What do you guys do for a living?

[golfguy25]

Just curious as to how many of you work in the golf business, is so.... where do you work and what you do?

[TehFlakes]

i don't work in the golf business.

i'm finishing up my networking degree

[AnnikaFan]

still in school :(

working in an accounting firm during the summer

[el tigre]

I used to almost kinda sorta work in the golf business.

I actually work in the magazine business, but back in the late '90's one of the magazines I worked for was Golf Canada (the official magazine of the RCGA). A big part of my job was contacting golf course owners to arrange for distribution of the magazine at the clubhouse and/or through home delivery directly to members.

In fact that was how I was introduced to the game (I never played when I worked at GC) - and I've been hooked ever since!

[duffer_devon]

My full time job is not related to golf (Insurance Adjuster) but I run The Duffer's Dream Tour as a part-time business.

I also host The Goilf Show on AM900 CHML every Thursday night between 6-7pm.

[DubRepublic]

I work in Advertising/Publishing but I'm hoping to make the change someday.

[EDSGolf]

Myrtle Beach golf packager.

[tjhayko]

Not in the golf industry. I'm in IT.

[patricks]

Sadly i work in IT to pay for my golfing habit... instead of the other way around...

[Big Shooter]

Corporate Retail Store Manager, I make the schedules, I schedule GOLF accordingly!;)

[TehFlakes]

IT seems to be the choice of jobs here.
Well any of you want to give me a summer job next year:).
i've done the first part of my A+, need to do the windows part, will be doing my network + this winter.
only 2 more years of school left:)

[patricks]

IT seems to be the choice of jobs here.
Well any of you want to give me a summer job next year:).
i've done the first part of my A+, need to do the windows part, will be doing my network + this winter.
only 2 more years of school left:)
What school are you going to?
Is it a co-op program?

I took Computer Engineering Technology at Niagara College and was lucky to have a 20 month co-op at Big Blue...
Even luckier was that I was able to return once my schooling was done... even though IT hiring was on a down cycle (early 2001)...

[Grass Roots Tour]

Full time machinist / welder fitter.

Part time tour president.

Was asst pro back in 1988 but quickly realized it wasn't for me.

[TpBoomer]

Corporate Communications is my field. Helping others get their message out to their employees. National Sales Meetings, video production, that type of thing. Lucky for me, my boss loves golf as well. We've had 5 "company tournaments" so far this year.:rofl:

[Sir Thomas Guns]

Project coordinator for a store fixtures company during day, golfer in the evening, rockstar at night.

[icarus]

When I was younger I worked @ Nobleton Lakes... now @ Canada Post... Hoping to go full circle

[ForeontheFloor]

In a round about way I am in the golf biz, I own and operate a mobile golf simulator. I don't get to smell the grass but I do get to play some of the worlds best courses anytime I want. www.foreonthefloor.com

[racmbs]

I was in the industry for 4 years......decided to leave as the corporate's upper echelons hunger for money sadly took away my love for the game. At the end of the day, it was only about the money and not the love for the game (hint :D )

Now I'm back in the IT world and lovin' it......although if Taylor Made or Cally came a knockin', I'd be outta there in a flash.

[Flogger]

I'm also in the IT industry. I'd rather be doing something related to golf but IT is too lucrative to just walk away from at this point :( .

So I wonder why we haven't heard from the Angus Glen crowd on this thread. I'm certain there's at least 1/2 dozen on this forum. Am I right??

Oh ya, and there's that guy that works at Royal Ashburn :rofl: . I'm guessing you know who I mean ;) .

[Rocknronny]

I'm also in the IT industry. I'd rather be doing something related to golf but IT is too lucrative to just walk away from at this point :( .

So I wonder why we haven't heard from the Angus Glen crowd on this thread. I'm certain there's at least 1/2 dozen on this forum. Am I right??

Oh ya, and there's that guy that works at Royal Ashburn :rofl: . I'm guessing you know who I mean ;) .This tread was started by the Angus Glen crowd.......:rofl:

[Titan]

Another IT guy here.

[iyell4]

Corporate Communications is my field. Helping others get their message out to their employees. National Sales Meetings, video production, that type of thing. Lucky for me, my boss loves golf as well. We've had 5 "company tournaments" so far this year.:rofl:
i'm envious ... my boss is only into tea parties and pilates.

[mikemakeitso]

Just curious as to how many of you work in the golf business, is so.... where do you work and what you do?I have a question for you... What makes Angus Glen cost $175 a round... Mind you I have never played the track, I hear it's well maintained.

My understanding is it's mostly tournaments that happen there - so the companies typically pickup the tab.

For example - if you had to choose Osprey Valley or St. Andrews vs Angus, where would you play?

Just wondering... and btw Your WebSite is nice...

[HackNSLice]

Insertion Operator for Symcor to support my golf habit.. :rofl:

[countclub]

bus driver ttc with a love & passion for the game, a partime club repair business,just to pay for my own sticks & balls/tees etc.

[KingCobra]

AutoCAD operator for communications company, the good thing is lots of business golf with this job:D

[goodfellow]

Combining two of the previous answers - I'm in IT in insurance. Had to take up golf because of all the company golf days !

[Bogey-Bev]

I'm in the Sales Marketing field working in the Industrial and Material Handling industry. Golf is the 'cherry' on top! LOL - I love this game because it is the only game that cannot be mastered!

[TehFlakes]

what routes do you do?bus driver ttc with a love & passion for the game, a partime club repair business,just to pay for my own sticks & balls/tees etc.

[TehFlakes]

I'm at George Brown in toronto, Casa Loma Campus. Student Rep to boot.

No Co-op But are sixth semester, we do a work placement type of class.
I'm in Computer systems Technology T147

What school are you going to?
Is it a co-op program?

I took Computer Engineering Technology at Niagara College and was lucky to have a 20 month co-op at Big Blue...
Even luckier was that I was able to return once my schooling was done... even though IT hiring was on a down cycle (early 2001)...

[koye]

Another IT guy from an online trading company.

[framer]

i'm a self employed picture framer with two retail locations in the GTA.

[swaaain]

Well, sorry I am late to enter this thread. I work at Angus Glen, I am a pro mannabe, just don't have the time actually play or practice. I work with Golfguy25 in the golf equipment shop. I do the majority of the club fittings whil Chad sell the shoes :p . Ah just buggin you buddy, I work with Focker Sing and AG Rook SM as well. Both Chad and I are trying to turn pro and neither of us really get to play as we are always crazy busy.

My official title is Golf Club Geek, :D at the club. I actually have an edumacation in accounting and business management as well as My deploma in Professional Golf Managemt from Humber.

Someone asked why it is so expensive to play here. My answer to this is that it costs a small fortune to run a golf club. We strive to keep our number 1 in service for the country and we need to have the best staff possible for this. The staff here are taken care very well. Also, in order to keep a golf course in great shape the budget for maintenance must be in the millions.

The product we offer is much different than some of the other courses in the area as our facilities are much different as well. We offer the private club feeling to the general public.

All I can say is if you love to play golf, do not get into the golf industry, you never, ever get to play. :confused:

Swaaain

[247golfing]

I work in the operations area of an investment management firm. We sell stuff like mutual funds, hedge funds, income trust, private money mgmt those sort of this.

[247golfing]

Well, sorry I am late to enter this thread. I work at Angus Glen, I am a pro mannabe, just don't have the time actually play or practice. I work with Golfguy25 in the golf equipment shop. I do the majority of the club fittings whil Chad sell the shoes :p . Ah just buggin you buddy, I work with Focker Sing and AG Rook SM as well. Both Chad and I are trying to turn pro and neither of us really get to play as we are always crazy busy.

My official title is Golf Club Geek, :D at the club. I actually have an edumacation in accounting and business management as well as My deploma in Professional Golf Managemt from Humber.

Someone asked why it is so expensive to play here. My answer to this is that it costs a small fortune to run a golf club. We strive to keep our number 1 in service for the country and we need to have the best staff possible for this. The staff here are taken care very well. Also, in order to keep a golf course in great shape the budget for maintenance must be in the millions.

The product we offer is much different than some of the other courses in the area as our facilities are much different as well. We offer the private club feeling to the general public.

All I can say is if you love to play golf, do not get into the golf industry, you never, ever get to play. :confused:

Swaaain
I don't know if angus glen is a private company so I don't know if you are allowed to say this, but just in general, is there more revenue coming from green fees or events (eg. corporate, wedding)? Is one side sort of subsidizing the other one? Do you consider yourself not only competing in the golf industry but also in the hospitality industry, against the likes of hotels, banquet halls, etc?

[Rocknronny]

We offer the private club feeling to the general public.
SwaaainThis is why we love to play there.:D

[Grass Roots Tour]

Swaain is right, if you wanna play golf, don't get in the biz at the golf course level. You'll only end up hating it and quiting.

[DubRepublic]

Uh oh, I'm trying to beef up and take lessons to work towards getting my CPGA test and going to Humber next year.

[iyell4]

Swaain is right, if you wanna play golf, don't get in the biz at the golf course level. You'll only end up hating it and quiting.ok, then what is the best biz to be in if you wanna play mucho golf? i'm lookin' for a career-change anyways. :)

Thanks!
so far i've heard:
* IT guys
* restaurant execs

[Rocknronny]

ok, then what is the best biz to be in if you wanna play mucho golf? i'm lookin' for a career-change anyways. :)
Looks like them IT guys seem to golf alot..:rofl:

[TpBoomer]

ok, then what is the best biz to be in if you wanna play mucho golf? i'm lookin' for a career-change anyways. :)

My brother gets out at least 2 or 3 times a week and almost always on his company's ticket. He's an exec for a restaurant chain. Gotta play with all those suppliers and sponsors etc.:rofl:

[Ems]

I'm in IT Consulting but my schooling is in Business and Marketing.

I just recently got my Real Estate license and will be doing that part-time in my family's Real Estate company.

I work part-time on this site, so I guess I'm in the golf business too!

Consulting doesn't give you much time to golf though it seems like my managers and partners have a lot of time to golf with clients. I just need to get to that level first! So in the meantime, I need to build up my golf skill.

[Ems]

Looks like them IT guys seem to golf alot..:rofl:
Maybe IT guys are more likely to chat online while "at work"

[Rocknronny]

Maybe IT guys are more likely to chat online while "at work"Im a printer,this is just a day off its summer time...:D

[Big Shooter]

ok, then what is the best biz to be in if you wanna play mucho golf? i'm lookin' for a career-change anyways. :)

Thanks!
so far i've heard:
* IT guys
* restaurant execs
I'm in Retail, I have 5 weeks Vacation a year, I get out a lot because I make the schedule, and I usually work 2 of the 3 weekend NIGHTS to allow me to play more during the day, and even more during the week. ;)
I'm also SINGLE, which helps!:rolleyes:
It's not-so-bad, but it costs a lot of $$$, and gas prices aren't helping!:(

My buddy is a "Director of IT" for a German Auto Manufacturer in the US, he plays 2-3 times a week, rarely breaks 100 (has only played golf for the last 3 years), plays a lot of high-end courses (Medinah, Kemper Lakes, Coe Hill, Whistling Straits, Black Wolf Run, PEBBLE BEACH...and courses in Florida, Vegas, California, Hawaii)....and never has to pay!!!
The golf and meals (lunch at the course, fine dining afterwards) transportation/accomodations are all 'covered' by "vendors":rolleyes:

He told me one vendor took 4 of them out for dinner, and ordered (2) bottles of wine, which he estimates cost $650 per bottle!:eek:

Guess I chose the WRONG CAREER path!

[Titan]

I'm in IT. I never get time off to play golf or have these "Golf" meetings ;)

I would love to find an IT position that would. If any are available please PM me.
(seriously)

[TehFlakes]

no magna?Im a printer,this is just a day off its summer time...:D

[Flogger]

Maybe IT guys are more likely to chat online while "at work"
haha... we work very hard and play even harder :D. This site is a welcome distraction from the job when my brain is about to explode becuase I'm dealing with the ridiculous demands of our clients. Also great for passing time when taking long boring conference calls at my desk. Like um...right now!

[Ems]

haha... we work very hard and play even harder :D.
yikes, that sounds like my company logo

[Rocknronny]

no magna?NOPE!!:mad:

[TehFlakes]

damn...

[framer]

A GOOD JOB OR BUINSNESS DOSE'NT ALWAYS MAKE MONEY. A GOOD BUISNESS PERSON OR GOOD WORKER MAKES MONEY!

MAKE LOTS OF CASH, AND BUY SOME TIME

I WORK HARD SO I CAN GET EVERYTHING I WANT AND DO ANYTHING I WANT TO DO.

ok, then what is the best biz to be in if you wanna play mucho golf? i'm lookin' for a career-change anyways. :)

Thanks!
so far i've heard:
* IT guys
* restaurant execs

[Rocknronny]

A GOOD JOB OR BUINSNESS DOSE'NT ALWAYS MAKE MONEY. A GOOD BUISNESS PERSON OR GOOD WORKER MAKES MONEY!

MAKE LOTS OF CASH, AND BUY SOME TIME

I WORK HARD SO I CAN GET EVERYTHING I WANT AND DO ANYTHING I WANT TO DO.Could not have said it better...

[AnnikaFan]

wow..why is there so many IT peeps..i guess you guys are all grads around that age when IT was hot...like..late 1999-2001..

[wayland]

I also work in IT, as a software developer...contracting.

Hate it. I make a very good living doing this but I'm looking to get into some sort of sales position.

[Frank101]

hey guys,
seen this on another forum and thought it was interesting. So what do you do for a living?

I'm a student at University of Toronto, but I've worked at York Downs and Beacon Hall for the last 8 years during my summer. Dont really know what I want to be, but I'm hoping to open up my own business. Who Knows!

[iyell4]

I'm a student at University of Toronto, ... Dont really know what I want to be, but I'm hoping to open up my own business. Who Knows!
Wow, Frank! A student with a ClubLink membership @ Highland Gate!
Life musta be nice! :)
(i'm obviously jealous)

[Grass Roots Tour]

I'm just gonna watch this thread to see if any good ideas come up. I still don't know what I wanna do for a living yet either. :eek:

[Copetown Woods]

I run a golf course...wierd eh? :D

[Frank101]

lol iyell4, surprisingly enough with the rate at highland gate when I joined and clublink's graduate program, the membership is much more affordable then you think. Plus, since I transferred to UofT from waterloo, and saved a bunch of money on accom. it wasn't so bad and working almost 65 hours a week from May to September is always fun! :eek:

[Carlton]

I play Beacon Hall on average 2x a year. I love that course!

I've still got some growing up to do yet... :D

[EDSGolf]

Myrtle Beach golf packager!

[laxgolf]

I'm a business analyst for a large property management company.

[MP33]

lol iyell4, surprisingly enough with the rate at highland gate when I joined and clublink's graduate program, the membership is much more affordable then you think. Plus, since I transferred to UofT from waterloo, and saved a bunch of money on accom. it wasn't so bad and working almost 65 hours a week from May to September is always fun! :eek:
Is Highland Gate the old Aurora Golf course just off Yonge Street? If so, have they done much to the course? I know they were adding a club house but the course use to be less around 6000 yds. Have the increased length or made any of the holes more difficult?

[golferboy]

Any hot deals??:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I run a golf course...wierd eh? :D

[Golfbum]

I work for Ford Motor Company at the St Thomas Assembly Plant. Employeed there since May 1979. I work in the Paint Shop, have been in that department for 23 years. Various jobs during that time, and have been on my current job for the past 3 1/2 years and it is easy money!

Less than 4 years to go and I'll have my 30 years. Then I can think about retiring at age 53:p

Of course the way the auto industry is going, I might not reach 30 years. Our plant has had a lot of downtime the past two years and it ain't looking any brighter in the future.
Now you guys know how I manage to play so much golf! I actually have a part time job:D Pay is good when I am not working:)

[Mule56]

I work for Ford Motor Company at the St Thomas Assembly Plant. I'm a Logistics Manager for a company that supplies A/C components for the auto industry. Ford, GM AND DCX are our primary customers. The way the big three are going right now I may have to find a new job or hope my marketing boys get some new customers. And yes, Golfbum we do supply your plant, when it's running.
Mule

[racmbs]

I'm a pee on :D

[Grass Roots Tour]

I'm a pee on :D


Me too, but thats Mr. Pee On to you, bud. :D

[AnnikaFan]

I'm a UofT student too :D

[Frank101]

what year are you in Annikafan? what are you studying there? Maybe we could get a round in sometime.

And to MP33 yeah highland is the old aurora. Alot of improvments have been made like new bunker sand and clubhouse, but the length has basically stayed the same. Can't say its not a challenge tho, holy smokes!

[AnnikaFan]

4th year...double major human biology and geography

haha...would love to..except my clubs are back in BC..

how about u? are u at the downtown campus?

[SW20 MR2]

I'm a sales analyst at a large financial services company.

[Ems]

This thread would answer your question

http://www.torontogolfnuts.com/showthread.php?t=2745

[iyell4]

This thread would answer your question

http://www.torontogolfnuts.com/showthread.php?t=2745

anyone else getting this error msg also?:confused:

"No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster (webmaster@torontogolfnuts.com)"

[mirak]

I'm a Director of Inventory Control for a third party logistics company...

Wish I was on sales or business development.... those guys play a lot more golf !

[EDSGolf]

anyone else getting this error msg also?:confused:

"No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster (webmaster@torontogolfnuts.com)"
Yes, I got the same error.

[Farmboy]

I guess I came into this late but anyways. I am an I.T. recruiter or as most put it a headhunter. My partner and I have been in the business for 10 years and still keeping our heads down. As most responses state thanks to the sales side I am golfing at least 2 times a week with various clients but have never won a game yet. Hopefully for those in sales we all know that it is never good to beat the client(or so I keep telling myself that):rofl:

[akrus]

Tournament ice fishing professional...

Eh, nothing that glamourous - Network Administrator in real life.

Hmmm, maybe farmboy can find me a better paying job that frees up more time for golf, in more golf friendly climates. Whata ya' say Frankie? Got an opening for me that meets those requirements????

Albert

[racmbs]

I guess I came into this late but anyways. I am an I.T. recruiter or as most put it a headhunter. My partner and I have been in the business for 10 years and still keeping our heads down. As most responses state thanks to the sales side I am golfing at least 2 times a week with various clients but have never won a game yet. Hopefully for those in sales we all know that it is never good to beat the client(or so I keep telling myself that):rofl:


I second that......I'd be interested in a career move that would allow me to play twice a week. I'd have no issues beating the client either :D

[Bellyhungry]

I am responsible for spending 700+Million for a North American company.

I do get a lot of golf invites to play all over North America and Central America.

[Farmboy]

Tournament ice fishing professional...

Eh, nothing that glamourous - Network Administrator in real life.

Hmmm, maybe farmboy can find me a better paying job that frees up more time for golf, in more golf friendly climates. Whata ya' say Frankie? Got an opening for me that meets those requirements????

Albert
You know I am looking for a caddie.LOL Actually for those who know me make that a ball retriver:help:

I second that......I'd be interested in a career move that would allow me to play twice a week. I'd have no issues beating the client either :D
Well I know that most of my clients do have children so I'll see if I can set up a game. Just want to make sure I make it fair for you on the playing field. :rofl: :rofl:

I am responsible for spending 700+Million for a North American company.

I do get a lot of golf invites to play all over North America and Central America.
How about sending that money this way Belly. I know I can put it to good use.hehe

[Hale's]

Full-time club fitter, the business now has two seasons in.
Played a LOT more golf as a banker!
Which of my customers play the most golf? #1 is a police officer - 5 days a week. #2 is a postal worker - 4 to 5 days a week. Neither play on weekends.

[East Coast Golfer]

Assistant pro at the Rock.

[akrus]

I am responsible for spending 700+Million for a North American company.

I do get a lot of golf invites to play all over North America and Central America.
Are you in charge of paperclip ordering for Exxon??? Cocaine importer???

Too vague, neeed details.

Albert

[Bellyhungry]

Are you in charge of paperclip ordering for Exxon??? Cocaine importer???
Too vague, neeed details.
Albert
Anything more specifics will get me recognized and I might be banned from killing time in this fabulous website...

[akrus]

Anything more specifics will get me recognized and I might be banned from killing time in this fabulous website...
Is that you????

:eek:

Albert

[Carlton]

I'm in IT and our dept. gets invited to about 5 supplier tourneys in the summer and then we get hand-me-down tourneys from other dept heads that can't make it to play that day. It was great when out dept had 8 employees 'cause the 4 die-hard golfers got to play them all. After they downsized the company, there's just 4 in the dept and 3 of us golf so it's a coin toss each tourney.

My friend flips houses for a living. He buys them, guts it and rebuilds the interior and the sells them. He usually does this in the fall to spring and pretty much golfs whenever he wants in the summer. It doesn't hurt him owning a couple rental properties too. The lucky *******...

[nobdyhere]

Another IT guy here

[Da Grape]

Operations Officer for Equity Transfer Services Inc. an approved Transfer Agent by the TSX and registered with SEC. Before that, worked for Computershare Trust Company of Canada (The only Global Transfer Agent in the World).

As life in the Financial Industry is not really for me, I'm doing a career change and currently doing school in the evenings (Computer Graphics Design). My passion and interest always been Computers so I'm looking to follow that desire.

I'm a newbie Golfer, this year is my 2nd year golfing and now scoring 105-110 (Used to be 120+++++ heheh). Still lots of work to do but I have my entire lifetime to learn it :)

Quite happy that I stumbled on with this forum, good bunch of people who all shares the love of golf.

[racmbs]

Well I know that most of my clients do have children so I'll see if I can set up a game. Just want to make sure I make it fair for you on the playing field. :rofl: :rofl:




I said beating the CLIENTS, not CHILDREN you silly philly :D

[Bellyhungry]

Is that you????

:eek:

Albert
I know who I am, but who are you?
-PeeWee

[yuggy]

IT as well....as a systems administrator

[DavidY]

Water and sewer division for a municipality.

Dave

[Grass Roots Tour]

Water and sewer division for a municipality.

Dave

That explains the ears and the light saber. :D

[sdcfan18]

Assistant Pro Shop Manager in the summer... university student in the off season...not a bad situation if you ask me...

[Ems]

Yes, I got the same error.
That's coz Mok moved the thread and combined it with this one.

[Queen of the Beach]

I recently started a new job as a Product Analyst for one of the Top 5 Insurers of Canada. It's kept me pretty busy the past month and hence my lack of posts on TGN. I hope that will change soon with a reshuffling of my schedule this month. ;)

[mikejb]

Work in Commercial Real Estate.

[Thimble]

IT IT IT

[polarbear]

I am in import & export business.

My boss never ask me to go golfing with our clients... he knows I am
better than him :p

I wish I could play golf a lot like you guys on company expenses...

pb

[Greywolf]

I am a peon for a large electrical manufacturer with its only Canadian distribution centre.

[EDSGolf]

I am in import & export business.
Vanderlay Industries? :rofl:

[iyell4]

Vanderlay Industries? :rofl:Import AND Export. :)

[hammer]

I drive a raymound reach (forklift) for a major grocery chain distrabution centre by day and by night I am currently developing 2 websites and operating one. I hate my job and would love to find something new but union senority is a very hard thing to walk away from. Plus I can tell my boss to go you know what himself at least 10 times before I get fired. Unfortunatly I have to work with a bunch a morons who also have that same protection, not to mention all the other union BS.

I am also learning on how to build tattoo machines and am in the works of co owning a tattoo studio in the spring. I also consider myself a real estate investor in training as that is the ultimate goal.

[Section ThirtyOne]

I'm a Project Manager for a large company here in Canada, although my senior management has been dragging me into the Ops Management side. This is really putting a damper on my golf time, as i'm forced to be on-call more and more often. :mad: :help:

[InfranetDog]

IT, systems development in telecommunication industry. Very busy at work because of tight schedules. On average, work 50 to 60 hours per week. Would love to have more time for golfing.

[bOOgeyman]

working full time for a shipping company and part time as a waiter to pay for golf.
I get my fair share of golf with clients and tourney's. Nothing can beat playing golf for free.

[Hefty Lefty]

Holy Hypertext Transfer Protocol Batman! I can't believe how many I.T. people are here. I'm a Network Admin for the Dept. of National Defense. We don't get invited to any of those swanky corporate tournaments because it's usually considered a "conflict of interest" and the Public Service people frown upon that. But I do get to play every Wednesday in a fun league type thing with the military guys. And it helps that my boss is a golf freak like me and I work about an 8 iron away from the first tee (literally).

[iverson589]

Holy Hypertext Transfer Protocol Batman! I can't believe how many I.T. people are here. I'm a Network Admin for the Dept. of National Defense. We don't get invited to any of those swanky corporate tournaments because it's usually considered a "conflict of interest" and the Public Service people frown upon that. But I do get to play every Wednesday in a fun league type thing with the military guys. And it helps that my boss is a golf freak like me and I work about an 8 iron away from the first tee (literally).
I'm a Business Analyst in Electronic Banking. Just graduated a few years ago from U of T. Hardly any time to play golf except on the weekends, which ultimately costs the most.
OR
skip work early and catch the twilight rates...

[Pingnut]

I do sales for a company that does ebilling and prints all of the bills you hate to see in your mailbox.