Sex-changed man in Women's tour??

[jsunsun]

Poll Should sex changed men be allow to play in women's tour?

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[Ego Woods]

Here a story of a man who had a sex change, and playing on the women's tour...

http://sports.sympatico.msn.ca/Home/ContentPosting.aspx?contentid=095e3093c79d49dcb4f6 ff7c048b38c5&show=True&number=6&showbyline=True&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc

I think this is unfair. If you're born a man, you have higher levels of testerone, and thus have an unfair performance advantage over a "real" woman. If this becomes widely accepted, a struggling PGA tour player can have a sex change and become among the top women players. I'm sure the increased earnings would persuade some male golfers to go this route.
hey jsunsun, take a look at the thread we have in this forum:

http://www.torontogolfnuts.com/showthread.php?t=253&highlight=woman

[jsunsun]

oups sorry:hush: . i don't read the 19th hole enough

[jsunsun]

alright, who's the one person who voted yes??? hmm... keeping with theme of repeated tiger wood threads, what if he had a sex change he can participate in both PGA and LPGA and consistently win both?? with some almost guaranteed wins for a few hundreds thousand $ each time would be nice! In such case, he'll have to shave his goatee that egowoods like so much! :D

[Shadow]

alright, who's the one person who voted yes??? hmm... keeping with theme of repeated tiger wood threads, what if he had a sex change he can participate in both PGA and LPGA and consistently win both?? with some almost guaranteed wins for a few hundreds thousand $ each time would be nice! In such case, he'll have to shave his goatee that egowoods like so much! :D Tiger could not play the LPGA Tour because the LPGA has a female at birth clause. The European Ladies Tour does not. The person in question is simply looking for a place to compete while adhering to the existing rules. Perhaps if there was a greater understanding of what the sex change process does to a former male, then one could easily see that there would unlikely be a resulting physical advantage.

BTW: I am the second to vote "Yes'" on this issue, which is hard to believe considering I am a Conservative/conservative voting, almost 60 year old, married, straight male. If you disagree with this then you can blame my parents for teaching me to be open minded, tolerant, fair and reasonable. Shame on them. BTW2: I also believe that gays and lesbians should have the right to get "married," or whatever you want to call it.

[openflows]

I voted Yes. I'm pretty much against all ethnic and gender based discrimination. Further, "sex-changes" are fairly substantial things, and it's wrong to assume that someone is "the same as they always were" once they go through the process, especially given the hormone treatment. The reality is Tiger Woods willl never have a sex-change operation, so it's not really a valid argument. Hopefully in time discrimination against trans-gendered people will disappear, in the same way discrimination against female-gendered people has dramatically been reduced (though not entirely gone). Who cares what gender people chose. It's their life. As for then competing in golf tournaments, I don't see the problem. Golfers like Micelle Wie hit the ball farther than most "men" anyway...

One thing to add, I've always identified with the political notion of the "Red Tory". I.e. fiscally conservative and socially progressive. This is what the Progessive Conservative Party used to be about, before it was taken over by the social conservatives from the Alliance...

[jsunsun]

Well, rule for LPGA is "female at birth", what if a female had a sex change to become a man, and takes testosterone supplements to enhance man features? can she compete in LPGA? i'd say she/he would have an unfair advantage in the LPGA, as testosterone supplements is pretty much steroids.

[Shadow]

Well, rule for LPGA is "female at birth", what if a female had a sex change to become a man, and takes testosterone supplements to enhance man features? can she compete in LPGA? i'd say she/he would have an unfair advantage in the LPGA, as testosterone supplements is pretty much steroids. Yes. (Female at birth rule)

Agreed. This is similar to the East German female swimmers who invaded the 1976 Olympics in Montreal and won "everything." You had to look twice to determine that they were really women because they had the musculature of men.