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  • Definition of choking

    Trying to do something that you already know how to do.

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    Failing to do something you already know how to do.

    I tried to hit my 3 wood well today... and I did.
    I tried to hit my 7 iron well today... and I choked (something about hitting a green in regulation) .
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      Re: Definition of choking

      Fred, I like your words better. Can I borrow them or have you TM'd them?

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        I have a lock on the choking thing, but no TM on the phrase. Hmm... I'm doing something wrong here.
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          Re: Definition of choking

          Failing to execute the familiar because of fear. This concept I know only too well.
          This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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          • #6
            Re: Definition of choking

            Originally posted by Fredk View Post
            Failing to do something you already know how to do.

            .

            Failing to execute due to perceived pressure.
            Canada's best golf instructor is Nick Starchuk.

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              Re: Definition of choking

              Is this thread referring to my short game ?

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                Re: Definition of choking

                Originally posted by NickStarchuk View Post
                Trying to do something that you already know how to do.
                Allowing conscious thoughts to block the superior performance of our nonconscious swing habits.

                The conscious mind does not deliver. It only calls in the order. Deliveryis the business of the nonconscious and it does not judge the commands you give it. It only acts on the commands. And don’t forget: you will only be able to retrieve what you have installed.

                We know now from science outside of golf that trying to execute a motor movement by using conscious mental process actually introduces blockers to and inhibits said execution. It's best to leave these to the unconscious part of our system for optimal performance.
                Last edited by Shadow; Nov 12, 2010, 08:34 AM.

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                  Re: Definition of choking

                  Originally posted by Shadow View Post
                  Allowing conscious thoughts to block the superior performance of our nonconscious swing habits.

                  The conscious mind does not deliver. It only calls in the order. Deliveryis the business of the nonconscious and it does not judge the commands you give it. It only acts on the commands. And don’t forget: you will only be able to retrieve what you have installed.

                  We know now from science outside of golf that trying to execute a motor movement by using conscious mental process actually introduces blockers to and inhibits said execution. It's best to leave these to the unconscious part of our system for optimal performance.
                  Very, very, very true.

                  The conscious mind gets in the way, because we don't trust the unconscious mind to do what it knows how to do. Try walking down a flight of steep stairs while thinking about HOW to walk down them (hold on to the rail).

                  When a pressure situation arises, we trust less in our abilities and try to consciously figure out what to do. It almost never works = choke.

                  When you try to make a swing change and you haven't quite perfected it, you will choke a LOT.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Definition of choking

                    Malcolm gladwell wrote a wonderful article on the difference between choking and panic

                    enjoy

                    A Dream, a Temptation, and the Longest Night of the Second World War THE BOMBER MAFIA Malcolm Gladwell’s exploration of how technology and best intentions collide in the heat of war Learn More Buy …

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                    • #11
                      Re: Definition of choking

                      Originally posted by coshea View Post
                      Malcolm gladwell wrote a wonderful article on the difference between choking and panic

                      enjoy

                      http://www.gladwell.com/2000/2000_08_21_a_choking.htm
                      Great read, thank you.

                      I need the follow up article though - 5 easily learned-and-applied steps to overcoming choking and panic.
                      Everybody wants a slice of winner - dekker

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                      • #12
                        Re: Definition of choking

                        Actually, the Thread may aim to define it as we all know what it is but cannot agree on how to articulate it...

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                        Last edited by RiskyBusiness; Feb 21, 2011, 02:11 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Definition of choking

                          I personally do not like the word choke. No one tries to choke. I understand what it means, that due to pressure that they fail to execute.

                          A golfer that has no worse than a par for the last two rounds of a tournament and on the last two holes gets a bogey and a double, did they choke, or did the odds of golf finally catch up to them? Did they try and do something to win and just fail to do it because it was a higher risk shot.

                          Pressure certainly can affect a golfer, some positive and some negative, but if is negative, did they choke?

                          Jim F's last win, he was losing strokes on the final holes and he made a great bunker shot to pull it off. Was he choking and all of sudden he didn't? I was cheering for him, simply because I did not want someone to say boy he really choked.

                          Maybe I don't like the word because it is so negative and I would prefer a term that is more constructive.

                          I personally in the past have responded well to pressure, but in a round with Freddielinkster this coming week, if I blow a shot on the final hole to "win" the round, did I choke, or did I just make a bad shot that I am capable of at anytime.
                          Sometimes starting at the end, is the key to finding the beginning.

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                            Originally posted by PingGolfer View Post
                            Is this thread referring to my short game ?
                            No, it's referring to my game in general

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                              Re: Definition of choking

                              I think choking is actually a two fold issue: one is the over thinking, the other is anxiety. Anxiety leads to abnormal tension in your muscles and that leads to negative swing changes.

                              It is the extra emotion of anxiety that really defines choking.
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