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blade_runner
Apr 8, 2010, 12:18 AM
If this ain't class, I don't know what it is......:)

Tiger Woods does not owe me an apology, says Mickelson
Tue Apr 6, 6:07 PM
By Steve Keating

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AUGUSTA, Georgia (Reuters) - Phil Mickelson, a fierce rival of Tiger Woods throughout their careers, said the disgraced world number one did not owe him an apology for any damage his philandering might have done to the sport.

Preparing for the U.S. Masters and his first event since a stunning fall from grace amid tawdry revelations about extra-marital affairs, Woods arrived at Augusta National and immediately apologized to his fellow golfers for having dragged them into the controversy.

"He doesn't owe me an apology," said Mickelson, who has had a sometimes heated rivalry with Woods. "I don't know if there's been an individual who has capitalized more on the opportunities that he's brought to the game of golf than myself.

"He doesn't owe me a thing."

The world number three's staunch support of his great rival echoed that of other players who have thrown their backing behind Woods's return to the sport following a self-imposed exile of nearly five months.

The greatest golfer of his generation and perhaps all-time, Woods brought unprecedented attention and growth to the sport as prize money, television ratings and interest sky-rocketed.

Woods also capitalized on his charisma and success, earning a reported $100 million annually from endorsements before the scandal to become the world's first $1 billion athlete.

In the 34-year-old American's absence, there has been concern that the sport has suffered losing fans, sponsors and interest.

"In the last 12 years, he's done remarkable things for this game of golf," said Mickelson, twice a winner at Augusta National. "Everybody's benefited, everybody in this room has benefited, too.

"We've had much more notoriety, need for stories and interest by readers. Television ratings have been higher because of it.

"We can go endlessly, the things he's done for the game.

"I think we are all appreciative and I don't think this is going to have any long term, devastating effects to the game of golf."

(Editing by Justin Palmer)

tomahawktim
Apr 8, 2010, 12:56 AM
I am curious as to the context of D!ck Mickelson's statements.

If, while stopping for some chicken wings at the local Hooter's restaurant, he answered a few questions from Mr. Keating (author of the piece), well and good.

However, if D!ck chose to make a statement at Augusta National in relation to Eldrick's indiscretions then I think he is way out of line.
If, on the other hand, he was responding to specific questions at Augusta National then I think both he and the person asking the questions are out of line.

The Masters is neither the time nor the place for Mickelson to be discussing this business.

It would show class to politely change the subject.
Sorry, blade_runner, I've got to respectfully disagree with your opinion.

blade_runner
Apr 8, 2010, 02:14 AM
Sorry, blade_runner, I've got to respectfully disagree with your opinion.
Don't be sorry, that's your opinion and I respect it.....

LOFT
Apr 8, 2010, 04:44 AM
IMHO, these are well deserved shots at the media.

Tiger apologizes for the distraction he as caused. Why? Because the media has hugely reacted to private indiscretions which are moral, not legal or performance affecting. This collateral damage has certainly negatively affected golf and the the other Tour players.

Phil says no apology necessary. What? How can that be? Phil is saying "Tiger has been great for the game. You guys are the ones causing the sh**storm, not him".

Well played Phil.

laxgolf
Apr 8, 2010, 06:56 AM
I am curious as to the context of D!ck Mickelson's statements.

If, while stopping for some chicken wings at the local Hooter's restaurant, he answered a few questions from Mr. Keating (author of the piece), well and good.

However, if D!ck chose to make a statement at Augusta National in relation to Eldrick's indiscretions then I think he is way out of line.
If, on the other hand, he was responding to specific questions at Augusta National then I think both he and the person asking the questions are out of line.

The Masters is neither the time nor the place for Mickelson to be discussing this business.

It would show class to politely change the subject.
Sorry, blade_runner, I've got to respectfully disagree with your opinion.
IMO this response lost all credibility when you called him D1ck Mickelson. Its obvious you don't like him so your post has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Regardless of where the comments were made, good on him for saying it. What was he supposed to do? Call a press conference?

Weirfan
Apr 8, 2010, 06:58 AM
Good for Phil to put the media in it's place with his comments.

P25
Apr 8, 2010, 07:51 AM
IMO this response lost all credibility when you called him D1ck Mickelson. Its obvious you don't like him so your post has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Regardless of where the comments were made, good on him for saying it. What was he supposed to do? Call a press conference?

Good for Phil to put the media in it's place with his comments.

x2

On a side note, I agreed with Weirfan - :eek: :D

jmac
Apr 8, 2010, 07:59 AM
IMO this response lost all credibility when you called him D1ck Mickelson. Its obvious you don't like him so your post has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Regardless of where the comments were made, good on him for saying it. What was he supposed to do? Call a press conference?

C'mon, give Tomahawk a break, Tiger fans are in desperate need of a new defamatory nickname for Phil. They certainly can't call him Phony anymore.:D:D:D

tomahawktim
Apr 10, 2010, 12:34 AM
....credible enough to comment on, however.

I'm no fan of Mr. Woodlands and have always thought of Phil as D!ck.
Having said that, as far as the substance of Mickelson's comments go, I agree with them.

I just don't see how The Master's is an appropriate forum for Mickelson to comment.

Also, I don't see where Mickelson puts the media in its place.

hamiltonhacker
Apr 10, 2010, 06:07 AM
The question was asked at Phil's press conference at the Masters on April 6th. Here is the transcript from ASAP Sports:
Q. You said Tiger didn't owe you an apology in any way; how surprised were you by the revelations and how surprised were you by the worldwide reaction even leading up to yesterday? Do you think he's hurt the game in any way?
PHIL MICKELSON: Well, you've asked like four questions there, so I'm not really sure which one to answer first.
In the last 12 years, he's done remarkable things for this game of golf. Everybody's benefitted, everybody in this room has benefitted, too. We've had much more notoriety, need for stories and interest by readers. Television ratings have been higher because of it. We can go endlessly, the things he's done for the game. I think we are all appreciative and I don't think this is going to have any long-term, devastating effects to the game of golf, no.

The press conference is put on by Augusta National for the purpose of allowing reporters to ask golfers questions. Phil was asked the above question and he answered it to the point and presumptively honestly. He did not give a non answer or skate around the question as many athletes (or politicians,CEOs etc.) do and he gets criticized for it. Tiger got, rightfully IMHO, criticized for his attempts to control the media yet in this thread people are s***ing on Phil for doing what we say we want all athletes to do, answer the questions asked.

Leftygolfer30
Apr 10, 2010, 06:12 AM
The question was asked at Phil's press conference at the Masters on April 6th. Here is the transcript from ASAP Sports:
Q. You said Tiger didn't owe you an apology in any way; how surprised were you by the revelations and how surprised were you by the worldwide reaction even leading up to yesterday? Do you think he's hurt the game in any way?
PHIL MICKELSON: Well, you've asked like four questions there, so I'm not really sure which one to answer first.
In the last 12 years, he's done remarkable things for this game of golf. Everybody's benefitted, everybody in this room has benefitted, too. We've had much more notoriety, need for stories and interest by readers. Television ratings have been higher because of it. We can go endlessly, the things he's done for the game. I think we are all appreciative and I don't think this is going to have any long-term, devastating effects to the game of golf, no.

The press conference is put on by Augusta National for the purpose of allowing reporters to ask golfers questions. Phil was asked the above question and he answered it to the point and presumptively honestly. He did not give a non answer or skate around the question as many athletes (or politicians,CEOs etc.) do and he gets criticized for it. Tiger got, rightfully IMHO, criticized for his attempts to control the media yet in this thread people are s***ing on Phil for doing what we say we want all athletes to do, answer the questions asked.

Well said!

He answered the friggin question he was asked - very well, I might add.

As with anything, if he had of said "no comment", people would bash him for ducking the question.

Pingeye2_fan
Apr 10, 2010, 06:53 AM
Well said!

He answered the friggin question he was asked - very well, I might add.

As with anything, if he had of said "no comment", people would bash him for ducking the question.

You are right, it would appear obvious that left handed golfers are probably the nicest and most normal people in golf.

laps
Apr 10, 2010, 07:59 AM
I am a huge Tiger Woods fan and that wont change. However, Phil Mickelson is growing on me. He speaks honestly and he takes risks on the golf course - both qualities that I admire.

tomahawktim
Apr 10, 2010, 09:27 AM
If this ain't class, I don't know what it is......:)...

I can now better understand your comments and agree.
Mickelson handled the situation with class.
An honest answer was much better than no comment at all.

Pingeye2_fan
Apr 10, 2010, 09:42 AM
I can now better understand your comments and agree.
Mickelson handled the situation with class.
An honest answer was much better than no comment at all.

Just curious what you don't like about Phil, it seems people are at polar opposites with him.

People either like him or don't, not too many people on the fence with opinions on him.

hogannut
Apr 10, 2010, 04:35 PM
I am curious as to the context of D!ck Mickelson's statements.

If, while stopping for some chicken wings at the local Hooter's restaurant, he answered a few questions from Mr. Keating (author of the piece), well and good.

However, if D!ck chose to make a statement at Augusta National in relation to Eldrick's indiscretions then I think he is way out of line.
If, on the other hand, he was responding to specific questions at Augusta National then I think both he and the person asking the questions are out of line.

The Masters is neither the time nor the place for Mickelson to be discussing this business.

It would show class to politely change the subject.
Sorry, blade_runner, I've got to respectfully disagree with your opinion.

Guess you could say the same thing about Tiger, it isn't the place for him to be discussing his personal life. It would show class for Tiger to not discuss his personal life at the tournament either.

So Phil (D!ck) makes a statement about his fellow competitor that said NOTHING deragatory about Woods off course antics, and he is a d!ck for some reason.

TourIQ
Apr 10, 2010, 04:53 PM
As with anything, if he had of said "no comment", people would bash him for ducking the question.or call him D!ck :rofl:

tomahawktim
Apr 10, 2010, 06:01 PM
Just curious what you don't like about Phil, it seems people are at polar opposites with him...

... and he is a d!ck for some reason.

or call him D!ck :rofl:

It's been almost twenty years since he arrived on Tour.
I didn't care for him then for any number of reasons.
I gave him his D!ckname a long time ago.
It has nothing to do with his current persona or actions.

There is no question that he has comported himself as a gentleman.
Added to that, he has electrified the crowds this Saturday with his play.

Please let's not have another long off-topic thread.

MP33
Apr 10, 2010, 06:09 PM
It's been almost twenty years since he arrived on Tour.
I didn't care for him then for any number of reasons.
I gave him his D!ckname a long time ago.
It has nothing to do with his current persona or actions.

There is no question that he has comported himself as a gentleman.
Added to that, he has electrified the crowds this Saturday with his play.

Please let's not have another long off-topic thread.

I still like FIGJAM as the handle for Phil!

prohacker
Apr 10, 2010, 10:39 PM
Phil and Tiger in a three-way, who was the third? :D

Bwadd
Apr 10, 2010, 10:48 PM
C'mon, give Tomahawk a break, Tiger fans are in desperate need of a new defamatory nickname for Phil. They certainly can't call him Phony anymore.:D:D:D

I think Woods has taken over that role...

All of a sudden he is walking around, with a fake smile, tipping his hat every couple seconds at anyone who is smiling at him.. rediculous!

All that I see when Tiger smile is.... " I felt I was entitled"

Pingeye2_fan
Apr 11, 2010, 12:30 AM
I think Woods has taken over that role...

All of a sudden he is walking around, with a fake smile, tipping his hat every couple seconds at anyone who is smiling at him.. rediculous!

All that I see when Tiger smile is.... " I felt I was entitled"

And signing autographs!!!:eek:

hogannut
Apr 11, 2010, 07:54 AM
And signing autographs!!!:eek:

He won't need to use Hogan's bridge on 12.....just walk right over Ray's Creek.....1st autograph session in 12 years.......way to go Buddah!:hush::help:

hogannut
Apr 11, 2010, 07:57 AM
Phil and Tiger in a three-way, who was the third? :D

Arnold Palmer?:eek::confused: