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Zuggy
Oct 16, 2007, 02:26 PM
Hi,
If you were here this summer you saw my thread 5i as far as my driver. Well this is the sequal.... I was on Th hole at Henderson Lake (Lethbridge), I was demoing a KC speed M OS and I though what a time to check out the distance. So I used my driver and got a typical push slice... So I was on the short stuff but not that far. Then I grabbed the 5w and letter rip. Well after all was done it was a straight and 2 yards behind my driver. As I have been having a real problem with my driver this year, and I have gotten allot of help from everyone here (Thanks). I am still baffled how I can hit farther than my driver with my 3w and just as far with my 5w. Swing generally the same... balls the same, just not sure why?
TourIQ
Oct 16, 2007, 03:27 PM
What is the marked loft of your driver? Maybe you need a high lofted driver. What trajectory do you get when you hit driver? What is your average drive with roll [wind neutral, on the flats]? A lot of good 450 to 460 cc drivers out there now in the 13 to 15 degree loft range. Maybe your driver is too heavy or too long. Check it.
Jaytee
Oct 16, 2007, 03:41 PM
My friend is in the same boat. He pretty much always hits his 5 wood instead of his driver. His 5 wood has more loft it goes straighter then his driver which he slices. A slice loses a lot of distance because of the side spin. If you can fix the slice and change that side spin to back spin, then it will probably go farther then your 5 wood.
MSJ76
Oct 16, 2007, 04:38 PM
If it is the exact same swing as your 5 wood (and you hit that straight? or with a fade/draw?) then it could be as simple as the shaft is not suited to your swing. If it's not the shaft (meaning your driver and 5 wood have the same shaft, same flex/kickpoint etc) there are some swing issues to resolve with your driver.
A push slice (ball starts right of the target and slices further right) means your club head is coming from the inside (which is good) but is continuing on that in to out path thru impact (so the ball starts to the right of the target because that's where the club head is going). In addition the slice is because the face is open to the path of the club head at impact.
I would first work to fix the slice part of the equation. Look at your grip (too weak with your driver?) as well as the ball position (too far back in your stance?). Once you can hit just a push (no additional slice) you'll see your distance increase. To eliminate the push part from there it is more or less just a timing thing. If you are 'trying' to hit the ball farther generally this will throw off timing (either your arms come thru too fast and you pull the ball, or in your case the body turns thru faster than the arms/hands . If you can get them all coming thru at the same time (which most likely will only happen at first if you slow down your swing) you should see that ball start to go much straighter.
Good Luck!
cldale
Oct 16, 2007, 04:38 PM
Agreed,
If I hit my driver straight and solid, I can carry 250 on a good day, maybe 25-30 yards roll. But if I slice, I end up 200yds down the course (and 25 yds off the fairway :)) The worst part is that the side-spin causes the ball to roll even further off course :(
Zuggy
Oct 16, 2007, 04:44 PM
What is the marked loft of your driver? Maybe you need a high lofted driver. What trajectory do you get when you hit driver? What is your average drive with roll [wind neutral, on the flats]? A lot of good 450 to 460 cc drivers out there now in the 13 to 15 degree loft range. Maybe your driver is too heavy or too long. Check it.
My Driver is a King Cobra 10.5*
If it is the exact same swing as your 5 wood (and you hit that straight? or with a fade/draw?) then it could be as simple as the shaft is not suited to your swing. If it's not the shaft (meaning your driver and 5 wood have the same shaft, same flex/kickpoint etc) there are some swing issues to resolve with your driver.
All three of my woods have the same King Cobra shaft in them.
A push slice (ball starts right of the target and slices further right) means your club head is coming from the inside (which is good) but is continuing on that in to out path thru impact (so the ball starts to the right of the target because that's where the club head is going). In addition the slice is because the face is open to the path of the club head at impact.
I would first work to fix the slice part of the equation. Look at your grip (too weak with your driver?) as well as the ball position (too far back in your stance?). Once you can hit just a push (no additional slice) you'll see your distance increase. To eliminate the push part from there it is more or less just a timing thing. If you are 'trying' to hit the ball farther generally this will throw off timing (either your arms come thru too fast and you pull the ball, or in your case the body turns thru faster than the arms/hands . If you can get them all coming thru at the same time (which most likely will only happen at first if you slow down your swing) you should see that ball start to go much straighter.
Good Luck!
Yes I have been working on my slice and it has improved to a off road slice to a gental fade slice.
LowPost42
Oct 16, 2007, 07:18 PM
To hit a push slice (and I've hit my fair share) you have to be fanning the face open like a mother****er - and not closing it again.
For the record, face angle trumps swing path when it comes to initial shot direction, and face angle in relation to swing path determines shot bending.
So for the push slice, the face is open to both target and path at impact.
The solution is that you either have to a) stop rolling the face open or b) shut it down hard before impact!
Zuggy
Oct 17, 2007, 12:04 PM
To hit a push slice (and I've hit my fair share) you have to be fanning the face open like a mother****er - and not closing it again.
For the record, face angle trumps swing path when it comes to initial shot direction, and face angle in relation to swing path determines shot bending.
So for the push slice, the face is open to both target and path at impact.
The solution is that you either have to a) stop rolling the face open or b) shut it down hard before impact!
Yah I was doing some practice last nigh in front of a mirror and I was trying to visualize at what point was I releasing my hands and closing the club face. So I am thinking that maybe I need to close a little sooner.
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