Welcome!

Welcome to our community forums, full of great people, ideas and excitement. Please register if you would like to take part.

This is extra text with a test link..

Register Now

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Driver Fitting Cost

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Re: Driver Fitting Cost

    Originally posted by bl8d View Post
    be honest with yourself.
    , the gain from a exotic shaft fitting isn't worth 2 bills.
    Also, just because a shaft costs more doesn't necessarily mean its a good or better shaft. There have been some shafts in the past that cost $20 odd dollars to produce tagged with sticker prices 10+ times that.

    several of the best shafts I have ever used never cost more than $50 USD
    "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

    Comment


    • #17
      Re: Driver Fitting Cost

      Originally posted by Weirfan View Post
      Also, just because a shaft costs more doesn't necessarily mean its a good or better shaft. There have been some shafts in the past that cost $20 odd dollars to produce tagged with sticker prices 10+ times that.

      several of the best shafts I have ever used never cost more than $50 USD
      $$$ =/= better shaft for a given person. I am of firm belief that spending more doesn't make you better. Find what is best for yuo and get that, cheap or expensive. That's why I want to do this, i have no idea whats best for me.


      Does the direction the shaft is put in matter? As in is there a front and back? That always worried me when adjusting the loft on my head.
      Callaway Blayne Standbag:
      TaylorMade M1 9.5*
      TaylorMade Burner Superfast 2.0 3w 15*
      TaylorMade R15 5w 19*
      TaylorMade RBZ Stage 1 TP 3 Hybrid
      Taykormade Speesburner 5 Hybrid
      5-AW TaylorMade RocketBladez
      Callaway Mack Daddy 2 - 54* and 58*
      Scott Cameron Newport 2 - Super Stroke 3.0 Slim
      Srixion Z-Star XV

      Comment


      • #18
        Re: Driver Fitting Cost

        Originally posted by Kessly Snipes View Post
        $$$ =/= better shaft for a given person. I am of firm belief that spending more doesn't make you better. Find what is best for yuo and get that, cheap or expensive. That's why I want to do this, i have no idea whats best for me.


        Does the direction the shaft is put in matter? As in is there a front and back? That always worried me when adjusting the loft on my head.
        Part of the PURE process is shaft alignment. If you go get fit by a guy like Ian, you will learn a ton about your equipment. If you're into that, then the $100 is really a drop in the bucket.

        Comment


        • #19
          Re: Driver Fitting Cost

          Originally posted by Kessly Snipes View Post
          I am of firm belief that spending more doesn't make you better. Find what is best for yuo and get that, cheap or expensive.

          Agree, there might be a shaft with a profile that suits you costing $50 versus a similarly specked and profiled shaft costing $250. This is what I was getting at and has been my experience when I did lots of shaft testing in the past

          There used to be a great resource called shaft profiles that one could go to to compare the different shaft zone profiles in different flexes , sadly the fellow that maintained it moved on.

          Does the direction the shaft is put in matter? As in is there a front and back? That always worried me when adjusting the loft on my head.

          this can be debated till the cows come home. My experience ( and that of others I know is that quite often shafts shafts can have a different stiffness profile depending on their orientation. There have been studies on shaft alignment and performance. Some have found that alignment can have an impact.
          my thoughts
          "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

          Comment


          • #20
            Re: Driver Fitting Cost

            Originally posted by Kessly Snipes View Post
            $$$ =/= better shaft for a given person. I am of firm belief that spending more doesn't make you better. Find what is best for yuo and get that, cheap or expensive. That's why I want to do this, i have no idea whats best for me.


            Does the direction the shaft is put in matter? As in is there a front and back? That always worried me when adjusting the loft on my head.
            yes some definite value to be had from an optimum alignment. Though I FLO my graphite shafted woods, I don't bother with the steel shafted clubs.
            Tim Hewitt(My Ostrich) was the gentleman that offered the extensive shaft profiles.

            For your own edification visit Tutlemans site and read up on spine alignment.
            https://www.tutelman.com/golf/shafts...outSpines4.php

            with the adjustable hosels, the shaft's FLO should be set up and coincide with the Neutral setting. That way closing or opening the face via the hosel will minimize the deviation.
            Last edited by bl8d; Jan 10, 2017, 07:40 PM.
            Things change.

            Ping i25, PWR75 s
            Ping i25 3w Tour65 s
            Miz 21Fli-Hi Gblue s
            TA 845s GDs300
            Clev588 53,57
            Cal i-Trax

            Comment


            • #21
              Re: Driver Fitting Cost

              Originally posted by bl8d View Post
              yes some definite value to be had from an optimum alignment. Though I FLO my graphite shafted woods, I don't bother with the steel shafted clubs.
              Tim Hewitt(My Ostrich) was the gentleman that offered the extensive shaft profiles.

              For your own edification visit Tutlemans site and read up on spine alignment.
              https://www.tutelman.com/golf/shafts...outSpines4.php

              with the adjustable hosels, the shaft's FLO should be set up and coincide with the Neutral setting. That way closing or opening the face via the hosel will minimize the deviation.
              I too FlO all graphite shafts.
              I've used a bearing spine finder for over 10 years with steel shafts , aligning NBP to target nd measuring frequency in that orientation .

              Yes Tim was the fellow who maintained shaft profiles.com, with input from other clubbuilders who preformed shaft zone profiling, was a great resource . Tim is also one of the few who did actual double blind testing of dispertion and shaft alignment.
              "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

              Comment


              • #22
                Re: Driver Fitting Cost

                Originally posted by Kessly Snipes View Post
                Does the direction the shaft is put in matter? As in is there a front and back? That always worried me when adjusting the loft on my head.
                If you believe what Titleist states, Pure doesn't improve performance.
                Attached Files
                Last edited by Laicha; Jan 11, 2017, 11:55 AM.

                Comment


                • #23
                  Re: Driver Fitting Cost

                  Originally posted by Laicha View Post
                  If you believe what Titleist states, Pure doesn't improve performance.
                  Oh Boy, this will be interesting...
                  “Golf is a game whose aim is to hit a very small ball into an even smaller hole, with weapons singularly ill-designed for the purpose”
                  Winston S. Churchill

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    Re: Driver Fitting Cost

                    I'm pretty sure there's a few independent research groups that have proven FLO Spine and Pure all do nothing really to effect performance.

                    I know I've read it.

                    I'm still unsure the difference between them all

                    I do know that a lot of Tour players don't even know what it is or use it.

                    Tour vans do not have any of these processes.

                    A coworker of mine personally knowns brooke and brittney Henderson. They don't use FLO pure spine etc. They didn't even know what it was.
                    Last edited by Jasonp; Jan 11, 2017, 12:51 PM.
                    Driver---Cobra King F6+ (9.5) Aldila Tour Blue 75 S 43.75"
                    3W------Cobra King F6 (14.5) Aldila Tour Blue 85 S 42.65"
                    5W------Cobra King F6 Baffler (17.5) Aldila Tour Blue 85 S 41.75"
                    3H-------Cobra King F6 (20.5) Fujikura Motore Speeder 9.8 TS S 39.4"
                    DHY------Adams Super DHY (21) Matrix White Tie S 39.75"
                    Irons------Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW C Taper S
                    Wedges---Cleveland RTX 3 (52/MG 58/LG) C Taper S/KBS 610 Wedge S
                    Putter-----Ping Cadence TR Sheah H w/ Flatso 1.0
                    TLT'D @ Dans Custom Golf

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      Re: Driver Fitting Cost

                      Originally posted by Laicha View Post
                      If you believe what Titleist states, Pure doesn't improve performance.
                      It does if you're dealing with a crappy shaft. If the frequency one way is 250 cpm and 260 the other way for example you are dealing with one full flex difference. And the only way to find out is to have it measured in a frequency meter. A bad shaft will wobble significantly when twanged.
                      Titleist is into golf clubheads not shafts

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        Re: Driver Fitting Cost

                        Originally posted by Jasonp View Post
                        I'm pretty sure there's a few independent research groups that have proven FLO Spine and Pure all do nothing really to effect performance.

                        I know I've read it.

                        I'm still unsure the difference between them all

                        I do know that a lot of Tour players don't even know what it is or use it.

                        Tour vans do not have any of these processes.

                        A coworker of mine personally knowns brooke and brittney Henderson. They don't use FLO pure spine etc. They didn't even know what it was.
                        A couple years ago I caught a conversation on TV with Nick Price and Greg Norman.
                        They both did not know the difference between a .370 and .355 shaft
                        The Hendersons are great players but don't know much about technology

                        SST is on tour
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnkPGluFWg8

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          Re: Driver Fitting Cost

                          Originally posted by Jasonp View Post
                          I'm pretty sure there's a few independent research groups that have proven FLO Spine and Pure all do nothing really to effect performance.

                          I know I've read it.

                          I'm still unsure the difference between them all

                          I do know that a lot of Tour players don't even know what it is or use it.

                          Tour vans do not have any of these processes.

                          A coworker of mine personally knowns brooke and brittney Henderson. They don't use FLO pure spine etc. They didn't even know what it was.
                          Do you honestly believe that Tour players are provided with the same quality shafts that are shipped out to the masses? Or do you think that the manufacturers carefully screen the shafts they give Tour players to test out and play with to ensure they get the best possible performance from them so that their product will be seen on tour?

                          This test, while not 100% scientific, would lean towards it appearing to make some difference:
                          http://pluggedingolf.com/does-purein...ths-unplugged/
                          Last edited by Gridiron; Jan 11, 2017, 01:55 PM.

                          Comment


                          • #28
                            Re: Driver Fitting Cost

                            again I say...tour vans and tour pros do not use this process. They are in the business of winning matches.

                            Again the process and demo is cool...but we are human not machines we do not swing a shaft in perfect plane with the face every single time.
                            Driver---Cobra King F6+ (9.5) Aldila Tour Blue 75 S 43.75"
                            3W------Cobra King F6 (14.5) Aldila Tour Blue 85 S 42.65"
                            5W------Cobra King F6 Baffler (17.5) Aldila Tour Blue 85 S 41.75"
                            3H-------Cobra King F6 (20.5) Fujikura Motore Speeder 9.8 TS S 39.4"
                            DHY------Adams Super DHY (21) Matrix White Tie S 39.75"
                            Irons------Titleist 714 AP2 4-PW C Taper S
                            Wedges---Cleveland RTX 3 (52/MG 58/LG) C Taper S/KBS 610 Wedge S
                            Putter-----Ping Cadence TR Sheah H w/ Flatso 1.0
                            TLT'D @ Dans Custom Golf

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              Re: Driver Fitting Cost

                              Originally posted by Tintin View Post
                              It does if you're dealing with a crappy shaft. If the frequency one way is 250 cpm and 260 the other way for example you are dealing with one full flex difference. And the only way to find out is to have it measured in a frequency meter. A bad shaft will wobble significantly when twanged.
                              Titleist is into golf clubheads not shafts

                              If you've got a shaft that bad, it belongs in the trash not your club. I don't know if I agree on your point with Titleist though.

                              Sure, they're not a shaft maker. But isn't it in their best interests to understand shaft dynamics in the production of golf clubs? They're saying that after investing money into R&D, they haven't been able to find any real performance advantages from shaft alignment. It's an add-on service that would immediately add to profits, they could offer it, but they don't.

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                Re: Driver Fitting Cost

                                Originally posted by Jasonp View Post
                                again I say...tour vans and tour pros do not use this process. They are in the business of winning matches.

                                Again the process and demo is cool...but we are human not machines we do not swing a shaft in perfect plane with the face every single time.
                                I mostly agree, not saying it works or it doesn't. But I have seen customers that have done well with spine-aligned shafts, and some that hated it. Actually hitting the club better before it was done. Even a guy that likes one club that is spined, and hates another one. So bottom line, people aren't robots and there's too many variables in most golfer's games to definitively say that it works or not.

                                If you feel like it really helps and you want to pay for the service, than by all means go for it. I'm sure there are some Tour Pros that play SST Pure'd equipment, but how many of them actually paid for it? I'd guess not that many.
                                FB:mcmahongolf | twitter: @mcmahongolfca | Instagram: mcmahongolf

                                WITB:
                                - Taylormade M1 460 9.5 (Mitsubishi Diamana w60)
                                - Geotech SP 3wood (ACCRA SE80*)
                                - Taylormade Rescue Mid TP 19 degrees
                                - Geotech GPM Tour P.Blade 3-PW (KBS Tour)
                                - Geotech Forged W-213 56 & 60 (Nippon Modus3 Wedge 125)
                                - David Whitlam SPI3 Limited Edition

                                Backups:

                                - PING S59 3-PW
                                - Nike Forged Blades 3-PW
                                - David Whitlam Little Dog 303ss
                                - Scotty Cameron Newport II Pro Platinum
                                - Scotty Cameron Phantom Futura

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X