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    A complete novice with no natural talent for golf decided they would use the 10,000 hours of practice theory to become a pro golfer. 5,000 hours in, he is a 4 handicap. To complete 10,000 hours at 7 hours per day is about four years. Sounds doable!

    A much touted theory suggests that practising any skill for 10,000 hours is sufficient to make you an expert. Is that true?
    Last edited by Hands; Mar 1, 2014, 12:48 PM. Reason: punctuation

  • #2
    Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

    Depends on what he considers a "pro" level. To just get a CPGA card or USGA, he could do now. PGA Tour level, unlikely.

    Dropping the next 8-10 strokes will be far harder than dropping the first 30-40.

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    • #3
      Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

      It all depends on what you start with..what kind of clay..I know guys who
      could have a 100,000 hrs of work & it wouldn't matter

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      • #4
        Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

        I would say getting down to shooting in the mid 70s on the regular takes about 3000 hrs of diligent practice with coaching not including time on course. This would take 3 yrs at 20hrs/ week. I also think if someone has the talent, drive, money. To practice 40hrs/week with coaching they could play on tour in a 5 year time period.. not necessarily the pga but a competitive pro tour.
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        • #5
          Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

          Originally posted by MarioV View Post
          I would say getting down to shooting in the mid 70s on the regular takes about 3000 hrs of diligent practice with coaching not including time on course. This would take 3 yrs at 20hrs/ week. I also think if someone has the talent, drive, money. To practice 40hrs/week with coaching they could play on tour in a 5 year time period.. not necessarily the pga but a competitive pro tour.
          Too many variables. Some 30 year old guy that has never played sports in their life I would say has zero shot. But someone that is very athletic would have a better shot. Putting a time period on it isn't possible.

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          • #6
            Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

            Im just going with myself as an example.. most people think they practice this much but they dont.. 4 days a week at 5 hrs a day is time that most people dont have... I am one of the luckier people that make this time for my game. I played my first round ever during the end of the 2009 season and have never played any competitive sports growning up and would not consider myself fit or athletically gifted but driven. I would say that at this moment in time I have around 2,500 hrs of diligent practice under my belt. I know that I will break 70 this year. Given 7500 more hours of diligent practice- im sure which at this rate would take the better part of 7 years that I could compete on a pro tour. Not saying I would win but compete..
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            • #7
              Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

              Originally posted by MarioV View Post
              Im just going with myself as an example.. most people think they practice this much but they dont.. 4 days a week at 5 hrs a day is time that most people dont have... I am one of the luckier people that make this time for my game. I played my first round ever during the end of the 2009 season and have never played any competitive sports growning up and would not consider myself fit or athletically gifted but driven. I would say that at this moment in time I have around 2,500 hrs of diligent practice under my belt. I know that I will break 70 this year. Given 7500 more hours of diligent practice- im sure which at this rate would take the better part of 7 years that I could compete on a pro tour. Not saying I would win but compete..
              I wish you luck.

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              • #8
                Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

                If you think you can compete against higher level players, starting out you should beat he next best player at your club by 6-8 every time. Then play the best of other clubs around you and do the same.

                Then try and win the Ontario Am or Canadian Am. After that, you might struggle on a mid level mini tour.

                There's a big difference between a career best score and being able to contend. Look at the scores needed just to Monday qualify for a PGA Tour event.

                Wish you luck, but the guys at the top are silly good, far better then we can all even dream about. It takes a lot more than just hours put in and determination.

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                • #9
                  Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

                  Originally posted by MarioV View Post
                  I would say getting down to shooting in the mid 70s on the regular takes about 3000 hrs of diligent practice with coaching not including time on course. This would take 3 yrs at 20hrs/ week. I also think if someone has the talent, drive, money. To practice 40hrs/week with coaching they could play on tour in a 5 year time period.. not necessarily the pga but a competitive pro tour.
                  MarioV I too wish you luck. How much coaching do you think someone needs to get to + handicap?
                  I am of the opinion, the better you get the fewer coaches who can help you and the less coaching you might need.
                  Originally posted by hackpro View Post
                  There's a big difference between a career best score and being able to contend. Look at the scores needed just to Monday qualify for a PGA Tour event.
                  hackpro what scores do you typically need and how many qualify to play the event?
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                    Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

                    The world is filled with great golfers. There is an x factor that no matter how much you practice will never be achieved. Remember that most courses the pros play are set up much tougher than most courses we get to play.

                    Beating 70 is a great goal but the best players in the world are the ones that can go real low.

                    Good luck with your adventure. I am sure it is a dream most of us on this site would love to achieve.
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                    • #11
                      Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

                      Originally posted by soccerguy1961 View Post
                      Remember that most courses the pros play are set up much tougher than most courses we get to play.
                      Tougher set-up but if you find the fairway often then rewarded. Ton of rollout, fairways better than the greens I play,
                      no dead grass or weeds all over the fairways. A great ballstriker can play these tough courses without being intimidated.
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                      • #12
                        Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

                        10k hrs doesn't cover LOFT in the long haul.
                        4cap after 5k is still a long way from the pga

                        Greg Norman played scratch after 18 months.
                        larry Nelson started late but did the same.
                        things change

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                        • #13
                          Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

                          Paper Tiger: An Obsessed Golfer's Quest to Play with the Pros Paperback


                          by Tom Coyne

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                          • #14
                            Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

                            I wasnt saying that im persuing a career to become a pro but was saying that I see that its possible... given that much time and dedication. .. has anyone commented that has 10k plus hours of guided practice? I didnt think so... Because that in itself is a feit.. I have played multiple rounds with winners on the Great Lakes tour and have witnessed the things they do.. imo they are good but not that good.. Most guys that I know hovering around a 4 cap +/- 2. Hit 2 buckets a week, are self taught and play 3 to 4 times a week and have been playing for 15 years and their game just developed to what it is today.

                            I remember thinking breaking 90 was going to be a huge achievement then diligent practice and a positive attitude beat that hurdle. I think these scoring benchmarks are just steps... tour players are human just like me and you.. yeah they might have a genetic advantage.. but thats all it is.. an advantage. It still takes the time and Work.
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                            • #15
                              Re: 10,000 hours to become pro golfer

                              Paper Tiger was a great read.

                              Malcolm Gladwell and the 10K hours was a pop tart summary of work done by researchers like Anders Eriksson. There is a lot more to the 10,000 hours of practice. The practice has to be deliberate meaning it has to be HARD. I'm sure many of you heard the story of Tiger dropping balls in the woods and trying to par out the hole.

                              Another important thing is the earlier in life you finish the 10K the more likely you are to achieve your goal because everything after that is addding to your already accumulated experience. Take a 20 year old that has 10k of deliberate golf practice and his chances of success are WAY higher than someone that started at 20 and played for the next 10 years to complete the 10K.

                              Plus, the earlier you reach a level of excellence, the more opportunities you have to excel. Junior Amateur Championships, NCAA scholarships, and national junior programs.

                              Of course there are exceptions and I would never say that it isn't worth going for it. The lessons and experience you'll learn along the way will be invaluable. Just look at Nick Taylor, a once top ranked amateur in the world or Eugene Wong, a 3 time winner on the Canadian tour. These guys are/were the best Canada has to offer and they haven't made the PGA tour...yet. Unlike a lot of other sports, nobody is going to "see something" in you and take a chance on you. Nobody will see your "raw potential" and think they can turn it into gold. If you don't shoot the scores, you don't get your card.

                              *Talent Is Overrated by Geoff Colvin is a really good look at what makes someone elite. Hard work, circumstance and LUCK play their parts.
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