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mnorman
Feb 10, 2011, 08:49 PM
Lets see, we can watch the worlds 1,2,and 3 play the game or........we can watch Chris Berman try to swing around his belly at Pebble Beach paradise. I think the PGA Tour better start worying :help:. One of the golf mecca's and we have to watch the celebs :mad:. Time to do something different with this tournament. Instead of the celebs- how about the previous years amateur world teams playing with the pro's.

gbrgolf
Feb 10, 2011, 10:19 PM
Lets see, we can watch the worlds 1,2,and 3 play the game or........we can watch Chris Berman try to swing around his belly at Pebble Beach paradise. I think the PGA Tour better start worying :help:. One of the golf mecca's and we have to watch the celebs :mad:. Time to do something different with this tournament. Instead of the celebs- how about the previous years amateur world teams playing with the pro's.

Sorry you feel that way, to me it seems like the same thing 40+ weeks a year, this event is kind of fun! By the time Sunday rolls around, you won't see much of the celebs anyhow! I kind of like at least one week of variety! Used to get ton's on complaints about "the International" too! Yeh, it was never perfect, but at least a change. IMHO

shaker1
Feb 11, 2011, 07:31 AM
Sure the variety is nice and you can never go wrong watching Pebble Beach, one of the most beautiful places on earth. But Berman was embarrasing. Show him a couple of times so we can all laugh and then get on to the real golfers

Bellyhungry
Feb 11, 2011, 07:45 AM
I think the current state of the Pro-Am cheapen the tournament and thus cheapen the prestige of Pebble Beach, especially now that only B-, if not C-listers are the ones showing up.

Kind of like having a Hooters Tour event at Augusta National.

Weirfan
Feb 11, 2011, 08:55 AM
not a fan of the pro-ams either but understand why they do them and agree with GBR that there are really only 2 a season out of so many tournaments so no big deal.

like anything else, you no like , nobody is forcing you to watch.

people do attend to see the celebs in these as much as the golfers and while for tv viewing the true golf fan wants to see the pros playing thursday , friday am shots are at least tolerable.

heck the shot of the day IMO yesterday was by an amateur :eek:

scottypro
Feb 11, 2011, 09:17 AM
Anybody know how much it costs for an amateur to play in this tournament with the pro's? I'm sure we couldn't afford it.

dekker
Feb 11, 2011, 09:29 AM
Sure, some celebs with their dubious caps are a pain in the _ss to watch but the course always makes up for it.
Just scrounging around I learned that Jim Backus of Magoo and Gilligans Island fame actually made the cut in 1964.
Sadly once he landed on the Island he was never seen again.:rofl:

GBR, do you know which of the celebs play up to their cap?

Rusty
Feb 11, 2011, 11:08 AM
I too find the time devoted to the amateur "celebrities", especially the sycophantic interviews with the business types and tournament title sponsors, tedious and annoying. But, I understand the commecial imperatives - they will always have the die hard golfers tuning in because it is Pebble and the Monterray Peninsula. If they can snag a few more viewers because they want to see Bill Murray drag a reluctant spectator through a bunker in a mistaken belief in his comedic instincts, then so be it.

But, definitely the glamour is gone. The days of yore, the Crosby Clambake and its attendant celebrity hijinks, have been replaced by a much more crass and cynical event. I suppose it is the temper of the times, the dropping of the veil that used to keep prying eyes away from the reality of that carefully constructed fiction called Hollywood.

At least OJ and Phil Spector aren't on the tee sheet. But then they wouldn't be able to make their tee times...until they are granted parole.

Rusty

ninja
Feb 11, 2011, 02:39 PM
I rarely watch the Euro tour but this weekend I'm all over it....will tune in Sunday for a Pebble update (if they had Ricky Gervais interviewing the celebs I might be more inclined to watch).

Lefty17
Feb 11, 2011, 03:07 PM
How about what they did in Bahrain two weeks ago..

Normal rounds 1 and 2... make the cut and you get an amateur to play in the group with you for the weekend. :help:

hbassi
Feb 11, 2011, 03:16 PM
agree the novelty wears off very fast on these Pro-Am's.

However not a big fan of the Trump show, but the last two episodes were decent. Glavine v Smoltz - Smoltz is a sratch to plus handicap but Glavine kept making some bombs to stay in the match.

Hull vs JR was good too - I have seen Hull play before and he is a scratch as well, but JR hit some good shots to keep it entertaining.

Bellyhungry
Feb 11, 2011, 06:11 PM
Weirsy, going backward http://www.cre8asiteforums.com/forums/style_emoticons/others/stretcher.gif

gbrgolf
Feb 11, 2011, 06:56 PM
Sure, some celebs with their dubious caps are a pain in the _ss to watch but the course always makes up for it.
Just scrounging around I learned that Jim Backus of Magoo and Gilligans Island fame actually made the cut in 1964.
Sadly once he landed on the Island he was never seen again.:rofl:

GBR, do you know which of the celebs play up to their cap?

Hey Dekker,
Wasn't at the AT&T this year, and honestly, I've never paid much attention to the ams. put any player on a course set up for a Tour event and they'll be hard pressed to play even close to their handicap! Throw in fairways lined with fans and it gets even tougher. The joke of this event is the sandbaggers every year. honestly, I don't pay much attention to the Pro-Am scores.

I think this event is being affected by the times. Back in the day, it was cool to see celebrities in an informal environment and just having fun! Now a days with TMZ and so much more, we know all about celebrities and are no where near as enamored by them! From what I remember, many moons ago, the celebrities were always corny and really not that funny, but it was cool just to see them on a golf course..... Not so much anymore! Too bad, this is a great event, with a storied history..... Sad to see guys trashing it!
gbr

Borbor
Feb 11, 2011, 07:43 PM
Personally, I find it a huge waste of time to telecast a bunch of hacks playing golf. If I wanted to watch that on tv I can clamp a cam to my clicgear and watch my round over and over. What amazes me is how some people will stand in the gallery to watch em. If they won't walk AHEAD of their 8 hcp playing partner, then why the hell would they stand behind the ropes watching tin cup teeing off?

Yah they're actors and athletes, but I'd rather watch them at things they're good at instead of a sport where they suck at. When I watch golf, I want to watch it being played by the pros. Hell, ask Tony Romo if he'd want to watch a football game where John Daly's playing and see what he'd have to say?

gbrgolf
Feb 11, 2011, 09:46 PM
Personally, I find it a huge waste of time to telecast a bunch of hacks playing golf. If I wanted to watch that on tv I can clamp a cam to my clicgear and watch my round over and over. What amazes me is how some people will stand in the gallery to watch em. If they won't walk AHEAD of their 8 hcp playing partner, then why the hell would they stand behind the ropes watching tin cup teeing off?

Yah they're actors and athletes, but I'd rather watch them at things they're good at instead of a sport where they suck at. When I watch golf, I want to watch it being played by the pros. Hell, ask Tony Romo if he'd want to watch a football game where John Daly's playing and see what he'd have to say?

Wow, a little bitter at the AT&T.... my best suggestion is don't watch and enjoy the next 40+ events.

Tanner
Feb 11, 2011, 10:33 PM
Anybody know how much it costs for an amateur to play in this tournament with the pro's? I'm sure we couldn't afford it.

not sure about this event but if i remember correctly the bob hope is like 20k per amateur cause they were talking about how bubba watson paid for his wife to play

scottypro
Feb 12, 2011, 07:14 AM
Wow, a little bitter at the AT&T.... my best suggestion is don't watch and enjoy the next 40+ events.

Better..... record and fast forward .......

gbrgolf
Feb 12, 2011, 08:35 AM
Better..... record and fast forward .......

Good idea!:rofl:

vijay
Feb 12, 2011, 02:29 PM
Lets see, we can watch the worlds 1,2,and 3 play the game or........we can watch Chris Berman try to swing around his belly at Pebble Beach paradise. I think the PGA Tour better start worying :help:. One of the golf mecca's and we have to watch the celebs :mad:. Time to do something different with this tournament. Instead of the celebs- how about the previous years amateur world teams playing with the pro's.

I agree! Pebble beach is must too spectacular a course for the AT&T Pro am circus! The PGA tour should use Pebble beach for a more prestigious tournament - play off event, or another event such as the Players.

Watching the celebrities is fun, but this event should be moved to another course.

gbrgolf
Feb 12, 2011, 02:52 PM
I agree! Pebble beach is must too spectacular a course for the AT&T Pro am circus! The PGA tour should use Pebble beach for a more prestigious tournament - play off event, or another event such as the Players.

Watching the celebrities is fun, but this event should be moved to another course.

It amazes me how little the history of this event is respected! If it wasn't for the celebrities playing now, we wouldn't be reminded of the celebrities of the past. The US open is played there every 10 years, through in some national Ams and you can't get much bigger. The Tour can't just create another Players!
And the playofs are taken by large markets, Carmel doesn't qualify for that!
Sorry, I enjoy the event, and tomorrow, you won't hear much about the celebs, so everyone should be happy.

vijay
Feb 12, 2011, 04:53 PM
It amazes me how little the history of this event is respected! If it wasn't for the celebrities playing now, we wouldn't be reminded of the celebrities of the past. The US open is played there every 10 years, through in some national Ams and you can't get much bigger. The Tour can't just create another Players!
And the playofs are taken by large markets, Carmel doesn't qualify for that!
Sorry, I enjoy the event, and tomorrow, you won't hear much about the celebs, so everyone should be happy.

What historic moment do you remember from the AT&T Pro-ams? All the historic moments at Pebble Beach are from the US Opens.

I'd like to see the best golfers compete at Pebble Beach for 4 days. It is a challenging course with spectacular views. Right now the AT&T doesn't attract many of the stars, and then ones that do play the tournament are spread over 3 golf courses.

Davepm
Feb 12, 2011, 05:18 PM
I think the current state of the Pro-Am cheapen the tournament and thus cheapen the prestige of Pebble Beach, especially now that only B-, if not C-listers are the ones showing up.

Kind of like having a Hooters Tour event at Augusta National.
:clap: I could not agree more. The Dubai event is so much better to watch.

gbrgolf
Feb 12, 2011, 05:44 PM
What historic moment do you remember from the AT&T Pro-ams? All the historic moments at Pebble Beach are from the US Opens.

I'd like to see the best golfers compete at Pebble Beach for 4 days. It is a challenging course with spectacular views. Right now the AT&T doesn't attract many of the stars, and then ones that do play the tournament are spread over 3 golf courses.

Let's see, past 15 years, the winners are Dustin Johnson (2), Phil Mickelson (3), VJ, Davis Love (2), Tiger Woods, Payne Stewart, Mark O'Meara, and Peter Jacobsen..... Not bad! I guess everyone was watching the European Tour that week each year! Yes, this year the Omega has an exciting field with some great stories.... No argument there!

scottypro
Feb 13, 2011, 07:20 AM
Too much air time wasted on interviews with the amateur players.....:thumbs_do

gbrgolf
Feb 13, 2011, 04:42 PM
For an event everyone seems to hate, with just a few holes to go, I'm finding it pretty exciting! To each his own! Next week, another great course..... And no Ams!

Bellyhungry
Feb 13, 2011, 06:27 PM
Looks like 2011 is going to be known as the year of the journey men.

None of the highly touted stars are winning so far.

tomahawktim
Feb 14, 2011, 03:26 AM
What historic moment do you remember from the AT&T Pro-ams? All the historic moments at Pebble Beach are from the US Opens.


Wasn't it 1984 when Hale Irwin bounces his tee shot at #18 off of the ocean and back into play to steal the championship away from Richard Zokol?

An historic moment for long-time followers of the tournament.

Greywolf
Feb 14, 2011, 04:28 AM
Wasn't it 1984 when Hale Irwin bounces his tee shot at #18 off of the ocean and back into play to steal the championship away from Richard Zokol?

An historic moment for long-time followers of the tournament.

I am not sure of the year but it was Jim Nelford not Richard Zokol.

tomahawktim
Feb 14, 2011, 05:03 AM
Thanks, Greywolf.

Memories become strained over the ages.