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westbeach
Nov 6, 2005, 06:30 PM
Just wonder who makes a conscious effort to park their cart, place their bag or put their pull cart between the green and the next hole?
I think this should be proper etiquette for most golfers if their ball is on the green. It's my pet-peeve when people take forever to putt on the green and then they walk back towards me to retrieve their bag or cart.

iyell4
Nov 6, 2005, 06:37 PM
I always do this.
park cart between the green and the next hole.

SW20 MR2
Nov 6, 2005, 06:51 PM
I park it the shortest distance from the flag so that I can walk back to it the quickest.

Grass Roots Tour
Nov 6, 2005, 06:59 PM
Just wonder who makes a conscious effort to park their cart, place their bag or put their pull cart between the green and the next hole?
I think this should be proper etiquette for most golfers if their ball is on the green. It's my pet-peeve when people take forever to putt on the green and then they walk back towards me to retrieve their bag or cart.

Agreed. Why can't people get this right?

Of coarse its worse whent hey drive the cart up on the fringe. :eek:

East Coast Golfer
Nov 6, 2005, 09:00 PM
Working at the Rock this summer, I was so surprised as the type of clientele we receive. Here are some examples of what our marshal has had to deal with.
1. Guy drives his cart onto green and putts his ball while still sitting in the cart!! (drunk)
2. Guy almost fighting marshal over the fact that our mowers drive on the fringe, so why can't he!! (sober)
3. Two guys are pulling cart up to bag drop/club cleaning area after round, sees me, turns around and drives back by 18 green and to the parking lot. Then leave the cart in lot and drives away.(not sure/idiots)
4. Women decides to ignore the cart path sign and drive down a steep and wet grass hill. Slams the brakes and tears a 10 foot strip off the fairway..blames the cart. (sober)
5. foursome park carts at cart path sign (50 yards from gree) and all walk to putt, then all walk back to the cart to drive to the next hole during a very busy day. (sober)


Ignorance is not an excuse for common sense and courtesy. Sometimes I wish it was not an customer service industry so we could really let these people know how dumb they really are and tell them to never return.

ah well, the good people easily out-number the bad, and that is what makes this game so damn good.

westbeach
Nov 6, 2005, 10:04 PM
ECG....here are some stories from my days:
1. Guy's g/f drives onto a green and the guy freaked her out by yelling at her to get off the green. She turns hard and slams on the brakes. Ouch
2. At the Paintbrush, I've seen too many carts in bunkers. Well, it's so well hidden sometimes, if you don't pay attention, you're in for a surprise.
3. A guy comes back with a cut on his head and visible damage to the cart. Asked him if he got into an accident...Nope. Apparently, he slammed into a fence while looking for his ball by a boundaries fence.
4. Best one of all (I shouldn't laugh cuz it was potentially dangerous). Two drunk guys decide to play a game of chicken with the carts. Well, they both swerve the same way and had a little head on collision. An OPP officer was driving by the course and saw it. He actually arrested them for operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated.

Bellyhungry
Nov 7, 2005, 07:11 AM
My biggest pet peeve is when your group is on the tee, the group behind you drive up to the tee box. I think the right etiquette is to keep a reasonable distance away from the previous green and the group in front of you.

Also, I keep reading news stories about people getting killed or seriously injured in freak golf cart accidents every year. I am surprised there aren't tougher regulations in place. Most golf courses don't even ask you to sign a waiver.

I also marvel at the fact that golf course is the only place you can drink and drive.

westbeach
Nov 7, 2005, 09:41 AM
I also marvel at the fact that golf course is the only place you can drink and drive.
I wonder what the liability issue is if a person gets intoxicated and gets into an accident after being served on the course. I mean...not when they're on the road on the way home but somebody who say....drives off into a pond or something b/c they were so drunk.

leftintherough
Nov 7, 2005, 09:57 AM
Just wonder who makes a conscious effort to park their cart, place their bag or put their pull cart between the green and the next hole?
I think this should be proper etiquette for most golfers if their ball is on the green. It's my pet-peeve when people take forever to putt on the green and then they walk back towards me to retrieve their bag or cart.
Or people who stand on the green and discuss the hole and mark their score card !

A few weeks ago, after waiting patiently for three holes for the same thing, I hit just as they started leaving. I stuck right by the pin and saw their heads snap around when they heard the ball land. I know, stupid thing, I should have waited, but I was really getting frustrated. They seem to take even longer on the next hole. .... That'll learn me!

I always try to park my bag/cart in line with the next hole. Its just plain smarter and more courteous.

iyell4
Nov 7, 2005, 10:48 AM
My biggest pet peeve is when your group is on the tee, the group behind you drive up to the tee box. I think the right etiquette is to keep a reasonable distance away from the previous green and the group in front of you.
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i hate it when that happens. :mad: . it brings on 'performance-anxiety' that i can do without, thank-you very mucho.
now, if i were able to conistenly launch 300-yard (or anything +200 yards) bombs down-the-pipe every time, i would appreciate the audience. for now, the three guys in my group are more than enough audience to watch (and help me track) my monster power fades :eek: into the adjacent fairways.

i fore one earned my moniker. :)

westbeach
Nov 7, 2005, 10:56 AM
i hate it when that happens. :mad: . it brings on 'performance-anxiety' that i can do without, thank-you very mucho.
now, if i were able to conistenly launch 300-yard (or anything +200 yards) bombs down-the-pipe every time, i would appreciate the audience. for now, the three guys in my group are more than enough audience to watch (and help me track) my monster power fades :eek: into the adjacent fairways.

i fore one earned my moniker. :)
What happens when you play through a group? LOL.

Usually when somebody drives up while we're still teeing off, try to strike up a conversation. I find it eases the tension quite a bit and to know that you're human unlike a "stranger".

East Coast Golfer
Nov 7, 2005, 11:33 AM
I agreet o an extent, if the course is rammed and you are constantly waiting for the group in front of you, then yes the group behind could stand to keep back from the tee a little while waiting their turn.

But if they are constantly waiting for your group and you are more than a hole behind or if the course is not full and you know that group will get through many groups, then you should wave those people up to play through.

Grass Roots Tour
Nov 7, 2005, 02:35 PM
Just think ECG and WB, those stories you told are only the ones you saw or heard about.

Ever wonder about the stuff you didn't see?

I also find it hard to believe that cops don't set up RIDE programs down the street from golf courses. I think that day is coming.

Ego Woods
Nov 7, 2005, 02:48 PM
Here's another question:

How many of you leave the golf cart in the parking lot after your round is completed and your golf stuff is packed back into your car?

I'm not one of them.

westbeach
Nov 7, 2005, 02:59 PM
Yeah, that's really poor especially when it's the end of the day. The kids have been working there for 9-10 hrs and thats how you thank them. Don't forget they still have to wash them and in some cases, gas them up as well.

East Coast Golfer
Nov 7, 2005, 03:08 PM
Yeah, that's really poor especially when it's the end of the day. The kids have been working there for 9-10 hrs and thats how you thank them. Don't forget they still have to wash them and in some cases, gas them up as well.
exactly...people who do this are
a) extremely lazy, you just drove the whole round, you can't walk 30 yards to return the cart?
b) cheap and socially retarded.

Last summer I was only making 8$/hour working bag drop and I would see tons of people avoiding me like the plague so they did not have to tip me when I scrubbed their hammers. (and we don't even expect a tip, its a service we provide, tips are great, but not essential) Then they hop in their porche/lexus/BMW's and drive away. Some people just do not konw how to be served.

Just does not make any sense to me..

chiantibro
Nov 7, 2005, 03:29 PM
Does anyone else ever notice that when walkers meet other walkers at tee blocks, etc. there is usually some polite chatter, or at least a 'good-day'? When cart riders meet up there is usually stony silence as though there are no other people around. I've always found that to be funny.

Grass Roots Tour
Nov 7, 2005, 03:39 PM
exactly...people who do this are
a) extremely lazy, you just drove the whole round, you can't walk 30 yards to return the cart?
b) cheap and socially retarded.

Last summer I was only making 8$/hour working bag drop and I would see tons of people avoiding me like the plague so they did not have to tip me when I scrubbed their hammers. (and we don't even expect a tip, its a service we provide, tips are great, but not essential) Then they hop in their porche/lexus/BMW's and drive away. Some people just do not konw how to be served.

Just does not make any sense to me..

You'll find that the more money people have, the less they are willing to part with it. Rich people don't tip very well or not at all. Its as if they never had a working class job so they appreciate nothing.

Does anyone else ever notice that when walkers meet other walkers at tee blocks, etc. there is usually some polite chatter, or at least a 'good-day'? When cart riders meet up there is usually stony silence as though there are no other people around. I've always found that to be funny.

I'd say in a lot of cases thats the difference between new golfers and seasoned golfers. Or it could be city folk vs. country hicks.
Also when you encounter another group on the links the group thats supposed to be in front always seems worried we might ask to play through and ruin their entire day by passing them. Don't you notice how all of a sudden they pile in the cart and speed off without making eye contact? :nono: They could have been on that tee deck for ten minutes shootin the sh*t but the minute you arrive, BAM, they're gone.

iyell4
Nov 7, 2005, 04:04 PM
Does anyone else ever notice that when walkers meet other walkers at tee blocks, etc. there is usually some polite chatter, or at least a 'good-day'? When cart riders meet up there is usually stony silence as though there are no other people around. I've always found that to be funny.yeah, sorta like how motorcyclists acknowledge each other on the road, how runners politely wave/ack each other as they pass ... drivin' in a car or golf cart is an exercise in societal anonymity: you're in your own little world.

Focker Singh
Nov 7, 2005, 06:11 PM
I must say I've seen some pretty crazy things happen to golf carts while working at a golf course this season. In no particular order here is my list.

1. A drunk guy doing fish tails on a green. The marshal reported him and the golfer was slapped with the damage fee to the green.
2. A golfer drove too close to a river and the cart tipped over into the water.
3. A cart was found with an empty 1.5Ltr vodka and 1Ltr of Baileys (no damage)
4. An endless number of carts that crashed into trees and rocks.
5. A marshal who went head into another cart as they came around a blind corner. (no injuries but a lot of damage)

I also hate it when I see people drive past the "please return carts to path" sign and end up infront of the green or beside it.

Also when people ignore or play dumb to "cart path only".

racmbs
Nov 7, 2005, 06:32 PM
[QUOTE=Focker Singh] 3. A cart was found with an empty 1.5Ltr vodka and 1Ltr of Baileys (no damage) [QUOTE]

I hope this wasn't after a TGN event :D

Grass Roots Tour
Nov 7, 2005, 06:46 PM
[QUOTE=Focker Singh] 3. A cart was found with an empty 1.5Ltr vodka and 1Ltr of Baileys (no damage) [QUOTE]

I hope this wasn't after a TGN event :D

Talk to RR, he may know somethin bout it. :D

Rocknronny
Nov 7, 2005, 06:49 PM
Talk to RR, he may know somethin bout it. :DI dont care much for vodka.:eek:

Bellyhungry
Nov 8, 2005, 06:22 AM
I'd say in a lot of cases thats the difference between new golfers and seasoned golfers. Or it could be city folk vs. country hicks.

Also when you encounter another group on the links the group thats supposed to be in front always seems worried we might ask to play through and ruin their entire day by passing them. Don't you notice how all of a sudden they pile in the cart and speed off without making eye contact? :nono: They could have been on that tee deck for ten minutes shootin the sh*t but the minute you arrive, BAM, they're gone.
Can you define what type of golfers you equate to city folks, and similarly for country hicks?

Also, I am the type of people who try to speed off as much as possible when the group behind me approaches uninvitedly. I hate it when people drive up to the tee box my group is on. Playing golf on weekend is a sanctuary and meditation for me when I am on the golf course, I do not neccessary go there to chat it up. I do all my social golf playing business golf.

East Coast Golfer
Nov 8, 2005, 08:39 AM
Can you define what type of golfers you equate to city folks, and similarly for country hicks?

Also, I am the type of people who try to speed off as much as possible when the group behind me approaches uninvitedly. I hate it when people drive up to the tee box my group is on. Playing golf on weekend is a sanctuary and meditation for me when I am on the golf course, I do not neccessary go there to chat it up. I do all my social golf playing business golf.
well as long as your group is not holding up the one pulling up to the tee box, then I see nothing wrong with that.

sdcfan18
Nov 8, 2005, 05:01 PM
I really have a problem with people that leave their carts in the parking lot after the round...I am one of the kids that has to go a pick them up. I don't mind if you drive up to the club house and leave the cart there, but it's a total pain to have to get it from the parking lot. I shouldn't complain really, I mean the people are paying customers and I do get payed to get the carts but people figure that because I run the proshop that I just sit there all day answering the phone. Not true..:nono: ...I know its my job to park and empty the carts, but its just courtious to return it and not leave it at the other end of the course.

iyell4
Nov 8, 2005, 05:30 PM
I really have a problem with people that leave their carts in the parking lot after the round...I am one of the kids that has to go a pick them up. I don't mind if you drive up to the club house and leave the cart there, but it's a total pain to have to get it from the parking lot. I shouldn't complain really, I mean the people are paying customers and I do get payed to get the carts but people figure that because I run the proshop that I just sit there all day answering the phone. Not true..:nono: ...I know its my job to park and empty the carts, but its just courtious to return it and not leave it at the other end of the course.
if i slipped you a 20 and said, "i'm gonna be late for an important meeting so i'm gonna hafta leave my powercart in the parking lot", would you still be upset?:confused:


"its just courtious to return it and not leave it"

yes. and when eating at a food court (asian or otherwise) or fast-food restaurant. please, always remember to dispose of your garbage in the trash containers and stack your trays neatly next to or atop the trash receptacle.
it is courteous.
i know there are people paid to wipe the tables, mop the floor, empty the garbage, etc. ... but please do your part to make life a bit easier for that hard-working individual and for other customers who don't want to be forced to clean up after you to clear a place to sit.

East Coast Golfer
Nov 9, 2005, 12:35 PM
if i slipped you a 20 and said, "i'm gonna be late for an important meeting so i'm gonna hafta leave my powercart in the parking lot", would you still be upset?:confused:
Of course we would not be upset, I think its common sense to return the cart to the club house at least.

iyell4
Nov 9, 2005, 12:41 PM
Of course we would not be upset, I think its common sense to return the cart to the club house at least.
yes, and it is 'common sense' to return shopping carts to the appropriate shopping-cart-collection station too at Loblaws or Walmart. this only works when you bring it back to get your deposit (dollar) back at No_Frills or FoodBasics.

hey, why don't u do that at your golf course? .... add a $20 deposit to a powercart rental which you get back when you return your cart, cleaned and gassed up to the club house. I'm sure it'll encourage more people to return their carts.

dks_34
Nov 9, 2005, 12:47 PM
I was playing in Myrtle Beach on the Week-end and the group infront of us had no idea about what to do. There were 3 guys and 1 woman. Everyone would hit and then Proceed to the closest ball. Then everyone would move to the next ball.

Sometimes if 2 balls were down the same side of the fairway they would go to the first one then the second one and then comeback to the balls on the other side of the fairway. It was painful to watch....when we saw the marshall we complained about them and the marshall had said that they had already been warned. And what did they do to supposedly speed up, they didnt allow the woman to hit. Funny enough it wasn't her that was slowing them down. I felt really bad for her, if everyone went to their own ball they would have been fine.

I actually wanted to tee one up and hit them but it was too nice of a day to be upset!

Golfbum
Nov 10, 2005, 09:34 AM
BAN GOLF CARTS! Only people with a walking disability would be allowed to take a power cart:)

Ok ok, I know they won't ban power carts. But maybe when people rent them the Pro Shop employees should inform them to stay on any marked cart path, us the 90 degree rule, keep carts away from greens and tee blocks. Don't leave the cart in the parking lot either. (Although I have never witnessed that being done)

Taking a credit card, drivers licence of the guy renting the cart will make them return it to the Clubhouse (I think my course does that for green fee players)

The problem I see most often, and I am not slamming new golfers with this, a lot of people simply do not know the rules of operating a cart on the course. So if the Pro Shop does their part, and maybe all carts need an operating chart posted on the dash.

Then again, I have seen members at my course drive carts right up to the edges of the greens and they should know better.
There's jerks in every walk of life, some of them are bound to make their way onto the golf courses:D

SW20 MR2
Nov 10, 2005, 11:01 AM
I've never worked at a course, but if I was the cart jockey and someone just told me this, I would be totally fine even if they didn't tip me. It shows that they had enough respect and courtesy to let me know. A simple "Sorry" is good enough. Ofcourse, if he does his multiple times, then I'd have a problem.

if i slipped you a 20 and said, "i'm gonna be late for an important meeting so i'm gonna hafta leave my powercart in the parking lot", would you still be upset?:confused:

Golftool
Nov 10, 2005, 03:41 PM
I cant tell you how many times i have seen guys pull up to the ball or green and park like Ace Ventura (Jim Carrey) in the Pet detective films (Like a glove!) hilarious! but incredibly STUPID on a golf course - do it in your driveway!

tjhayko
Nov 10, 2005, 05:07 PM
Just wonder who makes a conscious effort to park their cart, place their bag or put their pull cart between the green and the next hole?
I think this should be proper etiquette for most golfers if their ball is on the green. It's my pet-peeve when people take forever to putt on the green and then they walk back towards me to retrieve their bag or cart.

I try to do this, but sometimes I'll forget, or need to hit my chip before everybody else in my group can put.

I've seen it get really bad though, with people walking 50 yards back up the fairway to get their pull cart (or power cart!) after putting out.

Queen of the Beach
Nov 14, 2005, 08:59 PM
yes, and it is 'common sense' to return shopping carts to the appropriate shopping-cart-collection station too at Loblaws or Walmart. this only works when you bring it back to get your deposit (dollar) back at No_Frills or FoodBasics.

hey, why don't u do that at your golf course? .... add a $20 deposit to a powercart rental which you get back when you return your cart, cleaned and gassed up to the club house. I'm sure it'll encourage more people to return their carts.
hmm not a bad idea... but then wouldn't you put those cart guys out of a job?

iyell4
Nov 14, 2005, 10:19 PM
hmm not a bad idea... but then wouldn't you put those cart guys out of a job?yes.
cart guys out of jobs = less overhead expenses for golf club = reduced green fees as management passes savings on to loyal patrons = EVERYONE is happy including the cart guy who'd rather be golfing.:)

westbeach
Nov 15, 2005, 08:53 AM
I really have a problem with people that leave their carts in the parking lot after the round...I am one of the kids that has to go a pick them up. I don't mind if you drive up to the club house and leave the cart there, but it's a total pain to have to get it from the parking lot. I shouldn't complain really, I mean the people are paying customers and I do get payed to get the carts but people figure that because I run the proshop that I just sit there all day answering the phone. Not true..:nono: ...I know its my job to park and empty the carts, but its just courtious to return it and not leave it at the other end of the course.
I've seen a guy leave his cart in the parking lot and proceed to back into it causing severe damage to the cart and his vehicle (his bumper got dented in and one of this lights broke). The guy took off but I guess he didn't realize the waiver that his buddy signed. The funny thing is that the Director of Golf is so cool with stuff like that he probably wouldn't even ask the guy for compensation. He would've just gone through insurance, etc. But the fact that the guy took off, the DoG basically made it a living hell for the guy and his buddy. Haha.