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slightdraw
May 9, 2010, 05:57 PM
Clark won the big one

Lefty17
May 9, 2010, 05:58 PM
Congrats to him he went out and won it on the weekend. That was some great golf especially today.

Kace
May 9, 2010, 05:59 PM
T-2 second until you get flamed for spoiling the tournament for those that haven't watched it yet.

Bwadd
May 9, 2010, 06:04 PM
Awesome win for a fellow South African!!:D

PingGolfer
May 9, 2010, 06:05 PM
what happened to Westwood on 17 ?

bing23
May 9, 2010, 06:06 PM
nice win for clark. woulda been cool to see any1 of them win it , they all had feel good stories.

Wish i could putt
May 9, 2010, 06:09 PM
what happened to Westwood on 17 ? Fell apart hit it in water:eek: then drop bad chip nice try on out just missed

EDSGolf
May 9, 2010, 06:15 PM
Congrats Clark!

sharkhark
May 9, 2010, 06:19 PM
i like clark and glad he won..but what is with the lame attempts by so many these days to spoil things for others? is it some sick gleeful way to get a kick by being unwilling to post a spoiler alert?
i was watching...so i know the results.....but....
Its like those people excited when they say "FIRST!!!!:hyper::hyper::hyper:"
on perez hilton...in a throwaway thread.

Bellyhungry
May 9, 2010, 06:30 PM
Good win for Timmy!

Nothing like exorcising the demon in a big tournament.

WILL
May 9, 2010, 06:46 PM
T-2 second until you get flamed for spoiling the tournament for those that haven't watched it yet.



Yeah ... thanks a lot for throwing that out there in the title.

Jeffc
May 9, 2010, 06:53 PM
nice to see the hobbit finally win....

3whack
May 9, 2010, 06:55 PM
nice win for clark. woulda been cool to see any1 of them win it , they all had feel good stories.

I agree!

P25
May 9, 2010, 06:57 PM
nice to see the hobbit finally win....
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Andru
May 9, 2010, 07:04 PM
Finally. He played awesome. I feel for westwood though. Westwood is one of my favourite players.

crunch27
May 9, 2010, 07:08 PM
Had the feeling that Westwood wasn't going to do it. He was hitting his driver just dreadful. He was fortunate that he had chances to recover on his second shots. You can't be doing that all day.

ZachOly
May 9, 2010, 07:12 PM
Is Westwood the new Sergio or PM?

WILL
May 9, 2010, 07:20 PM
Is Westwood the new Sergio or PM?



Well he's certainly not the new SirGayo. You don't see Westwood crying that he got a bunch of bad bounces and that the tour does everything to favour Tiger. Wah wah wah all the way home.

3whack
May 9, 2010, 07:23 PM
I agree. In his interviews during both the Masters and the Players, he seemed to be mentally very strong and confident. Completely solid and impressive.

gbrgolf
May 9, 2010, 08:04 PM
Clark won the big one

Clark has had lots of opportunities to win in the past and should have won a few times by now!!
Sometimes it takes a "backdoor" win to get the first win. His ball striking ability is certainly good enough to win more, but winning from the last group is waaaay different than posting a score 45 minutes early!!
He is a great guy and represents the shorter/straight hitters on Tour, which is great!!
g

ninja
May 9, 2010, 09:20 PM
Clark won the big one

Just got home and cranked up the PVR to start watching the final round....thanks for the spoiler dude!!!

pdl16
May 9, 2010, 09:20 PM
I just found this photo of Tim "Frodo" Clark holding "the precious"..

http://img4.allvoices.com/thumbs/people/480/385/25304006-tim-clark.jpg

And here's a picture of his entourage...

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/advg/406~hobbits-posters.jpg

Party at the Shire!!

nice to see the hobbit finally win....

Golden Bear
May 9, 2010, 10:05 PM
Just got home and cranked up the PVR to start watching the final round....thanks for the spoiler dude!!!How brilliant of you to come to a golf discussion board when you've got something PVR'd that you don't want spoiled. That was some fine thinking on your part.

TourIQ
May 9, 2010, 10:33 PM
It was nice to see Tim finally get a big win after 201 starts on the PGA :D
He shot the lowest round of the day and won by 1 stroke so well deserved.

WILL
May 9, 2010, 11:01 PM
How brilliant of you to come to a golf discussion board when you've got something PVR'd that you don't want spoiled. That was some fine thinking on your part.



Yeah, how dare you expect common courtesy. :rolleyes:

ninja
May 10, 2010, 06:51 AM
How brilliant of you to come to a golf discussion board when you've got something PVR'd that you don't want spoiled. That was some fine thinking on your part.

Hey Genius Bear, there was already a PLAYERS thread going and the headline went something like this..... THE PLAYERS..... Discussion and Spoiler Alert

pdl16
May 10, 2010, 08:14 AM
MREOOWW!!

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/7005862/2/istockphoto_7005862-golf-fight.jpg

Hey Genius Bear, there was already a PLAYERS thread going and the headline went something like this..... THE PLAYERS..... Discussion and Spoiler Alert

Richd
May 10, 2010, 10:28 AM
I just found this photo of Tim "Frodo" Clark holding "the precious"..

http://img4.allvoices.com/thumbs/people/480/385/25304006-tim-clark.jpg

And here's a picture of his entourage...

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/advg/406~hobbits-posters.jpg

Party at the Shire!!

never noticed the size of his feet...

ninja
May 10, 2010, 11:44 AM
MREOOWW!!

LOL.....just saying we can discuss (almost) anything on this forum but a little discretion with the subject line would be hugely appreciated. I was avoiding the Tour Talk section but timed it just perfectly that Clark Wins!!! was front and center on the home page.

Bern
May 10, 2010, 12:15 PM
I think it's kind of ridiculous expecting people to put spolier alert in a golf forum. If you have something PVR'd then don't go to a golf discussion board.

Golden Bear
May 10, 2010, 12:16 PM
Hey Genius Bear, there was already a PLAYERS thread going and the headline went something like this..... THE PLAYERS..... Discussion and Spoiler Alert

I don't recall even discussing what threads were and weren't in existence.

What I said in my post was, essentially, that if you've recorded a golf event and don't want it spoiled, you should probably avoid visiting golf discussion forums ... where the outcome of the event is certain to be discussed.

If you simply can't stay away from the board at a time when you'd be well-advised to do so, then you may have internet-addiction issues.

No one should have to refrain from discussing the outcome of the event -- even in thread titles -- just because YOU recorded it and YOU couldn't keep yourself away from the internet.

It's not a "spoiler" if the event is broadcast live. It's only a "spoiler" if the event is tape-delayed.

guitarman
May 10, 2010, 12:34 PM
I don't recall even discussing what threads were and weren't in existence.

What I said in my post was, essentially, that if you've recorded a golf event and don't want it spoiled, you should probably avoid visiting golf discussion forums ... where the outcome of the event is certain to be discussed.

If you simply can't stay away from the board at a time when you'd be well-advised to do so, then you may have internet-addiction issues.

No one should have to refrain from discussing the outcome of the event -- even in thread titles -- just because YOU recorded it and YOU couldn't keep yourself away from the internet.

It's not a "spoiler" if the event is broadcast live. It's only a "spoiler" if the event is tape-delayed.

Although I agree with some of what you said, keep in mind that its really a courtesy thing here. If you post the results in a thread title knowing full well that it will spoil it for some then your being a bit of a jerk.At least posting "spoiler alert" in the thread title will give a reader the option not to go in to the thread.

golfnguru
May 10, 2010, 12:39 PM
Although I agree with some of what you said, keep in mind that its really a courtesy thing here. If you post the results in a thread title knowing full well that it will spoil it for some then your being a bit of a jerk.At least posting "spoiler alert" in the thread title will give a reader the option not to go in to the thread.

Yep, "CLARK WINS!!! - SPOILER ALERT" would have solved everything.:)

Reminds me of this SNL skit. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072562/quotes?qt0402910)

guitarman
May 10, 2010, 12:44 PM
Yep, "CLARK WINS!!! - SPOILER ALERT" would have solved everything.:)

Reminds me of this SNL skit. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072562/quotes?qt0402910)

"Players Championship - Winner *Spoiler Alert*"

I'll cut you some slack and just assume you weren't smart enough to figure it out.:)

Golden Bear
May 10, 2010, 12:48 PM
Although I agree with some of what you said, keep in mind that its really a courtesy thing here. If you post the results in a thread title knowing full well that it will spoil it for some then your being a bit of a jerk.At least posting "spoiler alert" in the thread title will give a reader the option not to go in to the thread.


I won't repeat what I've already said, but will expand on some of what I said.

If someone records an event and wants to avoid having the outcome of that event spoiled, they do certain things to protect the mystery. For example, if they're in their car and listening for traffic on 680, they turn away before the sportscast comes on. They avoid turning on The Golf Channel. They avoid turning on any TV station with a ticker that might show sporting results.

If someone turns on 680 and the sportscast comes on, is 680 in the wrong for spoiling the outcome? Is The Golf Channel? Of course not. They're all outlets where you expect the outcome to be openly discussed.

This is a golf discussion forum. It's reasonable to expect people to discuss the outcome, and since results are posted in thread titles after just about every event, it's reasonable to expect that you'll come here and NOT see an outcome in a thread title.

The way I see it, the person who has had the event "spoiled" made a choice: they decided that their need to come to Toronto Golf Nuts was greater than their need to keep the outcome of the event a mystery. But they had every reason to think there was a realistic possibility -- even a probability -- that coming here would spoil the outcome for them.

golfnguru
May 10, 2010, 01:21 PM
"Players Championship - Winner *Spoiler Alert*"

I'll cut you some slack and just assume you weren't smart enough to figure it out.:)

OP posted at 6:57pm, even by saying "Winner" in the title would indicate that there was no playoff, which was the main story over the final few holes and thus would ruin suspense for the viewer.

I'll cut you some slack and just assume you weren't smart enough to figure it out.:)

Kace
May 10, 2010, 01:42 PM
I won't repeat what I've already said, but will expand on some of what I said.

If someone records an event and wants to avoid having the outcome of that event spoiled, they do certain things to protect the mystery. For example, if they're in their car and listening for traffic on 680, they turn away before the sportscast comes on. They avoid turning on The Golf Channel. They avoid turning on any TV station with a ticker that might show sporting results.

If someone turns on 680 and the sportscast comes on, is 680 in the wrong for spoiling the outcome? Is The Golf Channel? Of course not. They're all outlets where you expect the outcome to be openly discussed.

This is a golf discussion forum. It's reasonable to expect people to discuss the outcome, and since results are posted in thread titles after just about every event, it's reasonable to expect that you'll come here and NOT see an outcome in a thread title.

The way I see it, the person who has had the event "spoiled" made a choice: they decided that their need to come to Toronto Golf Nuts was greater than their need to keep the outcome of the event a mystery. But they had every reason to think there was a realistic possibility -- even a probability -- that coming here would spoil the outcome for them.

What if they had to tend to something in the BST like respond to a post or check up on an address for the meeting place they are heading to hence why they had to record the end of the tournament?

I'm just throwing this out there, but there are reason's that someone may have to visit TGN that doesn't make them an "internet-addict" and deserving to have the tournament outcome spoiled.

Golden Bear
May 10, 2010, 02:07 PM
What if they had to tend to something in the BST like respond to a post or check up on an address for the meeting place they are heading to hence why they had to record the end of the tournament?


Possibly, but how many of the complainers would that really apply to? Probably none. So no, I don't think that's valid. And really, it's pretty easy to load the page and press "Page Down" without viewing any thread titles. BST is miles apart from Tour Talk, and it's easy to access PMs without viewing thread titles, too. It's a matter of trying to avoid finding out the results -- the onus shouldn't be on everyone else.

I mean, expecting people to put "Spoiler" in their thread titles is like walking into Golf Town and expecting there to be a sign saying "Warning: staff may be discussing the outcome of today's tournament."

guitarman
May 10, 2010, 02:58 PM
the onus shouldn't be on everyone else.



I don't think the onus is on anyone but to at least try to respect that it may spoil for others. Its not like your rights are being violated here. I would never intentionally spoil it for someone else by purposely posting a thread title with a spoiler. I know it would ruin it for some and why would I want to do that on purpose?
We are all supposed to be friends here with a common interest. Would you call up your buddy on the phone and tell him who won even though you knew that he had recorded it and had not yet watched it yet? I mean after all, he should know better than to answer the phone. Right?

Golden Bear
May 10, 2010, 03:15 PM
I don't think the onus is on anyone but to at least try to respect that it may spoil for others. Its not like your rights are being violated here.Nor are the rights of someone who recorded the event.
I would never intentionally spoil it for someone else by purposely posting a thread title with a spoiler. I didn't suggest anyone should intentionally try to spoil an outcome. And I don't think anyone has posted a thread title with the intention of spoiling an outcome -- they've posted such thread titles for the purpose of giving a title to a discussion thread. There's no malicious intent here.

I merely said they should be free to discuss it openly -- even in thread titles -- without someone complaining that they didn't watch the event live and didn't want to know who wins.

I come back to what I said from the start -- it's a golf discussion board. People shouldn't get indignant when they come to a golf discussion board and see an outcome in a thread title. They should EXPECT that -- because it happens all the time.


We are all supposed to be friends here with a common interest. Would you call up your buddy on the phone and tell him who won even though you knew that he had recorded it and had not yet watched it yet? I mean after all, he should know better than to answer the phone. Right?Actually, I'd put it this way. If you had recorded the event and showed up to meet some friends for drinks, and they didn't know you hadn't watched it (but were familiar with the concept of recording and viewing later), would they be expected to stop talking about the tournament? Perhaps, if they know that you regularly record tournaments. But if it's me, I walk in the room and say "Don't tell me who won -- I recorded it."

And personally, I don't post the outcomes of tournaments in thread titles. But people who do usually were not even aware they'd be spoiling things, and they get vilified here by people who seem surprised that a golf discussion board actually discusses the outcome of tournaments.

Is it a nice courtesy to warn of spoilers? Absolutely. I'm not going to disagree with you on that point. Do people who forget to warn of spoilers, or who have not considered that they might be spoiling things, deserve to be thumped for a thread title? No.

If you record a sporting event, you avoid things. You avoid news and sports broadcasts, you tell your friends "don't tell me who won" ... why would you not also avoid going to websites devoted to that sport?

WILL
May 10, 2010, 03:25 PM
Wow, you really don`t understand common courtesy, do you?

Everyone uses the board differently. ie I normally just click "new posts" rather than search through the entire thing line by line. Thereby, everything thats new comes up regardless of the title or sub section it's in.

Is it really that difficult to be part of a community that understands and respects other people's desires ??


But yeah, feel free to keep arguing your point cause I suspect you still don't get it.

mpare
May 10, 2010, 03:53 PM
A little thoughtfulness doesn't seem that much to ask for, but for some I guess it is. That's a shame.

Ignatius Reilly
May 10, 2010, 04:44 PM
I've watched the issue of "spoilers" come up on sports-themed boards for... about a dozen years.

Some people just don't learn. Some people are selfish, and always will be.

In the past, I figured it was selfish to spoil the outcome for others by not putting "spoiler" in the subject line.

But over the years I've changed my mind 180 degrees. Why on earth should every person around the web (and even tgn has lots of members in different time zones) have to figure out what is broadcast and when for your local viewing? Why should they have to write tepid bland "XXX event (spoiler)" titles to all their threads? How do they know how long to wait until every other possible member might have had the chance to finish whatever they were doing and eventually watch their copy of the event?

Why isn't the onus on the reader to stay away from TGN until they've had a chance to watch?

Tiger withdrew yesterday and it was posted immediately. Should that have been a spoiler too? "Some golfer's schedule has changed (spoiler)". Wouldn't want to say which golfer, or what part of his (or her) schedule....

Like Golden Bear, I do believe it would be courteous to use spoilers where possible. But I'm not naive enough to expect it. And I won't go on TGN if I've PVRed a tourney until I've had a chance to watch it.

Bellyhungry
May 11, 2010, 09:28 AM
Tim Clark's wife is hot!

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/98940886.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F5809073B0FD64F328 50CDA7182AD7D35BEABE1EC40EFD12BD

Jeffc
May 11, 2010, 09:43 AM
personally I can't watch sports taped. It's live or nothing.

As for the spoiler, if you don't want to find out, stay off the internet, especially golf sites. Easy Peasy.

wlorcb
May 11, 2010, 12:14 PM
Tim Clark's wife is hot!

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/98940886.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F5809073B0FD64F328 50CDA7182AD7D35BEABE1EC40EFD12BD

Hey, where's the spoiler for this:rofl:

Bellyhungry
May 11, 2010, 12:32 PM
Hey, where's the spoiler for this:rofl:

Here's the spoiler, as in spoiling the image:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2006/11/fat_guy_skinny_girls.jpg

pdl16
May 11, 2010, 12:56 PM
You know what they say about hobbits with big feet..

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EHepF1NuRGM/SjeH72lXEWI/AAAAAAAAD3s/4KaNQsLLA-A/s400/hobbit_feet.jpg

Just imagine how hot Craig Parry's wife must be!

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020827/sp6.jpg

Another Hobbit with the precious.

WILL
May 11, 2010, 03:53 PM
You know what they say about hobbits with big feet..

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EHepF1NuRGM/SjeH72lXEWI/AAAAAAAAD3s/4KaNQsLLA-A/s400/hobbit_feet.jpg

Just imagine how hot Craig Parry's wife must be!

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020827/sp6.jpg

Another Hobbit with the precious.




" It rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again. " :rofl:

Golden Bear
May 12, 2010, 12:24 PM
Wow, you really don`t understand common courtesy, do you?

Everyone uses the board differently. ie I normally just click "new posts" rather than search through the entire thing line by line. Thereby, everything thats new comes up regardless of the title or sub section it's in.

Is it really that difficult to be part of a community that understands and respects other people's desires ??


But yeah, feel free to keep arguing your point cause I suspect you still don't get it.


Ironically, you ignored some very important points in your response, but thank you for being so condescending. Now I remember why I hate internet discussion boards. Much appreciated.