Shoulder Injury

[rbaker]

Has anyone here experianced a sore shoulder. It hurts me to reach back with my left arm, or up.
Some say "Rotator Cuff" for sure this is Golf related. Bad enough I have tennis elbow x 2. Now this.

Any idea how stubborn this one is for hanging on?

THanks,

RB

[Golftime]

My right shoulder has been sore for 4 or 5 months now as the result of throwing a ball too hard with no warmup. Actually it has been sore off and on for years but is just worse now. I'm going for annual physical soon and will get doctor to check it out along with Achilles tendon.
Seems to get better after rest but certain motions cause it to recur.

[nobdyhere]

this is the cause of a strained tendon within your shoulder. Basically it is inflamed and swollen from inproper warmup and over use. I experience it when i'm just on time for a tee and start out of the gate full throttle. The only way to fix this is to rest and ice every other 20 mins for a couple times a day. I also found creams like Icey Hot or A535 work pretty well for overnight application.

This is just a sign you need to work on stretching properly when warming up and just take it easy and ease into the game.

I hope this helps.

J

Has anyone here experianced a sore shoulder. It hurts me to reach back with my left arm, or up.
Some say "Rotator Cuff" for sure this is Golf related. Bad enough I have tennis elbow x 2. Now this.

Any idea how stubborn this one is for hanging on?

THanks,

RB

[hoganapexplus]

Sounds like rotator for sure. Icing after activity and warming up and stretching before are very important. You also need to do some strengthening exercises to prevent recurrence next year. Another good measure is some deep friction massage which hurts like a bugger but can move some of the inflamation and scar tissue out.

[Flamingo]

Had a sore shoulder for 3-4 months, the pseudo docs all diagnosed rotary cuff.

Finally went to my doctor, he gave me a shot of cortizone mixed with a bit of freezing.

Closest thing I've ever experienced to a miracle cure. It was just inflammed and the juice had me back swinging virtually immediately.

Moral: get it checked by a professional. Not by the on course doctors. :nono:

[cldale]

Sounds like rotator for sure. Icing after activity and warming up and stretching before are very important. You also need to do some strengthening exercises to prevent recurrence next year. Another good measure is some deep friction massage which hurts like a bugger but can move some of the inflamation and scar tissue out.

Always be carefull with your pre-exercise/round stretches though. A lot of recent research is finding that the occurance of injury is increase by static-stretching prior to exercise. Dynamic stretches (basically, light warm up exercise) reduces injury risk.

Proper resistance training is the key to preventing rotator cuff fatigue and injury. As an avid tennis player I start experiencing dead-shoulder towards the end of the seasons, where my service speed dropper noticably. I started doing light resistance work to strengthen my rc and found I didn't experience the same "dead" feeling again (and my serves got a little faster, which is nice).

[rbaker]

Thank You everyone.
After my doctors visit today it appears after tests it is the Muscle known as the Deltoid. So much better then a Rotary Cuff!
Need to keep that freaking back swing under control.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Deltoideus.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Deltoideus.png)

[JohnsonN]

After reading this i realize my long time shoulder injury just get better
I suffered the injury from motorcycle accident years back broke my left shoulder. now every time i swing the club on the back swing there's a crack sound go 2 times "crack crack" and the down swing would made the pop sound very freaky, I always freak out other people around the tee box, yes it's that loud, but not hurt though just stiff and tension that's all, usually it'd be gone on the back 9.

Now that sound would gone after 5 or 6 holes, or if i warm up enough it'd even go away faster, i don't know but i consider it's a good thing.

The bad thing is if i golf too much My right wrist (right hand)start to hurt (too much = a large bucket or 2 a day 7 days a week) is that normal?

[swingpure]

By your first description I also would have said rotator cuff. I went through pain for two years before I decided to something about it. I saw a physio person and it was fixed for a long time after two visits. This spring it came back after over use. I got golfer's elbow (tendonitis) shortly there after and it has protected my shoulder. I have had many phsyio appointments for the tendonitis over the entire summer and it still bothers me.

The pain from a rotator cuff can show up as a pain further down the arm. I actually though I had hurt my tricep muscle.

Good luck with your recovery. I will be working hard in the off season to get strength back in my left arm.

[rbaker]

The whole Time I was mis diagnosed by A GP. A ultra sound shows a small tear in the left rotary cuff. Here I am nearly 3 months later and in pain.
Hats of to the Golf Nuts in here who have correctly diagnosed me.
I think I will start to follow the icing..........


RB

[cldale]

The whole Time I was mis diagnosed by A GP. A ultra sound shows a small tear in the left rotary cuff. Here I am nearly 3 months later and in pain.
Hats of to the Golf Nuts in here who have correctly diagnosed me.
I think I will start to follow the icing..........
RB

rbaker,

I have had problems with my RC in the past, most recently manifested as "dead shoulder" which came from playing too much tennis without properly strengthening my RC.

What I did (that has eliminated the problem since) was twofold: I shut-down for the rest of the season (this happened in August, so I bit the bullet and lost 2 good months of tennis) and just rested the shoulder for about 6 weeks until I could move and stretch the shoulder without any discomfort and the shoulder felt "live" again.

The second step was to incorporate rotator cuff exercises into my daily fitness routine.

the end result is that shoulder problems are a thing of the past (except where I sleep funny on my shoulder and its a little sore for the morning). When I started playing tennis again I actually noticed (as did my opponents) a marked increase in my serve speeds.

[hogannut]

Get a can of soup, or a very light dumbell (no more than 3-5 lbs) and hold your arm straight out from your body at a 90 degree angle. Start doing little circles holding the soup or dumbell. Do 1-2 minutes in one direction and then reverse it. Great exercise for a rotator cuff. Be careful with this injury if you go back to soon you will be battling it all summer long. Trust me....I give you this "advise" based on persoanl experience.

[cldale]

Get a can of soup, or a very light dumbell (no more than 3-5 lbs) and hold your arm straight out from your body at a 90 degree angle. Start doing little circles holding the soup or dumbell. Do 1-2 minutes in one direction and then reverse it. Great exercise for a rotator cuff. Be careful with this injury if you go back to soon you will be battling it all summer long. Trust me....I give you this "advise" based on persoanl experience.

Absolutely agree, also from personal experience, if you rush this back you'll just postpone the inevitable, and you might do further harm.

Playing injured is NEVER a good idea. All it does is further aggravate the injury, breakdown your mechanics (in whatever sport) and likely cause "compensation" injuries as other parts of your body are suddenly picking up the slack, working in ways they aren't trained to do.

If you search on the intertron you can find all kinds of exercises to help. I am particular to using resistance bands myself, but a can of soup, very lightweight dumbell, book, all are usefull.

In any exercise you do, you want to keep the weight as light as possible, and do more reps. You're not trying to make the muscle "strong" in the "lift more weight" sense, you're trying to make it strong in an endurance sense, so it can properly support your shoulder joint without becoming fatigued.

[Mule56]

The whole Time I was mis diagnosed by A GP. A ultra sound shows a small tear in the left rotary cuff. Here I am nearly 3 months later and in pain.
Hats of to the Golf Nuts in here who have correctly diagnosed me.
I think I will start to follow the icing..........


RB

RB,
I'm going through the same thing right now except I have it in both shoulders. Get your self to phsyo. I am now up to 8 different exercises to strengthen not only the rotator cuff, but also the shoulder muscles and the supporting cast of muscle in that area. My phsyo folks tell me that baring any set back, I should be set to swing a club by the start of May.
Oh yeah the small circle exercise should be done be leaning over, keeping the back straight. and letting the arm hang like dead weight. Circle both ways and also the pendulum movement. Weight should not be added until your phsyo folks say so. How do I know, because I added weight before I should have and had a two weeks set back. I'm now following the rules and making no changes unless instructed to.
Mule

[rbaker]

I am going to a few Physio's two already. I'm not retaining a whole lot. I suppose I'd better Listen.

This happened in November would you all think April is too soon?

I found ICE had the best affect today above all.


RB

[goshawk]

Ice will help if the problem is inflamation. Conversely, heat will aggravate it more. If the problem isn't muscular, ice will give you some relief from the pain, but won't help at all internally. If it's in fact your rotator, get thee to a physio!!

[3whack]

1. Get to a sports doctor, or to a proper physiotherapist. Do this no matter what.

2. Keep your fingers crossed. I have suffered through tendonitis in my elbow, arthritis in my thumb and a rotator cuff injury. While the rc injury was by far more painful than the other two, I personally found that it had no impact on my golf swing (again, unlike the other two)...I guess it has to do with the mechanics of the golf swing as opposed to throwing a ball, lifting my arm, etc.

[rbaker]

I started the excersises tonight big time, under my wifes supervision.
And I have DR HO On HIGH.
THe ice sure did relieve the pain. I need to be on Speyside 1 by April 15th!

[Chambokl]

Hi,

This usually happens to people that works with their hands over their head. Could also happen playing sports, mostly throwing, swimming, tennis, ...

One of my friend had a sore shoulder for almost 2 years now. He couldn't put his right hand over his head. He just couldn't lift his arm. Lots of rest, some therapy, etc... he finally went for an MRI and they discovered that he has a small tear in the Supraspinatus tendon. He has to see the doctor Thursday and see what happen. Sometime exercise could fix it but for him (2 years) of pain, surgery will probably be needed.

Usually it will happen to your dominant arm and if you use your arm a lot they will perform surgery.

I am no doctor but have been around sport so long you learn about a lot of different injury.

Good luck....

[laps]

I had a rotator cuff injury a few years ago from snowboarding. I went to physio and did everything the physiotherapist told me to do in between sessions. At the end of the treatment I felt that it had not improved, but the physiotherapist assured me that I was fine. The pain was a result of him giving me increasingly difficult exercises. A few days after my last session I was as good as new and I have not had any trouble with my shoulder in the four years since.

[rbaker]

YES SIR, that is what I am counting on- Day two of excersises. I feel better already- as I type with ICE covering my left shoulder.

I had a rotator cuff injury a few years ago from snowboarding. I went to physio and did everything the physiotherapist told me to do in between sessions. At the end of the treatment I felt that it had not improved, but the physiotherapist assured me that I was fine. The pain was a result of him giving me increasingly difficult exercises. A few days after my last session I was as good as new and I have not had any trouble with my shoulder in the four years since.

[sharkhark]

I hurt my shoulder in my twenties weight lifting. I was self educated (and not very well at that). I did the exact same routine almost every day and with no rest.
Of course I now know to mix things up regularly and the importance of rest in building muscles.
Problem is back in my twenties I found out I had black and blue bruises that were blood pooling beneath the surface on my rear Infraspinatus and my humerus. They sent me to physio but it didn't reall help and over the years got worse and worse. I now cannot hold my right arm above my head to paint, it goes numb in less than a minute.

So make sure whatever is wrong with you is dealt with quickly and that all their suggestions are incorporated right away so this becomes a blip in your life and not a permanent weakness like I have.

PS yes when my buddies on rare occasion beat me, this is my excuse!

[rbaker]

Thanks. I'm trying, and appreciate the concern.

I hurt my shoulder in my twenties weight lifting. I was self educated (and not very well at that). I did the exact same routine almost every day and with no rest.
Of course I now know to mix things up regularly and the importance of rest in building muscles.
Problem is back in my twenties I found out I had black and blue bruises that were blood pooling beneath the surface on my rear Infraspinatus and my humerus. They sent me to physio but it didn't reall help and over the years got worse and worse. I now cannot hold my right arm above my head to paint, it goes numb in less than a minute.

So make sure whatever is wrong with you is dealt with quickly and that all their suggestions are incorporated right away so this becomes a blip in your life and not a permanent weakness like I have.

PS yes when my buddies on rare occasion beat me, this is my excuse!

[rbaker]

I take it this was harder at night- I think I'm making progress until I roll over on my left side at night:help:

[Bing]

rbaker,

...
The second step was to incorporate rotator cuff exercises into my daily fitness routine.
...

Keep doing the exercises once you get better. This will help it from reaccuring.

If you want some really good rotator cuff exercise, just give me a shout.

[rbaker]

Thanks, good point to keep it up. I hope I can get there.
Currently I'm using a rubber band sitting down and rowing backwards kinda thing. bicep 10 lb lifts.... nothing to heavy- its still there and evidentally better but totally noticeable.
:(
RB

Keep doing the exercises once you get better. This will help it from reaccuring.

If you want some really good rotator cuff exercise, just give me a shout.

[Bing]

Rowing and curls don't work the RC muscles. Remember, the RC consists of 4 small muscles that stablize the shoulder joint during rotation movements like throwing, swimming and the golf swing.

[The Troll]

Bing's correct, the exercises I gave you in that link are the only ones that, specifically, work the RC muscles. Working the bigger muscles around the RC will only make a serious problem worse.

[WhiteStakes]

After quickly reading through this thread, it appears those of you with shoulder injuries have not had, or perhaps just haven't stated, a formal diagnosis. The recommended treatment is very different for the various types of injuries but in most (perhaps all) cases continuing the activity that causes pain, deep stretching, or strength training before the injury heals will prolong or prevent full recovery. This is generally true for most injuries and if you have the time you are better off being cautious about resuming activity. Professional athletes have a lot on the line which is why they'll get cortisone injections even though their injuries have not fully healed. It's surprising that your doctors/physiotherapists are recommending any strength training while you are still feeling any pain. A second opinion might be in order.

The easiest injury to diagnose is physical damage (e.g tears) to the bones, tendons, or muscles because the pain would be acute and the damage would show up on an ultrasound. Since you've been to your doctors, they would have found this so it is not likely the case. Seious tears could require surgery or prolonged periods of recovery.

You may have just pulled or strained a muscle. This is not serious and should heal within about 5 days and won't likely recurr unless a new injury is sustained. If the injury is to the larger deltoid muscles you will likely feel soreness or tenderness when you press on your shoulder. Just rest and don't stretch or do any strength training until it heals... a few days after you feel no more pain should do it but use your judgement.

The hardest to diagnose (but the most likely injury) is tendonitis/bursitis because there is no obvious damage and ultrasounds can not 'see' inflamation. The tendons normally slide freely as you move your shoulder but inflamation (from an injury or overuse) restricts the movement and you will feel pain when you move your shoulder. You might feel shooting pains along your shoulder towards your neck. Continuing to move your shoulder causes further inflammation and further restriction causing the pain to get worse and so on. The treatment is rest. Stop the activity causing the inflamation completely for a couple of weeks. When the inflammation subsides your tendons will heal and return to normal. Anti-inflammatory medication (Advil) will speed up recovery because it will reduce the inflammation faster. If you have chronic recurring inflamation then your doctor might prescribe an daily anti-inflammatory like Celebrex.

After full recovery the inflammation should not spontaneously reoccur and you can then begin stretching and strength training to prevent re-injury. Have your golf pro look at your swing to see if you are jamming your shoulder during the swing. Hitting shots even a little bit fat on golf mats or hard turf will cause hand/wrist/elbow/shoulder injuries but that's not likely an issue for the better players here... for the rest of us it's something to be aware of.

This turned out to be a much longer post than I had intended but I hope it's helpful. There are plenty of sports injury web-sites for more information and descriptions of other types of injuries.

[VBall]

Thanks WhiteStakes. I've had a right shoulder injury from my sport days in University. Its been acting up and I've just shrugged it off as tendonitis. I think its time for me to go check it out.

RB, hope your shoulder is getting better!

[prov1guy]

I would recommend seeing a sports specialist DC (chiro) or MD to get any shoulder issue properly diagnosed. All replies concerning ice/stretching/exercise are all valid but lets remember this should be supervised or guided by a professional.

In addition seek I would recommend seeking out a practitioner who performs Active Release THerapy which is a specialized form of manual treatment that is highly effective for shoulder injuries.

Cortisone is a whole other issue...but stay away, it is like putting a band aid on a cut. Very temporary. Sure it will make it feel better but whatever the dysfunction is or injury that exists is still there. COrtisone doesn't fix the root cause of the problem.

My 2 cents, as a health professional.

[rbaker]

Gentleman,

Thank You. I have had a diagnoisis. From GP , to Ultra Sound, to a specialist.
They all agree its a small tear in the rotar cuff. I also have been to physiotherapy, he feels its because of my posture that led up to it all.

Time will tell, its better, but oooh bouy do I feel it at night.

RB

I would recommend seeing a sports specialist DC (chiro) or MD to get any shoulder issue properly diagnosed. All replies concerning ice/stretching/exercise are all valid but lets remember this should be supervised or guided by a professional.

In addition seek I would recommend seeking out a practitioner who performs Active Release THerapy which is a specialized form of manual treatment that is highly effective for shoulder injuries.

Cortisone is a whole other issue...but stay away, it is like putting a band aid on a cut. Very temporary. Sure it will make it feel better but whatever the dysfunction is or injury that exists is still there. COrtisone doesn't fix the root cause of the problem.

My 2 cents, as a health professional.

[rbaker]

PHYSIO, SMIZIO this isn't going away.

[freddielinkster]

Sorry this one is long but worth a read - the advice re getting a formal diagnosis is right on but if you want to continue golfing and work through this I would strongly suggest that unless your family doctor is "sports" oriented you go to a really good sports/medicine/physio clinic - I've had classic rotator cuff (left shoulder) off and on over the years since university / baseball injury and for the most part have been able to treat in the standard way (rest/ice/ibuprofen/moderate strengthening exercises) and get through it - couple of seasons ago the same thing (or at least I thought) cropped up - my doctor who is an excellent family doctor but not that sports minded diagnosed as per above, recommended the usual take time off, etc. etc. - my son is a nationally ranked pairs figure skater - he and co-skaters at this level for the most part can't afford much time off -a couple of days at the most if it's not broken and then it's physio, training, physio etc. and they work through most injuries successfully - I went to where he recommended and they diagnosed not rotator cuff like my doctor had, but an inflamed left shoulder tendon which was aggravated by any overhead movement as the tendon was rubbing against the shoulder bone which is natural but not good when it's inflamed - they attacked the problem with ultrasound, heat, cold, a neat vibrating machine and developed a set of strengthening exercises all which involved not lifting any weight above shoulder level since that contributed to the problem and I had been doing that as part of my self rehab - so overhead pressing moves with weights were out the window, side and back dumbell raises and upright rows to shoulder height only made up the new program and after 4 days off golf I was able to resume and after 3 weeks physio treatments of 3 times per week I was 100% and have been able to play 100 rounds + the past two seasons with no problems as long as I remain faithful to the strengthening exercises - I've not needed to go back to physio since and when I feel a bit of soreness it's usually due to slacking off in the training area - my son's advice has saved me many sore days and much time off golf - true sports medicine is amazing when it comes to what they can do with real athletes and how they can work through injury -

[rbaker]

Very interesting. So a regular physio therapist isn't the best bet, but a sports therapist. I need to look into this. Unfortunately now we have exhausted our allotment from our plan. Where is your therapist located?

Thanks RB

Sorry this one is long but worth a read - the advice re getting a formal diagnosis is right on but if you want to continue golfing and work through this I would strongly suggest that unless your family doctor is "sports" oriented you go to a really good sports/medicine/physio clinic - I've had classic rotator cuff (left shoulder) off and on over the years since university / baseball injury and for the most part have been able to treat in the standard way (rest/ice/ibuprofen/moderate strengthening exercises) and get through it - couple of seasons ago the same thing (or at least I thought) cropped up - my doctor who is an excellent family doctor but not that sports minded diagnosed as per above, recommended the usual take time off, etc. etc. - my son is a nationally ranked pairs figure skater - he and co-skaters at this level for the most part can't afford much time off -a couple of days at the most if it's not broken and then it's physio, training, physio etc. and they work through most injuries successfully - I went to where he recommended and they diagnosed not rotator cuff like my doctor had, but an inflamed left shoulder tendon which was aggravated by any overhead movement as the tendon was rubbing against the shoulder bone which is natural but not good when it's inflamed - they attacked the problem with ultrasound, heat, cold, a neat vibrating machine and developed a set of strengthening exercises all which involved not lifting any weight above shoulder level since that contributed to the problem and I had been doing that as part of my self rehab - so overhead pressing moves with weights were out the window, side and back dumbell raises and upright rows to shoulder height only made up the new program and after 4 days off golf I was able to resume and after 3 weeks physio treatments of 3 times per week I was 100% and have been able to play 100 rounds + the past two seasons with no problems as long as I remain faithful to the strengthening exercises - I've not needed to go back to physio since and when I feel a bit of soreness it's usually due to slacking off in the training area - my son's advice has saved me many sore days and much time off golf - true sports medicine is amazing when it comes to what they can do with real athletes and how they can work through injury -

[freddielinkster]

Mine is King's Cross in Brampton - and you won't believe how many non athletes you'll see there (including me at one time) - my wife has been to another physiotherapist with moderate success but they weren't big on the exercise - these people are good - also covered by my plan - I'm not sure what the difference is but I've seen my son compete through a knee injury and sprained ankle when not competing was not an option missing only a couple of days from the ice and then working through it with their help -

[rbaker]

Is this it?
King's Cross Walk-In Clinic

17 Kings Cross
Brampton, ON L6T 3V5

(905) 799-9144




Mine is King's Cross in Brampton - and you won't believe how many non athletes you'll see there (including me at one time) - my wife has been to another physiotherapist with moderate success but they weren't big on the exercise - these people are good - also covered by my plan - I'm not sure what the difference is but I've seen my son compete through a knee injury and sprained ankle when not competing was not an option missing only a couple of days from the ice and then working through it with their help -

[Bing]

if you're downtown, I recommend the Dynamic Conditioning Centres (http://www.dccentres.ca/).

[cornerstone]

Has anyone here experianced a sore shoulder. It hurts me to reach back with my left arm, or up.
Some say "Rotator Cuff" for sure this is Golf related. Bad enough I have tennis elbow x 2. Now this.

Any idea how stubborn this one is for hanging on?

THanks,

RB


oh yeah....I thought my golfing days were over.The second doctor I went to see said it was tendonitis.It was so bad I could hardly move in bed.What i did was exercise it gently with 5 lb weights and it went away.The doctor did not suggest this I did on my own.He said stop swinging the club( which I also did for 2 weeks) and it will go away.
I should say the first doctor I saw said rotator cuff and gave me a prescription for anti -inflammatories which I threw in the garbage.

[freddielinkster]

http://www.kingscrossphysio.com/index.html

http://www.kingscrossphysio.com/images/layout/h01_logo.jpg

Here's the link - it's on Vodden -

[rbaker]

Thanks Very much. It has gotten a lot better now finally.
I have an appointment for a Cortizone injection on Friday- should I? Just to seal the deal witht he inflammation?

RB



http://www.kingscrossphysio.com/index.html

http://www.kingscrossphysio.com/images/layout/h01_logo.jpg

Here's the link - it's on Vodden -

[rbaker]

Hi Guys,

Is Swimming okay for this injury? Its still there after a year, not as bad. Its there though!

RB

[Bing]

No freestyle/front crawl, butterfly, backstroke. Breaststroke is ok if it's pain free.

[caddishack]

Has anyone here experianced a sore shoulder. It hurts me to reach back with my left arm, or up.
Some say "Rotator Cuff" for sure this is Golf related. Bad enough I have tennis elbow x 2. Now this.

Any idea how stubborn this one is for hanging on?

THanks,

RB

WOW, Unbelievable!!! I have had soreness in my right shoulder for the last 5 or 6 weeks. I had no idea where it came from and thought it was from sleeping on that side. I try not to anymore but it does get sore during a rd and slowly my drives get worse and worse. That last outing at RW last Saturday was when I realized that it had an impact on my game. I also have tendonitous in my left elbow which last year was a sort of tennis elbow and then it healed, now this year it is in a different spot and probably more of a golfers elbow. The combination of Golf and lifting some pretty heavy rolls of printable material at work has caused it and it is very difficult to avoid reinjuring on a daily basis.

[rbaker]

Oh, no..I cant believe I bought a 1 yr pass. I was swimming front crawl and it hurt. Your right Breast stroke doesnt hurt but I dont like to swim like that. Looks like I have no chice, gotta do something in the off season and swimming is it.
Thanks,

RB

No freestyle/front crawl, butterfly, backstroke. Breaststroke is ok if it's pain free.

I have had these issues for so long now.
As I type Tennis Elbow is flaring up. As for the rotater cuff go to your GP and ask for an Ultra Sound and see if they can detect a tear. Unfortunalty the cold weather and golf are often contributors to the tear. The tear could have been there for years and finally get worse.
It hurts more when you stop golfing.. If you note that and its really sore when you roll over at night- get to the doctor.

RB

WOW, Unbelievable!!! I have had soreness in my right shoulder for the last 5 or 6 weeks. I had no idea where it came from and thought it was from sleeping on that side. I try not to anymore but it does get sore during a rd and slowly my drives get worse and worse. That last outing at RW last Saturday was when I realized that it had an impact on my game. I also have tendonitous in my left elbow which last year was a sort of tennis elbow and then it healed, now this year it is in a different spot and probably more of a golfers elbow. The combination of Golf and lifting some pretty heavy rolls of printable material at work has caused it and it is very difficult to avoid reinjuring on a daily basis.

[rmunding]

May 200 rounds a year is to much for the human body.

Rick

[Bing]

Oh, no..I cant believe I bought a 1 yr pass. I was swimming front crawl and it hurt. Your right Breast stroke doesnt hurt but I dont like to swim like that. Looks like I have no chice, gotta do something in the off season and swimming is it.
Thanks,

RB

If you want to stay in the pool, you can try pool running. Put on a float belt and run in deep end. I know it's not much fun, but it's safe for your shoulders, knees and ankles and a great cardio workout.

[rbaker]

Thanks Bing, I've never seen that but it sounds like a back up plan.:confused:
I did about 25 laps breast stroke today and it was fine, its the overhead motion of the crawl that aggitates the situation.

I have to say though I am in so much better shape then a year ago when the tear was fresh.



If you want to stay in the pool, you can try pool running. Put on a float belt and run in deep end. I know it's not much fun, but it's safe for your shoulders, knees and ankles and a great cardio workout.