thanks for the pics maybe next time a video of your swing?
hamiltonhacker
Oct 5, 2007, 08:23 PM
Quite Frnakly, I just don't get it.
nearace
Oct 5, 2007, 09:17 PM
Quite Frnakly, I just don't get it.I think that the point is without a proper wrist cock you will just be swinging with the arms and not alot of power is generated.and his pics show one way of showing if a proper wrist cock is achieved.
Weightshift
Oct 6, 2007, 01:25 PM
Then, with your right hand, grab your left forearm just below your wrist with your thumb on top of your left forearm.
There is no need to do this in order to set the left wrist. The only possible reason that I can think of would be to emulate "extensor action" ala "The Golfing Machine" where the right wrist "flying wedge" maintains a straight left arm.
Put yourself in a good setup position and make a backswing to the half way – three quarters position and allow your left wrist to “set” as you take it back.
Better to set the wristcock before you get to the 9.00 o'clock (half way) position, else you'll tend to overrun this position, if this was your intention.
At the half way position, the butt-end of the grip should be pointing down towards the ground and you will find the club in a perfect “set” position. The reason for this is because in order for your left wrist to support the club on its own, the club must be in a position that is lightest and easiest to hold, and on plane!
The 'lightest and easiest to hold' would be if the shaft was perpendicular to the ground, a condition that never occurs in the golf swing.
To ensure that the shaft is on plane remind yourself that "the shaft should be either parallel to the target line or pointing at it". Stick a tee in the end of the grip and ensure that it is pointing at the ball at the 9.00 position.
This position of your arm, club, and wrist is a key point in your backswing.
There is a danger that a beginner reading these words, might believe this. The swing has to be fluid. It is not a collection of fixed positions. It is alive, smooth and with tempo.
I would suggest that you practise swinging from the address position to e.g. the 9.00 position. First one hand then the other, then both -- at your own tempo. Move both your chest and hips together (no coiling of the shoulders against the hips) arms in front of the chest at all times (as you would in a chip shot), finishing in a classic full finish.
If you can pass through this position on your backswing and maintain the same angle of your left wrist and club during transition, your swing will become more consistent.
Not true! Physically trying to maintain the wristcock introduces tension in the forearms, inhibits release and causes plane changes.
MyGolfster
Apr 10, 2008, 03:36 PM
There is no need to do this in order to set the left wrist. The only possible reason that I can think of would be to emulate "extensor action" ala "The Golfing Machine" where the right wrist "flying wedge" maintains a straight left arm.
Better to set the wristcock before you get to the 9.00 o'clock (half way) position, else you'll tend to overrun this position, if this was your intention.
The 'lightest and easiest to hold' would be if the shaft was perpendicular to the ground, a condition that never occurs in the golf swing.
To ensure that the shaft is on plane remind yourself that "the shaft should be either parallel to the target line or pointing at it". Stick a tee in the end of the grip and ensure that it is pointing at the ball at the 9.00 position.
There is a danger that a beginner reading these words, might believe this. The swing has to be fluid. It is not a collection of fixed positions. It is alive, smooth and with tempo.
I would suggest that you practise swinging from the address position to e.g. the 9.00 position. First one hand then the other, then both -- at your own tempo. Move both your chest and hips together (no coiling of the shoulders against the hips) arms in front of the chest at all times (as you would in a chip shot), finishing in a classic full finish.
Not true! Physically trying to maintain the wristcock introduces tension in the forearms, inhibits release and causes plane changes.
Just wanted to point out, here is a picture of Adam Scott. His club is perpendicular to the ground here; with a driver none the less.
Furthermore, amongst other things, this drill will give you a feeling of a how your top wrist will set so you dont have to physically try to do it in your swing. Nobody could play a good round of golf if they were constantly thinking about how much to cock their wrist.
This drill is simply meant to offer the feel of a better take-away. For example, if a player has a shut face half way back, they can do this drill, check if it is square, and try to feel the same position when hitting half-shots. It will train the muscles in the top hand that facilitate a square position.
Everyone should keep in mind, no drills are written in stone and ever will be. If it works for you it works for you, if it doesnt, it simply doesnt. If one teacher had all the answers, then only one golf pro would be in business. Do you think Butch gives the same advise as Leadbetter? Obviously not otherwise Else would not have switched coaches.
Zuggy
Apr 10, 2008, 05:04 PM
I look at my problem of allowing to much wrist cock which opens up the face and in combination of a death grip on the club causes a right slice. One of "my" ways was to eliminate completely the wrist cock and set the wrist with a back swing as far as I could go without generating any wrist cock seem to help my slice out the most. When I do a couple warm up swings before steeping onto the tee box I look to see if my left wrist has a slight bow out wards and no inward turn of the left hand to-wards my face. IMHO I see this for me to be a "small" aid in reminding me where my left wrist needs to be in the back swing. Please remember I am a 30 handicapper, but it seems to work for me. And Yes I am waiting for my instructor (Dean Spriddle) to come back from where ever he went.:D
imAnewbie
Apr 10, 2008, 05:10 PM
I think what he was trying to say is TRY to keep the left wrist flat. I usually break my wrist before then I always keep it flat and make sure it facing my target on the hit down position...
johnthegolfer
Apr 10, 2008, 06:25 PM
This will work I promise you
...The reason for this is because in order for your left wrist to support the club on its own, the club must be in a position that is lightest and easiest to hold, and on plane!
This position of your arm, club, and wrist is a key point in your backswing. If you can pass through this position on your backswing and maintain the same angle of your left wrist and club during transition, your swing will become more consistent.
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The part about the support of the club makes some sense - it is easier (and correct) to cock the wrist the way that you are showing (thumb up, wrist flat)...
However, this is definitely NOT on plane unless you have a completely vertical swing. Comparing your picture with that of Adam Scott - yes, his wrist is flat but he is definitely not holding the club up almost vertical (the "lioghtest and easiest hold", as you say). With such a vertical position as you reach the top of the swing it would be almost impossible not to throw the club forward at the transition, resulting in an out to in (slice) trajectory throught he ball.
I have heard of people suggesting a swing such as the one you are describing, with the exception of keeping the club ion the correct plane. I believe it is used to help students use their body to initiate the takeaway, to correct someone that starts to pull the club back with their hands before any body rotation.
Smully
Apr 11, 2008, 08:10 AM
I did a 26point chek, on my 27point list, & hit it in the lake,What was I thinkin.
:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: I did a 26,point chek,on my 27,point list, & hit it in the lake,What was I thinkin.:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: Quite Frnakly, I just don't get it.
Merlot
Apr 11, 2008, 08:45 AM
For me its all about getting 'set' at the top. I tend to get anxious and start my downswing before my wrists have 'set' and before the transfer of weight begins forward. When I complete my backswing and set in th eproper position, it's really hard to hit a poor shot.
Usually, if I hit balls with my eyes closed, the problem goes away. I can't see anything but I know that if I don't feel the 'set', I have no chance of coming back to the ball squarely so I always finish my backswing or maybe should say setting of wrists as length of back swing is not the key.
When I struggle at the range with the 'lefts', closing my eyes usually remedies the problem quite well.
Be confident and give it a try. It's not that difficult depending on your skill level. Nothing more then a 5 iron but works really well. Much past a five iron length causes me to lose connection with the head, lose confidence and usully not an A type quality shot.
There is a danger that a beginner reading these words, might believe this. The swing has to be fluid. It is not a collection of fixed positions. It is alive, smooth and with tempo.
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Not saying I disagree with you but have you ever seen Jim Mcleans swing broken down into about 12 parts or so? Can't remembr exactly. That was how he taught the swing to beginners and decent players alike. Right or wrong in some people eyes, the guy is well respected in the industry.
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