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WILL
Aug 3, 2010, 10:16 PM
TW is sitting 9th in the standings and only the top 8 automatically qualify.

The Troll
Aug 3, 2010, 10:19 PM
He picks him IF Tiger wants to go. Given the rowdiness of the Ryder Cup he may not want to deal with the crowd.

I say Tiger will tell Pavin he doesn't want to go.

WILL
Aug 3, 2010, 10:20 PM
Hmm, I never considered that option.

Pingeye2_fan
Aug 3, 2010, 10:54 PM
He picks him IF Tiger wants to go. Given the rowdiness of the Ryder Cup he may not want to deal with the crowd.

I say Tiger will tell Pavin he doesn't want to go.

That makes sense.

Malibook
Aug 3, 2010, 11:08 PM
If Tiger wants to be picked, he will be picked.

I think Tiger wants to play but I have a feeling that he won't play if he doesn't qualify on his own.

Bentley01
Aug 3, 2010, 11:29 PM
Tiger plays, if he's asked (and he will be). No way does he break his Ryder Cup string. Declining an offer (assuming it comes) would be akin to "quitting", "not being 'American'". He could no longer intimidate the other golfers in contention.

Big Shooter
Aug 4, 2010, 01:06 AM
Scott "Ca-ching" Hoch gets my Vote!! :D

...but SERIOUSLY, Tiger will BE picked regardless...it ain't about Winning, it's all about SPONSORS and their TV RATINGS!!!

Greywolf
Aug 4, 2010, 03:59 AM
Tiger plays, if he's asked (and he will be). No way does he break his Ryder Cup string. Declining an offer (assuming it comes) would be akin to "quitting", "not being 'American'".

Agreed, TW will go. If he chose to not play just imagine the bad press he would receive. I think he has already had enough of that this year.

mpare
Aug 4, 2010, 05:04 AM
My guess is that Tiger will be picked, if as others have said he wants to play. Otherwise, Corey Pavin and the rest of the team would spend their time answering press questions about why Tiger is not there. Under those circumstances, his absence would be more distracting and hurtful to the team than his presence.

Bellyhungry
Aug 4, 2010, 06:03 AM
Agree with many that he will be picked....

If Pavin does not pick him, he will be blasted and crucified.

If Tiger does not want to play, he will be blasted and crucified.

The only way Tiger won't play if he comes up with an injury story.

ZachOly
Aug 4, 2010, 06:17 AM
...but SERIOUSLY, Tiger will BE picked regardless...it ain't about Winning, it's all about SPONSORS and their TV RATINGS!!!

Came here to say this.

It's not about Tiger, it's about the ratings.

dekker
Aug 4, 2010, 06:27 AM
Corey is screwed. He doesn't need him or want him and hopes Woods will make it easy for him by sitting out if he doesn't win soon. His Rydercup record was mediocre even when he was in form.

Fat Cat
Aug 4, 2010, 07:52 AM
What is this? A classic 'between a rock and and hard place'. Either way Pavin will be screwed by Mr. Zipper-Gate.

With Tiger's pre-agreed acceptance, Pavin exemption-picked the World No.1 who is not playing well. And Pavin will sell his soul to have Tiger ending up with a winning records for the competition.

You know what, I personally think that Pavin still have his old fire and say, F you, I love men that live large, come Johnny Boy [as in loud-pants Daly] and T-W and lets whack the Gei-cheez out of the EU punks!

Yet again, with my limited recent viewing of Ryder Cup matches, the only Tiger game I still remembered is the one he fought with Ernie into the dark... Oh, F me, it is actually the President's Cup.... you see my point.

WILL
Aug 4, 2010, 03:28 PM
Maybe the OTHER Johnny will come out of retirement wielding a long putter to cure the yips and show these youngins how to hit high, soft fades to half yard increments.

Bluefan75
Aug 4, 2010, 04:18 PM
Maybe the OTHER Johnny will come out of retirement wielding a long putter to cure the yips and show these youngins how to hit high, soft fades to half yard increments.

I want to see trap-draws.

ZachOly
Aug 4, 2010, 04:26 PM
If you don't take Tiger, then who do you go with? Ben Crane? Ricky Barnes? LOL

crunch27
Aug 4, 2010, 06:03 PM
If Tigger goes, who does he take to the dinners and the ceremonies?

Big Shooter
Aug 4, 2010, 11:18 PM
If you don't take Tiger, then who do you go with? Ben Crane? Ricky Barnes? LOL

Scott Hoch of course...he's MONEY!!! :D

Bellyhungry
Aug 5, 2010, 06:50 AM
To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
To run where the brave dare not go
To right the unrightable wrong
To love pure and chaste from afar
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star


What's with this? Signing your high school yearbook?

Lefty17
Aug 5, 2010, 07:29 AM
If Tigger goes, who does he take to the dinners and the ceremonies?

He's got options....:hush:

gatsby
Aug 5, 2010, 09:48 PM
The only safe one is his mother. Anyone else would have way too much on their plates to handle.

Bwadd
Aug 5, 2010, 10:34 PM
If you don't take Tiger, then who do you go with? Ben Crane? Ricky Barnes? LOL

Hell ya Rickey Barnes... he has some of the most consistent play at the majors last year and this year, I would defintely take Rickey!

Pingeye2_fan
Aug 5, 2010, 10:42 PM
If Tigger goes, who does he take to the dinners and the ceremonies?

He goes alone, you don't take a sandwich to a buffet.

Bellyhungry
Aug 6, 2010, 06:12 AM
He goes alone, you don't take a sandwich to a buffet.

Many of them are days old items on the buffet table....A fresh sandwich could be a pretty good choice.

As for Tiger, he said in the press conference that he intended to play his way onto the team. Well, it looks like he really does not want to play in the Ryder Cup.

Playing in Europe without Tiger? Bye bye rating.

Lund Pro V
Aug 6, 2010, 07:09 AM
I watched the Ryder Cup before Tiger played and I will continue to watch it without him. The way he is playing now, it is a waste of time asking him to come out.

They'd be better off taking someone in Q-school as they would probably be more consistent.

And it isn't all about the ratings either. The money is there with or without viewers.

The Troll
Aug 6, 2010, 08:11 AM
Many of them are days old items on the buffet table....A fresh sandwich could be a pretty good choice.


From what I saw, Tiger doesn't seem to like fresh. :D

Ignatius Reilly
Aug 7, 2010, 08:20 AM
Corey is screwed. He doesn't need him or want him and hopes Woods will make it easy for him by sitting out if he doesn't win soon. His Rydercup record was mediocre even when he was in form.

His record might even be worse than mediocre. And that adds to Pavin's dilemma.

Tiger's played in 5 of the past 6 RCs. The US has won 2 and lost 4. One of the ones the US won was 2008, when Tiger wasn't playing.

From golf.about.com - a list of the US team members with the worst winning percentages who've played 15 or more matches:

Curtis Strange, 6-12-2, .350
Jim Furyk, 8-13-3, .396
Stewart Cink, 4-7-4, .400
Paul Azinger, 5-7-3, .433
Raymond Floyd, 12-16-3, .435
Tiger Woods, USA, 10-13-2, .440
Phil Mickelson, 10-14-6, .448

Some pretty good players with bad records there, and Phil is right behind Tiger, but still it hardly points to an automatic Captain's Choice.

Funny that Strange leads the list, and was subsequently a brilliant captain....

Lefty17
Aug 7, 2010, 08:38 AM
I say no to picking him. They won the last Ryder Cup with him on the shelf for his knee surgery. He hasn't had the greatest RC record either. Maybe him being in a team environment plus being under the gun might help him find his game and he may have a little fun.

I say don't pick him. There are better options at this point. But I could change my tune in 6wks.

ZachOly
Aug 7, 2010, 09:05 AM
I say don't pick him. There are better options at this point. But I could change my tune in 6wks.

...like?

Lefty17
Aug 7, 2010, 09:28 AM
...like?

Team environment...

Rickie Fowler... great in the Walker Cup along with Overton, Bubba, Barnes.

Tiger hasn't had overwhelming success at the Ryder Cup... that's why if he's not playing well I leave him off the team.

Look where personality got them last time... Boo wouldn't be a bad pick if he keeps playing well.

Wish i could putt
Aug 7, 2010, 09:36 AM
Question is how will the Wives of the othere players fell about have Tiger there?:nono::nono: I think its time for the younger boys to get there shot.

shankuverymuch
Aug 7, 2010, 10:07 AM
How can Pavin not pick the #2 ranked player in the world ?

Lefty17
Aug 7, 2010, 10:10 AM
How can Pavin not pick the #2 ranked player in the world ?

I wouldn't go that far.... Phil could shot 76 and there goes the #1 ranking.

tasker
Aug 7, 2010, 11:14 AM
Last time I checked there was no TEAM in Tiger - he is a liability and I believe his inability to be a team player over the years has hurt the US team.

Oh, and he is sucking big time right now despite "driving it on a string" very recently.

But if he does play I have a suggestion - they could get a kajillion hard hats and chest protectors with Tiger's, er the US logo on them and at least protect the spectators while getting a few marketing kudos.

And I guess Phil could benefit as well, given his ability to ping a few onlookers this week.

tasker
Aug 7, 2010, 11:15 AM
And I guess they could sell a few "I was hit by a Tiger Woods drive today" tshirt. Although they may need to have a back panel with some checkboxes for all of the recent tournaments he has recently played, except of course the Open Championship, where he "drove it on a string".

tarheel23
Aug 7, 2010, 12:13 PM
I know he is the "#1 player" but right now John Daly is playing better than TW. I think unless he pulls together some kind of miracle at Whistling Straits next week, Pavin needs to leave him off the team. It will be the tough choice but the one that he needs to make in the end. A badly struggling Tiger could prove to be a major distraction for the US team. This coupled with all the other issues he brings may end up being more of a distraction then he might be worth. The press in Europe will be all over the team if Tiger is there & not playing well.

No matter what Pavie does he will be crucified in the US press if they lose the Ryder Cup.

Malibook
Aug 7, 2010, 12:39 PM
If you don't take Tiger, then who do you go with? Ben Crane? Ricky Barnes? LOLAt this point I would go with Hunter Mahan (10), Stewart Cink (13), Rickie Fowler (15), and Bubba Watson (17).

And yes, I would take Barnes over Woods.

mpare
Aug 7, 2010, 03:11 PM
I agree with not taking Woods regardless of his world ranking. The main reason is that he's playing awful golf, and he'd be first to acknowledge that. His match play record, even when he was playing well, was mediocre. One can only imagine how he'd fare now that he's playing so poorly. Finally, if he doesn't turn things around at the PGA I suspect that he would tell Mr. Paving that he ought not be picked.

At this point I would go with Hunter Mahan (10), Stewart Cink (13), Rickie Fowler (15), and Bubba Watson (17).

And yes, I would take Barnes over Woods.

Bellyhungry
Aug 7, 2010, 04:36 PM
Unless something drastic happens next week at Whistling Straits, I think Tiger just gave Pavin the out to not select him.

And I think Tiger will be the first one to admit that he does not deserve to be picked. At this stage, he is worrying about more about getting back on track rather than playing the Ryder Cup.

CMSW
Aug 7, 2010, 04:38 PM
I huge on Tiger as a player, but I say no to picking him for the Ryder Cup this year. He said it himself; he doesn't have time to practice nor does he really want to. His heart's not in it...all the great athletes practiced religously in order to stay on top as he did in the past. If he's not staying in golf shape why pick him.

Once the divorce is over and he can focus better on golf he will be back to normal. I also think that when Mickleson takes over the #1 spot and Westwood moves him to #3 he will be more motivated than ever.

ZachOly
Aug 7, 2010, 05:34 PM
Guys, Phil shot +1 today when he could have made his move into the lead....I think he should step aside and let someone else play in the Ryder Cup

Golden Bear
Aug 7, 2010, 06:15 PM
Agree with many that he will be picked....

If Pavin does not pick him, he will be blasted and crucified.

If Tiger does not want to play, he will be blasted and crucified.

The only way Tiger won't play if he comes up with an injury story.


I suspect you're right.

I imagine Tiger would WANT to decline ... and I can't say I'd blame him. If I were him, I'd want this year to be over as soon as possible so I could take time off and regroup. I'd pack it in after the PGA.

But you're right -- he'll be blasted if he does that. And this is a year when there is unbelievable pressure on him to work on his public image. Turning down a Ryder Cup invitation would go against this.

Pavin would probably be doing Tiger a favour by NOT inviting him and then shouldering the heat for the decision.

Crap, I've actually started feeling sorry for Tiger. I feel so dirty.

crunch27
Aug 7, 2010, 06:19 PM
Tigger is on a golf course he has "OWNED" for the last 10 years. He is playing like CR*P right now and looks like he doesn't want to be out there. He seems to be just "going through the motions".

I say, if he doesn't win at Whistling Straits next week, which is highly unlikely if he can't get the ball in the fairway; he will pack it in for the rest of the year. That will save Pavin from having to make a decision.

The Troll
Aug 7, 2010, 06:24 PM
The lack of porn stars native to Wales has not gone unnoticed by Mr. Woods. :p

tarheel23
Aug 7, 2010, 11:00 PM
The lack of porn stars native to Wales has not gone unnoticed by Mr. Woods. :p


Or maybe he has seen them & wants to stay away...FAR AWAY!

Bellyhungry
Aug 8, 2010, 05:41 PM
Looks like Phil should ask to be left off the team as well after today....

Bern
Aug 9, 2010, 12:43 PM
Out of the 8 guaranteed at the moment I would like to see the following matchups.

Phil Mickelson 301 Lee WESTWOOD 294
Hunter Mahan 292 Luke DONALD 282
Jim Furyk 275 Graeme MCDOWELL 286
Steve Stricker 282 Padraig HARRINGTON 292
Jeff Overton 297 Ian POULTER 288
Anthony Kim 290 Rory MCILROY 299
Matt Kuchar 286 Edoardo MOLINARI 286
Lucas Glover 296 Justin ROSE 286

Tiger shouldn't be picked IMO. Fowler, Johnson, Holmes would all be good candidates for a 7500 yard par 71. I'll be interested to see how it shakes out.

woody
Aug 9, 2010, 01:17 PM
great Poll question by the way.

ZachOly
Aug 9, 2010, 02:40 PM
Wait...how many captains picks does the USA have?

Are the top 8 are automatically in and then 4 CPs?

Lollihed
Aug 9, 2010, 03:27 PM
I say No Tiger in the Ryder Cup,but no idea how it plays out to get to that.
;)