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guitarman
Mar 14, 2008, 12:34 PM
High bounce for sandwedge meaning 14 degrees? Is that better for sand or worse. Does a high degree bounce like that tend to dig in or bounce more?
TORAIDER
Mar 14, 2008, 01:11 PM
Depends on the sand on the courses you are playing...That said, High Bounce is better for the light and fluffy stuff, the extra bounce does not let you dig down deep.
Low Bounce is better for hard packed sand. It lets you cut through the sand in the bunkers.
tourdeep
Mar 14, 2008, 01:20 PM
Depends on the sand on the courses you are playing...That said, High Bounce is better for the light and fluffy stuff, the extra bounce does not let you dig down deep.
Low Bounce is better for hard packed sand. It lets you cut through the sand in the bunkers.
Thats the deal! Well said short and sweet. ( without getting into grinds that is )
guitarman
Mar 14, 2008, 01:25 PM
Thanks toraider. I kind of knew this but just wanted to confirm. I was advising someone with their wedges and wanted to make sure I had it right.
racmbs
Mar 14, 2008, 01:57 PM
Thanks toraider. I kind of knew this but just wanted to confirm. I was advising someone with their wedges and wanted to make sure I had it right.
Terry....if you are looking for wedges to provide relief/forgiveness as well, you would be better off going with wedges that have higher bounce angles too.
guitarman
Mar 14, 2008, 01:59 PM
Terry....if you are looking for wedges to provide relief/forgiveness as well, you would be better off going with wedges that have higher bounce angles too.
Yes I just checked the bounce angle of my sandwedge and I see that its an 11 degree. Would I benefit going to a 14 degree?
cldale
Mar 14, 2008, 02:00 PM
Its worth nothing that the higher the bounce, the more easily you will skull a shot from the fairway if you're hitting a wedge approach.
leftintherough
Mar 14, 2008, 02:09 PM
Its worth nothing that the higher the bounce, the more easily you will skull a shot from the fairway if you're hitting a wedge approach.
Very true. That's why some wedges have heal relief. My wishon wedge has a 0 bounce when opened due to the heal relief. Makes the wedge very versatile.
Terry, some will choose a wedge based on their technique. Some are more diggers when coming out the sand. The more you dig the more bounce angle can help you.
racmbs
Mar 14, 2008, 02:11 PM
Its worth nothing that the higher the bounce, the more easily you will skull a shot from the fairway if you're hitting a wedge approach.
True, but one should also note that it would depend on the lie in the fairway, and the angle of attack one takes when taking the shot.
I play high bounce wedges...and prefer them over low bounce as their is more forgiveness offered.
guitarman
Mar 14, 2008, 02:13 PM
Very true. That's why some wedges have heal relief. My wishon wedge has a 0 bounce when opened due to the heal relief. Makes the wedge very versatile.
Terry, some will choose a wedge based on their technique. Some are more diggers when coming out the sand. The more you dig the more bounce angle can help you.
Thanks. that explains something. I was trying to explain to my boss, who just bought some new wedges, that higher bounce is good for fluffy sand as it won't dig as much. When he was looking at a site (Titelist I think) it was labelling the higher bounced wedges "digger". Which to him sounded contrary to what I was saying. He thought that meant that the higher bounced wedges will dig in to the sand more.
TORAIDER
Mar 14, 2008, 03:12 PM
Thanks. that explains something. I was trying to explain to my boss, who just bought some new wedges, that higher bounce is good for fluffy sand as it won't dig as much. When he was looking at a site (Titelist I think) it was labelling the higher bounced wedges "digger". Which to him sounded contrary to what I was saying. He thought that meant that the higher bounced wedges will dig in to the sand more.
Check out this site instead...
www.scratchgolf.com (http://www.scratchgolf.com)
LowPost42
Mar 14, 2008, 03:12 PM
Its worth nothing that the higher the bounce, the more easily you will skull a shot from the fairway if you're hitting a wedge approach.
Only if you're hitting it poorly! :rolleyes: :eek: :rofl:
leftintherough
Mar 14, 2008, 08:41 PM
Thanks. that explains something. I was trying to explain to my boss, who just bought some new wedges, that higher bounce is good for fluffy sand as it won't dig as much. When he was looking at a site (Titelist I think) it was labelling the higher bounced wedges "digger". Which to him sounded contrary to what I was saying. He thought that meant that the higher bounced wedges will dig in to the sand more.
You may want to recommend a higher bounce for newer golfers that are not used to good quality wedges. He may to to try buying some good quality used wedges, something with 12 to 14* bounce in a 56 loft, and a lower boune approach or lob wedge. I finally talked my bro inlaw into a buying some good wegdes and he starting with a 56* 2dot Cleveland CG10 at a great clearance price.
For me once you get a good quality wedge in your hands, you'll want a complete set. I play either a 3 or 4 wedge set up and have the wishon to rotate in as well. I might even add some CX-satins. My (and your challenge) is that Tom is only building the lefty in a 56* at 12* of bounce. I can bend it to a 52 but it will still have 8* of bounce which is a little too much for me for an approach/gap wedge.
My current set up is listed below, and I rotate in a titty 54* oil can SM and a Titty satin 58* both are mid bounce.
cdnputter
Mar 15, 2008, 11:23 AM
When he was looking at a site (Titelist I think) it was labelling the higher bounced wedges "digger". Which to him sounded contrary to what I was saying. He thought that meant that the higher bounced wedges will dig in to the sand more.
Titleist does have that label on the higher bounce wedges, but that's more for the type of swing a player may have. By digging I think they mean a steeper attack angle on the ball, versus one that's lower and slides. If someone carves pelts, then I'd say they were a digger. If someone brushes the grass, not taking a massive divot, then they might be a slider, by Titleist's wedges definition.
I know a guy at my course that routinely takes a foot long pelt that's at least an inch thick.... he's definitely a digger. :confused::confused:
LowPost42
Mar 15, 2008, 11:27 AM
Titleist does have that label on the higher bounce wedges, but that's more for the type of swing a player may have. By digging I think they mean a steeper attack angle on the ball, versus one that's lower and slides. If someone carves pelts, then I'd say they were a digger. If someone brushes the grass, not taking a massive divot, then they might be a slider, by Titleist's wedges definition.
I know a guy at my course that routinely takes a foot long pelt that's at least an inch thick.... he's definitely a digger. :confused::confused:
He must suck back balls like a mofo! :hush:
JEBS
Mar 15, 2008, 12:12 PM
I noticed that many use a low to mid bounce GW, a mid to high bounce SW and a lower bounce LW is this a normal setup?
With the popularity of "custom" or "tour" grind wedges, will this hold any benefit to the average mid cap player? or is this something better suited for a low capper?
cdnputter
Mar 15, 2008, 01:16 PM
I noticed that many use a low to mid bounce GW, a mid to high bounce SW and a lower bounce LW is this a normal setup?
With the popularity of "custom" or "tour" grind wedges, will this hold any benefit to the average mid cap player? or is this something better suited for a low capper?
Jebs, that setup seems to be an industry favourite, and they're just going by what the majority of golfers prefer (sales reports). Is that what we all need? I doubt it because we're all at different playing abilities and have different playing strengths and weaknesses.
I think rather than getting a custom grind put to your wedges, loads of tinkering for sure, it would be better to get the proper fitting done first. Swaain bent my wedges for me, had to go down 3 degrees from factory, while my irons are anywhere from standard to one degree down, but need a quarter inch off.... Would grinding help? maybe, but I don't play enough to warrant that time and cost factor. (expecting to get 60+ rounds in this season :cool:)
As for bounce, I think a lower bounce LW might be a bit more forgiving on a tighter lie, less chance of the leading edge to blade the pill across a green perhaps. I haven't played one for quite some time but for a high trajectory shot, that could/should land soft, I'm gonna put one in the bag soon.
Flog
Mar 15, 2008, 02:14 PM
Its worth nothing that the higher the bounce, the more easily you will skull a shot from the fairway if you're hitting a wedge approach.
That's a tricky shot for a beginner. I hit quite a few 'stingers' before I got it under control. :eek:
It's not a problem with a LW, as a rule.
hoganben
Mar 15, 2008, 03:12 PM
[quote=JEBS]I noticed that many use a low to mid bounce GW, a mid to high bounce SW and a lower bounce LW is this a normal setup?
That is a great set-up. I'll use my high bounce sw pretty much only out of deep ruff and sand that is very fluffy. A Lw with 8 degrees of bounce is great for most shots around the green, especially bunkers with "firm" sand. I am more of a "picker" of the ball, so I don't like a lot of bounce on my clubs. Also, I find that even most of the "high-end" courses tend to get quite "baked-out" by July and August -you tend to get a lot of tight lies on the fairway.
cdnputter
Mar 15, 2008, 04:56 PM
He must suck back balls like a mofo! :hush:
Well he could, if he wasn't busy searching every bush on the property for lost balls. I've also seen him in the pro shop going through the experienced ball packs that we get from a golfball recycler. "hey I just found some used Pro-V's!!" If only he knew that they were found in ponds at various courses in Eastern Ontario and Quebec. haha! :rofl::rofl:
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