Best round of my life today

[Haps]

My first 3 rounds this year were 106 105 111(which is a tad worse then usually but I don't often break a hundred). I made the mistake of counting up my score on the front nine today as I think that screwed with my head on the back. Shot a 43 on the front and 48 on the back. And if it wasn't for a few lips outs and a couple of easy miscues it should have been an 85.

Crossing my fingers whatever happened today sticks lol.

Just had to share.

[goshawk]

Good shooting Haps. Keep 'em coming!!

[Richard]

Congratulations!!!!!

The 80's are calling you, keep it up.

[Golfing in Ottawa]

I made the mistake of counting up my score on the front nine today as I think that screwed with my head on the back.

A Pro here in Ottawa who played on the Canadian Tour gave me great advice one day. NEVER count up your score after the front nine. There is nothing positive which will come from it.............only negative results. You will likely have an idea how you are playing, but if you know that to beat your best round or 100/90/80 that you have to Par or Birdie the 18th then your game will change and you will have "created" added pressure and try low percentage shots. Also, huge pressure and tension will be created when putting. We all know the tension when standing over a $15.00 putt in a friendly skins game................

He said only add up your card once finished the round and enjoying a cold one in the clubhouse.......

[goshawk]

A Pro here in Ottawa who played on the Canadian Tour gave me great advice one day. NEVER count up your score after the front nine. There is nothing positive which will come from it.............only negative results. You will likely have an idea how you are playing, but if you know that to beat your best round or 100/90/80 that you have to Par or Birdie the 18th then your game will change and you will have "created" added pressure and try low percentage shots. Also, huge pressure and tension will be created when putting. We all know the tension when standing over a $15.00 putt in a friendly skins game................

He said only add up your card once finished the round and enjoying a cold one in the clubhouse.......
Exactly why I never add my scores until I get to the parking lot or clubhouse. I have a good idea where my scoring is throughout my round, but don't give it a lot of thought. I want to be surprised when I do add it up. There's nothing like that smug smile (or maybe a WOOHOO!!!) while having a bite or a sip afterward!

[nearace]

great round congradulations,the boys I play with have a need to tell the tallys on every hole,doesnt bother me but if they are down and they know it they have a hard time getting a few back lol.

[t_dog_lxi]

Haps congrates on the BROYL. I had mine a few weeks back @ Anges Glen (South). Shot an 85, and everything went perfect. 16th hole drive landed in fairway, but bounced/hit a water pipe or something, and went OB. So I could really count that as an 84, but rules say 85 :rolleyes: .

Anyway's since then a few things have stuck with me, but I have somehoe gone back to shooting my avg 93-95. I'm sure one day I'll bring those down 88-89's.

Good luck sticking with what you had going on, but don't think to much about it.

[davepratt]

Haps congrates on the BROYL. I had mine a few weeks back @ Anges Glen (South). Shot an 85, and everything went perfect. 16th hole drive landed in fairway, but bounced/hit a water pipe or something, and went OB. So I could really count that as an 84, but rules say 85 :rolleyes: .

Anyway's since then a few things have stuck with me, but I have somehoe gone back to shooting my avg 93-95. I'm sure one day I'll bring those down 88-89's.

Good luck sticking with what you had going on, but don't think to much about it.
Please don't get mad, but this is a great time to discuss rules because I can't reconcile your OB score on 16. Can you please tell us exactly how you played and scored the hole? Thanks

[cdnputter]

Congrats Haps, keep playing well, the scores will come. The best advice I had for breaking 90 was to look at scoring 5 for each hole, you'll do better on at least 1 par 3 and there you go.

[Cybergolfer]

Please don't get mad, but this is a great time to discuss rules because I can't reconcile your OB score on 16. Can you please tell us exactly how you played and scored the hole? Thanks

Let's see played with golf clubs and a ball Scored with a pencil :D

[davepratt]

Let's see played with golf clubs and a ball Scored with a pencil :D
I don't think you get it. I suspect based on his description that he dropped a ball where it wet OB and took his 3rd shot from there instead of reloading and shooting 3 from the tee. Otherwise how can he only have a one shot differential? This is probably the number one scoring error made by golfers.

[MannyR]

I don't think you get it. I suspect based on his description that he dropped a ball where it wet OB and took his 3rd shot from there instead of reloading and shooting 3 from the tee. Otherwise how can he only have a one shot differential? This is probably the number one scoring error made by golfers.
Dave...you are right.

Most recreational golfers simply do not understand the rule and neglect to hit "3" from the tee.

[Anthony]

[quote=MannyR]Dave...you are right.

Most recreational golfers simply do not understand the rule and neglect to hit "3" from the te

And ruin the guys accomplishment and slow the game down for others.... Sorry to say my friends and all I play with are huge cheats because we hit from where it went out of bounds and take the penalty stroke, whoop-de-doo.... Not everyone is playing a qualifier.... Heck this guy said he hit it on the fairway, it hit a sprinkler and went OB... I wouldn't take a penalty and drop it in the fairway probably 20 yards from the green....:mad:

You guys are such downers.... We aren't talking about someone about to break par.... He shot a very nice round @ AG of 84/85.... Let me guess if you played with him at some club tournament, you'd let him finish the round and then have him DQ'd???

This was not posted in the rules section... Geez, get a grip...

[Golfing in Ottawa]

Dave...you are right.

Most recreational golfers simply do not understand the rule and neglect to hit "3" from the tee.

You are SO RIGHT !!!

I have played with a couple of guys (thank goodness only once or twice a year), and they hit the ball deep into the woods or water, take a drop and never count a penalty stroke........:eek: :mad:

We were judging how far a water hazard was from our tee-box so I asked him how far he hits his drives. He proudly says about 260 yds.......:eek: :cookoo:

This is after I have just witness him bananna slicing his drives into the woods about 170 yards all afternoon...............

This guy plays a couple of times a week in an organized group and tells me he usually shoots low 90s. He shot 107 that day with me, and did not count 8 penalty strokes on the front nine and another 7 on the back nine. Throw in a few times he should have been 3 off the tee, improper drops of a balls etc and this guy is at least 122..................;)

People like this just amaze me.............I am sure you all know of someone like this...............:D

[MannyR]

[quote=MannyR]Dave...you are right.

Most recreational golfers simply do not understand the rule and neglect to hit "3" from the te

And ruin the guys accomplishment and slow the game down for others.... Sorry to say my friends and all I play with are huge cheats because we hit from where it went out of bounds and take the penalty stroke, whoop-de-doo.... Not everyone is playing a qualifier.... Heck this guy said he hit it on the fairway, it hit a sprinkler and went OB... I wouldn't take a penalty and drop it in the fairway probably 20 yards from the green....:mad:

You guys are such downers.... We aren't talking about someone about to break par.... He shot a very nice round @ AG of 84/85.... Let me guess if you played with him at some club tournament, you'd let him finish the round and then have him DQ'd???

This was not posted in the rules section... Geez, get a grip...
My comment was never meant to demean Haps round...I am very glad he played well and good for him.

The point is that in golf, the rules are the rules, and to maintain a handicap you need to abide by them.

[davepratt]

[quote=MannyR]Dave...you are right.

Most recreational golfers simply do not understand the rule and neglect to hit "3" from the te

And ruin the guys accomplishment and slow the game down for others.... Sorry to say my friends and all I play with are huge cheats because we hit from where it went out of bounds and take the penalty stroke, whoop-de-doo.... Not everyone is playing a qualifier.... Heck this guy said he hit it on the fairway, it hit a sprinkler and went OB... I wouldn't take a penalty and drop it in the fairway probably 20 yards from the green....:mad:

You guys are such downers.... We aren't talking about someone about to break par.... He shot a very nice round @ AG of 84/85.... Let me guess if you played with him at some club tournament, you'd let him finish the round and then have him DQ'd???

This was not posted in the rules section... Geez, get a grip...
What did he accomplish if he made up the rules as he went along? I suspect he didn't know the proper rule otherwise he wouldn't have posted the story.
I was merely pointing out a common scoring error. I have absolutely no issue with you and your pals playing the way you do. For all you know he may thank us for pointing out the proper rule.
PS: If I had a nickel for every golfer who got a bad break because of a bad bounce,......well you know the rest.

[sharkhark]

[quote=Anthony]
My comment was never meant to demean Haps round...I am very glad he played well and good for him.

The point is that in golf, the rules are the rules, and to maintain a handicap you need to abide by them.

Not to mention that when that first threshold comes and you are proud to announce it, you want it to actually be that record day.
i.e. the day I finally broke 80 was super exciting, had I not known rules I would have been celebrating that event well before that but rules are what they are.

I think the last poster though is concerned that everyone jumped all over his score so quickly. guy is new and/or developing into a better player, is proud to announce his development and gets a mouthful of rules. Lets just congratulate him and these comments we made are enough to get him thinking for future re learning the rules.

[Mule56]

Dave...you are right.

Most recreational golfers simply do not understand the rule and neglect to hit "3" from the te

And ruin the guys accomplishment and slow the game down for others.... Sorry to say my friends and all I play with are huge cheats because we hit from where it went out of bounds and take the penalty stroke, whoop-de-doo.... Not everyone is playing a qualifier.... Heck this guy said he hit it on the fairway, it hit a sprinkler and went OB... I wouldn't take a penalty and drop it in the fairway probably 20 yards from the green....:mad:

You guys are such downers.... We aren't talking about someone about to break par.... He shot a very nice round @ AG of 84/85.... Let me guess if you played with him at some club tournament, you'd let him finish the round and then have him DQ'd???

This was not posted in the rules section... Geez, get a grip...

Anthony,
Nobody is trying to be downer to anyone. Except when they tell people to get a grip.:nono:
What happens is a lot of people keep a handicap. Not saying that Haps does. But he (and others) may want to know that if they ever started, the proper rule to be able to make the score official. That's what a discussion forum is about.
Following the rules doesn't slow down the game, not knowing them does. Hitting multiple mulligans does.
You are right about one thing. If you play in a club tournament and don't know the rules and I see you cheat, I tell you. If you don't change your score and you hand in your card, I arrange to have you DQ'd. You play with a bunch of your friends and you all cheat "whoop-de-doo".
Mule

[ginrin]

Could be done easily if he took a quad and had to score a triple for handicap purposes.

[davepratt]

Could be done easily if he took a quad and had to score a triple for handicap purposes.
That's outside the box thinking but I believe he's talking gross not net.

[Forged5]

:D:D:D:):):):D:D:D:):):)

[t_dog_lxi]

Please don't get mad, but this is a great time to discuss rules because I can't reconcile your OB score on 16. Can you please tell us exactly how you played and scored the hole? Thanks

I don't get mad bro, I get even :D . You are correct though, I took a drop at the location it went out. I thought it stayed in play, but it didn't. So what's the general rule? If you take a tee shot that you think MAY have gone OB, you should take another tee shot as a provissional, and count that as 3 from the tee? If you find your ball, great play it, if not then you have your provissional to use instead. If that's the case, then I guess I did mess up. I can see this being a common problem, and my frind and I are trying to nail things down and get an accuarate handicap so knowing the rules to the fullest would be great. Most of the time we (my group) will take another tee shot (3 from the tee) but this time I really though it was in play. So I guess my actual score should have been an 86 then right?


Thanks for the help guys, and HAPS, sorry your great round thread got taken over :( .

[Anthony]

I don't get mad bro, I get even :D . You are correct though, I took a drop at the location it went out. I thought it stayed in play, but it didn't. So what's the general rule? If you take a tee shot that you think MAY have gone OB, you should take another tee shot as a provissional, and count that as 3 from the tee? If you find your ball, great play it, if not then you have your provissional to use instead. If that's the case, then I guess I did mess up. I can see this being a common problem, and my frind and I are trying to nail things down and get an accuarate handicap so knowing the rules to the fullest would be great. Thanks for the help guys.

I would have taken an 84..... You hit it down the middle and it hit a sprinkler or some other man made obstruction.... Many people on this site are anal, rules police and take the game too too seriously.... Better watch how you mark your ball, play out of turn or if you actually improve your lie (from a dead spot or out of mud) or move it out of a divot, because someone from TGN may be watching.

I played a game last year and our partner hit a lousy tee shot and I told him to tee it up again... much better shot, nice shot to the green and sunk a 30'. He got a birdie.... Here he got a 5...

They don't understand that probably 90-95% of golfers just go out a play the game have fun and are not in tournament mode on the golf course.....

[davepratt]

I would have taken an 84..... You hit it down the middle and it hit a sprinkler or some other man made obstruction.... Many people on this site are anal, rules police and take the game too too seriously.... Better watch how you mark your ball, play out of turn or if you actually improve your lie (from a dead spot or out of mud) or move it out of a divot, because someone from TGN may be watching.

I played a game last year and our partner hit a lousy tee shot and I told him to tee it up again... much better shot, nice shot to the green and sunk a 30'. He got a birdie.... Here he got a 5...

They don't understand that probably 90-95% of golfers just go out a play the game have fun and are not in tournament mode on the golf course.....
You should take up the game of golf someday. It has rules and lots more. I think you'd enjoy it. The best part is true golfers who play by the rules aren't anal, police or too serious. If you want to invent a new game, by all means do it, but please don't critisize the people who play the existing game of golf.

[Anthony]

You should take up the game of golf someday. It has rules and lots more. I think you'd enjoy it. The best part is true golfers who play by the rules aren't anal, police or too serious. If you want to invent a new game, by all means do it, but please don't critisize the people who play the existing game of golf.

Exactly the resonse expected by a TGN'er...You're right I don't play golf... I however do enjoy myself when I'm on the golf course...

[davepratt]

I don't get mad bro, I get even :D . You are correct though, I took a drop at the location it went out. I thought it stayed in play, but it didn't. So what's the general rule? If you take a tee shot that you think MAY have gone OB, you should take another tee shot as a provissional, and count that as 3 from the tee? If you find your ball, great play it, if not then you have your provissional to use instead. If that's the case, then I guess I did mess up. I can see this being a common problem, and my frind and I are trying to nail things down and get an accuarate handicap so knowing the rules to the fullest would be great. Most of the time we (my group) will take another tee shot (3 from the tee) but this time I really though it was in play. So I guess my actual score should have been an 86 then right?


Thanks for the help guys, and HAPS, sorry your great round thread got taken over :( .
You have the rule correct. Great attitude. I had a suspicion you weren't aware of the rule. Congrats on an awesome round. 79 is just around the corner.

[JohnsonN]

just play for small amount of money, or for some pro v1, per round, enter a few tournament here and there, you'll be supprised how many times the rule book's pulled out, take it and learn from it, respect the rule, and the game would certanly help develope a good habbits, although breaking 100/90/80 even much harder, but it'll be a pure break.

congra haps, that WHAT and IF, is the engine that drive us to the cours again and again.

[imAnewbie]

I would have taken an 84..... You hit it down the middle and it hit a sprinkler or some other man made obstruction.... Many people on this site are anal, rules police and take the game too too seriously.... Better watch how you mark your ball, play out of turn or if you actually improve your lie (from a dead spot or out of mud) or move it out of a divot, because someone from TGN may be watching.

I played a game last year and our partner hit a lousy tee shot and I told him to tee it up again... much better shot, nice shot to the green and sunk a 30'. He got a birdie.... Here he got a 5...

They don't understand that probably 90-95% of golfers just go out a play the game have fun and are not in tournament mode on the golf course.....

so true, some people play it so seriously, was playing dentonia one time with another group of 2 some, teeing up at hole#9, i actually moved my tee shot almost 2 club lengths from the tee box, but im still inside the tee box... after I hit the shot, he told me i couldve been penalized 2 strokes for teeing up too far from the tee box? i was like what? im not sure if this is true, the only reason I teed up at the back because the front side of the tee box was all soil/sand already... so i just ignored him that day and moved on... i was like "arent you even happy im teeing it further where it was suppose to be?" hahaha

[davepratt]

Exactly the resonse expected by a TGN'er...You're right I don't play golf... I however do enjoy myself when I'm on the golf course...
Enjoying yourself is all that matters Anthony. I've no issue with that. Did you see his response? He wants to learn the proper rules. What's with the non stop shots at TGNers?

[Golfing in Ottawa]

I kind of equate learning golfs rules and etiquette like learning proper "table manners". If you do not learn properly, you are certainly going to embarress yourself someday in the future........Hopefully not with some business colleagues or clients..............;)

[davepratt]

I kind of equate learning golfs rules and etiquette like learning proper "table manners". If you do not learn properly, you are certainly going to embarress yourself someday in the future........Hopefully not with some business colleagues or clients..............;)
Good call. Now where does that damn dessert fork go?

[Timmeh]

Look guys this simple congrats Hap on your great round. Now why cant we all just say congrats to him and just let it be this guys moment for now. He wasn't even the one who made the scoreing error and lets let this guy have his moment or thread for that fact. I dont mean to cause any problems I myself prefer to play fully by the rules now where I didn't so much before. But I think we need to just let this all go and congratulate Haps. Come one TGN is like family here lets not want to kill one another. Kinda crazy this is all coming from someone who is only 19.

Tim

[Mule56]

Look guys this simple congrats Hap on your great round. Now why cant we all just say congrats to him and just let it be this guys moment for now. He wasn't even the one who made the scoreing error and lets let this guy have his moment or thread for that fact. I dont mean to cause any problems I myself prefer to play fully by the rules now where I didn't so much before. But I think we need to just let this all go and congratulate Haps. Come one TGN is like family here lets not want to kill one another. Kinda crazy this is all coming from someone who is only 19.

Tim

Good post Tim. Wise beyond your years.:)

[Timmeh]

Comes from my father, he raised me well. Now hes fixing my swing even though he cant do it himself he deffinatly can teach it. Hopefully I can get him out to the course a lot this summer as this may be his last, since his MS is really kicking has a hard time walking now just around the house. Hes coming with me today to play Chippawa in my Highschool tournament. I believe I am placed like 8th or 9th overall in it so far. I will let you guys no afterwards how I played. :D

Tim

[golfnguru]

Playing as a guest in a company tournament, I had sliced my ball into some trees. I found it and it was unplayable and really no place to drop.

One of the guys I was playing with said "drop it in the fairway and take a stroke".
I said that I really should go back to the tee and hit.

His response was classic: "The only way you go back to the tee in this tournament is if you left your beer there. :D:D:D

Anyway, from my experience, few people play completely by the rules, partly because they are quite complex.

Do you really believe that the rules sticklers have never taken a gimme, moved there ball out of a bad lie (or away from a stone), not declared a provisional ball, dropped from a hazard in a spot that is not exactly in line with the hole, etc.?

[Anthony]

Playing as a guest in a company tournament, I had sliced my ball into some trees. I found it and it was unplayable and really no place to drop.

One of the guys I was playing with said "drop it in the fairway and take a stroke".
I said that I really should go back to the tee and hit.

His response was classic: "The only way you go back to the tee in this tournament is if you left your beer there. :D:D:D

Anyway, from my experience, few people play completely by the rules, partly because they are quite complex.

Do you really believe that the rules sticklers have never taken a gimme, moved there ball out of a bad lie (or away from a stone), not declared a provisional ball, dropped from a hazard in a spot that is not exactly in line with the hole, etc.?

Love it... The issue really that bothers me it that we are out for fun and yes we count our scores, some taking it much more serious then others, and many post a handicap, and probably it is a little lower then it should be. Can you imagine if everyone did play by the rules how slow rounds would be as people re-tee or find their balls unplayable and return to the tee?

Read scorecards on courses or where drop areas are. Often the rules and drop areas are specifically written & placed to speed up play and away from the hazard.

Every month I read my Golf Magazine and laugh at the rules section and the stupidity of the questions and the rulings.

Maybe I need to buy myself a golf course and post "Course Rules by Anthony" and have Marshall's patrolling the course to observe that they are playing those rules and then kicking those off not playing them.....;) TGN'ers be warned.

[guitarman]

I would have taken an 84..... You hit it down the middle and it hit a sprinkler or some other man made obstruction.... Many people on this site are anal, rules police and take the game too too seriously.... Better watch how you mark your ball, play out of turn or if you actually improve your lie (from a dead spot or out of mud) or move it out of a divot, because someone from TGN may be watching.

I played a game last year and our partner hit a lousy tee shot and I told him to tee it up again... much better shot, nice shot to the green and sunk a 30'. He got a birdie.... Here he got a 5...

They don't understand that probably 90-95% of golfers just go out a play the game have fun and are not in tournament mode on the golf course.....

I played a round on Saturday at Burlington Springs. On the 17th hole on about a 160 yard par 3 I hit a pretty good shot that went up and was immediately taken sharply to the left and in to the water. I hit another off the tee aiming more right It went directly at the pin and about 8 feet behind it. I ended up putting that baby right in. Under no circumstances was that even remotely a birdie. I guess I could unofficially say its a birdie on the ball but 4 went on my score card. It didn't take the fun out of the game for me. Even though I am by no means a rule expert I will play by them and that is the fun of it. This game isn't easy and this is what gets me addicted to it. Trying to beat it.
How much fun would hockey be if everytime you went to score the goalie moved so as not to frustrate you at your inability to score on him.:D

[Anthony]

I played a round on Saturday at Burlington Springs. On the 17th hole on about a 160 yard par 3 I hit a pretty good shot that went up and was immediately taken sharply to the left and in to the water. I hit another off the tee aiming more right It went directly at the pin and about 8 feet behind it. I ended up putting that baby right in. Under no circumstances was that even remotely a birdie. I guess I could unofficially say its a birdie on the ball but 4 went on my score card. It didn't take the fun out of the game for me. Even though I am by no means a rule expert I will play by them and that is the fun of it. This game isn't easy and this is what gets me addicted to it. Trying to beat it.
How much fun would hockey be if everytime you went to score the goalie moved so as not to frustrate you at your inability to score on him.:D

I get it.... You have stated this over and over the last two years I have been on the site and since I posted my views on the game in one of my first ever posts. In addition you have questioned my honesty on many an occasion. Good for you marking it as a 4. I conversely was happy to congratulate my playing partner on a birdie and not remind him that it was really a 5 as he re-teed it.

[Bellyhungry]

I get it.... You have stated this over and over the last two years I have been on the site and since I posted my views on the game in one of my first ever posts. In addition you have questioned my honesty on many an occasion. Good for you marking it as a 4. I conversely was happy to congratulate my playing partner on a birdie and not remind him that it was really a 5 as he re-teed it.

You want to play the way you want, that's fine; They want to play by the rules, they should be left to their own device. You shouldn't impose on them with your view on them, and they shouldn't impose on you with the rules.

The reality is, I imagine, most people - including handicap-keeper don't play the rules 100% of the time. But if they are not aware of certain rules, are they really breaking them?

Peace out....

[guitarman]

I get it.... You have stated this over and over the last two years I have been on the site and since I posted my views on the game in one of my first ever posts.

Look whos talking you seem to state your views over and over and over and while you're at it take potshots at TGN'ers with opposing views.

I've never seen anyone congragulated for a birdie 3 off the tee. When that happenned to me Saturday, one my playing parnters said, "Thats got to hurt", meaning too bad you didn't do that on your first ball.:D

[MannyR]

You want to play the way you want, that's fine; They want to play by the rules, they should be left to their own device. You shouldn't impose on them with your view on them, and they shouldn't impose on you with the rules.

The reality is, I imagine, most people - including handicap-keeper don't play the rules 100% of the time. But if they are not aware of certain rules, are they really breaking them?

Peace out....
Sometimes it is not possible to play by the rules...like going back to the tee box if you go OB and are playing on a crowded public course.
So you take a stroke and not the distance and move on.

I believe that the whole point of the discussion is that if you are in non-recreational play, the rules are there to be followed. It is black and white.

If you are playing recreational golf there is a lot of bending of the rules...gimmes, mulligans, take it out of the divot in the middle of the fairway, etc. Nothing wrong. Enjoy!

When you want to really earn that 89...and then your first 79...play by the rules as best you know them and if you don't, this is a great forum to discover what you need to know.

[goshawk]

The reality is, I imagine, most people - including handicap-keeper don't play the rules 100% of the time. But if they are not aware of certain rules, are they really breaking them?

Peace out....
Bellyhungry, unfortunately whether they know the rule or not, it's still breaking that rule. However, there are times when we all make mistakes interpreting a particular ruling while on the course. I have yet to meet a human being who was perfect all of the time. Even the pros have troubles.....how many pros have been DQ'd because some viewer called in to enforce some ruling?
The point is the OP started this thread to (hopefully) share celebrating "the best round of my life today". Let's help him celebrate and stop squabbling about whether everyone plays strictly by the rules. Even if he made a mistake and his score should be 2 strokes higher, it still may be his best ever round.

Congrats!!

[davepratt]

Bellyhungry, unfortunately whether they know the rule or not, it's still breaking that rule. However, there are times when we all make mistakes interpreting a particular ruling while on the course. I have yet to meet a human being who was perfect all of the time. Even the pros have troubles.....how many pros have been DQ'd because some viewer called in to enforce some ruling?
The point is the OP started this thread to (hopefully) share celebrating "the best round of my life today". Let's help him celebrate and stop squabbling about whether everyone plays strictly by the rules. Even if he made a mistake and his score should be 2 strokes higher, it still may be his best ever round.

Congrats!!
I think what we need to remember is that he was very appreciative of us pointing out the rules. He said he wants to fully understand them so he can keep a proper handicap. He's not the the one griping. He's thankful and demonstrating a great attitude and I commend him.

[Bellyhungry]

Bellyhungry, unfortunately whether they know the rule or not, it's still breaking that rule. However, there are times when we all make mistakes interpreting a particular ruling while on the course. I have yet to meet a human being who was perfect all of the time. Even the pros have troubles.....how many pros have been DQ'd because some viewer called in to enforce some ruling?
The point is the OP started this thread to (hopefully) share celebrating "the best round of my life today". Let's help him celebrate and stop squabbling about whether everyone plays strictly by the rules. Even if he made a mistake and his score should be 2 strokes higher, it still may be his best ever round.

Congrats!!

OK...I was just trying to defuse a potential feud.

I think what we need to remember is that he was very appreciative of us pointing out the rules. He said he wants to fully understand them so he can keep a proper handicap. He's not the the one griping. He's thankful and demonstrating a great attitude and I commend him.

The OP (Haps) is not the one breaking the rules. It was someone else.

Haps, congratulations on a round well played!

[davepratt]

OK...I was just trying to defuse a potential feud.
The OP (Haps) is not the one breaking the rules. It was someone else.

I know. That's what I was pointing out. and on that note...I'm done with this one. All future inquiries will be referred to the rules committee.

[Anthony]

OK...I was just trying to defuse a potential feud.



The OP (Haps) is not the one breaking the rules. It was someone else.

Haps, congratulations on a round well played!

And again you have to couch it as someone "breaking the rules".... Sheesh....

[Bellyhungry]

And again you have to couch it as someone "breaking the rules".... Sheesh....

You are hopeless :)

I give up.

[corchard]

There was interesting article I read on simplifying the rules of the game. http://turf.lib.msu.edu/1950s/1953/530213.pdf It broke the rules down into three pricipals:

PLAY THE COURSE AS WE FIND IT.
PLAY THE BALL AS IT LIES.
PLAY FAIR.

Under these principals you can play as a weekender with your buds under a variety of scenarios and enjoy the game. It's only when playing the game against others you don't know for $$$ that all the rest of the 34 Rules of golf, 12 pages of definitions, 40 pages of appendicies, 17 sections and 8 appendicies of handicapping manual and 1000 decisions come into play.

[goshawk]

Great find Charles!

[guitarman]

PLAY THE COURSE AS WE FIND IT.


Does this mean that playing fall rules is a myth? I always kind of thought it was stupid but I've played with so many that say its a legitimate rule.

[nearace]

There was interesting article I read on simplifying the rules of the game. http://turf.lib.msu.edu/1950s/1953/530213.pdf It broke the rules down into three pricipals:

PLAY THE COURSE AS WE FIND IT.
PLAY THE BALL AS IT LIES.
PLAY FAIR.

Under these principals you can play as a weekender with your buds under a variety of scenarios and enjoy the game. It's only when playing the game against others you don't know for $$$ that all the rest of the 34 Rules of golf, 12 pages of definitions, 40 pages of appendicies, 17 sections and 8 appendicies of handicapping manual and 1000 decisions come into play.sounds like three little rules to golf by.I like number 3.

[corchard]

sounds like three little rules to golf by.I like number 3.

Big H when you and me play for donuts anything under 12 feet is a gimme.

That's only fair.

[golfingoalie]

My first 3 rounds this year were 106 105 111



You free this weekend...heard OGF is looking for a guy to complete their team ;)

[luv2golow]

You free this weekend...heard OGF is looking for a guy to complete their team ;)

:p

Only you would come up with that, G-man.:D

[Smully]

Ray Charles would be proud of you.

[luv2golow]

Ray Charles would be proud of you.
:rofl:

[racmbs]

Here's a thought...

If one is playing golf to not only enjoy themselves, but to keep score and maintain a valid HDCP for WHATEVER reason it is.....then one SHOULD play by the rules as that's what the rules are for. Plain and simple, no arguing it....heck, even our little Ryder Cup event requires valid HDCP's for the sole purpose of keeping the event as even as possible.

HOWEVER.......

If one is playing the game as it's something they simply enjoy to do whenever and are not concerned with their HDCP's or following the rules to the letter, then why keep score at all and not just go out and play the damn game the way you want to?

[Timmeh]

So much guys for giving this fellow TGNer his time to shine if I was him I would feel horrible the amount of destrution this post has taken. How hard is it for you anthony to accept the fact some people play by the rules. And for the rest against him that some just dont play fully by the rules. Lets get past this and stop fighting over something this stupid.... sorry i just think this is getting very immature.

Tim

[nearace]

Big H when you and me play for donuts anything under 12 feet is a gimme.

That's only fair.12 feet :eek: I allways thought it was a putter length thats why I got a belly putter:D

[Desi2007]

Congrats to Hap for shooting the best round of his life. Feels great doesn't it? Many more to come I am sure. Enjoy!!!

As far the rules issue, my take is...if you are shooting in 100+ range.....then enjoy and try to get better. Once you get into mid nineties and lower....you should play with proper rules. If you dont...then you are only cheating yourself and won't learn or improve. Of course, any time you are playing for fun, then do whatever you like and don't record score. You don't have to be anal about the rules ...as long as you follow the spirit of the rules (ie when taking a penalty .... you don't have to pull out your club and measure 2 club lengths..... and then drop the ball......just as long as you drop approx 2 club lengths....its ok with me).......imo

[Haps]

There are a few lines of thought here.

Haps played the game of his life, oblivious to the rules.

Excuse me but just exactly when did this occur?

[davepratt]

Excuse me but just exactly when did this occur?
This is so funny Haps. Through all the battling in this thread, people lost track of who they were talking about and now you're the bad guy. Keep Smiling. :)

[golf nut]

It isn't difficult to get sideways in this thread, I deleted it, hope it didn't cause issues.

[Haps]

This discussion has brought one question to mind. One thing I refuse to do when I play is hit my ball off of or near rocks. I'm not going to damage my clubs.

What I normally do is move my ball to the nearest location(usually a matter of inches) that I can hit without damaging a club and asses a one-stroke penalty. However, I'm not positive this fits under "unplayable lie"

[Big Shooter]

I would have taken an 84..... You hit it down the middle and it hit a sprinkler or some other man made obstruction.... Many people on this site are anal, rules police and take the game too too seriously.... Better watch how you mark your ball, play out of turn or if you actually improve your lie (from a dead spot or out of mud) or move it out of a divot, because someone from TGN may be watching.

I played a game last year and our partner hit a lousy tee shot and I told him to tee it up again... much better shot, nice shot to the green and sunk a 30'. He got a birdie.... Here he got a 5...

They don't understand that probably 90-95% of golfers just go out a play the game have fun and are not in tournament mode on the golf course.....

Anthony, you can play in MY group anytime...waaaaay more fun!!
....Golf is a GAME, first & foremost, right!? :)

Sometimes it is not possible to play by the rules...like going back to the tee box if you go OB and are playing on a crowded public course.
So you take a stroke and not the distance and move on.

I believe that the whole point of the discussion is that if you are in non-recreational play, the rules are there to be followed. It is black and white.

If you are playing recreational golf there is a lot of bending of the rules...gimmes, mulligans, take it out of the divot in the middle of the fairway, etc. Nothing wrong. Enjoy!

When you want to really earn that 89...and then your first 79...play by the rules as best you know them and if you don't, this is a great forum to discover what you need to know.

...this I agree with....

[guitarman]

Congrats to Hap for shooting the best round of his life. Feels great doesn't it? Many more to come I am sure. Enjoy!!!

As far the rules issue, my take is...if you are shooting in 100+ range.....then enjoy and try to get better. Once you get into mid nineties and lower....you should play with proper rules.

If you don't play by the rules when you are in the 100+ range how will you know when get to the mid nineties?

[Golfing in Ottawa]

If you don't play by the rules when you are in the 100+ range how will you know when get to the mid nineties?

Perhaps he is already there............or even the 80s........:D
As mentioned in a previous post, a guy I play with once or twice a year tells me he shoots in the low nineties............when I play with him he fails to record at least 15 strokes and still shoots 107................

I guess its all in the mind of the golfer. To this guy he feels he shoots a 92..........scorecard shows 107.....................actual score is 122..........;)

[racmbs]

This discussion has brought one question to mind. One thing I refuse to do when I play is hit my ball off of or near rocks. I'm not going to damage my clubs.

What I normally do is move my ball to the nearest location(usually a matter of inches) that I can hit without damaging a club and asses a one-stroke penalty. However, I'm not positive this fits under "unplayable lie"

I'm with you on this one...and extend the same courtesy to anyone playing in my group. Even when we play games like skins or 5/5/5 I extend the same courtesy as it's not a bloody tournament.

But if you were playing in a sanctioned event, you'd be forced to either play it as it lies, or take an unplayable.

[golfnguru]

I'm with you on this one...and extend the same courtesy to anyone playing in my group. Even when we play games like skins or 5/5/5 I extend the same courtesy as it's not a bloody tournament.

But if you were playing in a sanctioned event, you'd be forced to either play it as it lies, or take an unplayable.


He says he takes a stroke though.

By saying you extend the courtesy, I am assuming you don't.

I'm with you, move it off a rock, no charge.