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    Hi all

    Hate to bug you with this, but was wondering if anyone can comment on the following. This is a question for all, but especially for the fine club builders and sponsors here:
    Would it be possible to custom build a set (6i to LW) of SL irons to these specs:
    1) length of a regular 5i, or maybe 6i
    2) Swing Weight of a regular iron
    3) Lie of a regular PW

    Head design is not that important, ***BUT*** it has to be SL.
    Many thanks and cheers !
    Last edited by veryold1; Apr 17, 2016, 11:35 AM.

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    Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

    The difference in lie angle between a standard pitching wedge and a 6i is only 3 degrees, so the max you have to bend is 3 degrees which is easily doable on any soft stainless or forged clubhead.

    swing weight is a and consequence of the weights of the component parts used. ( and in some shafts the balance point of the shaft can impact swing weight) It is easy to manipulate swing weight in most cases.

    Length, a club can be made any length you want very easily.
    Of course length of a club can impact flex and swingweight but again easy for a club builder to fine tune.

    If you are using single length heads that all weigh the same then this task is very easy to do.

    If you are not wanting to use SL heads then the task becomes next to impossible due to the big difference in head weight between a pw and a 6i.

    There is a 25 plus gram difference in weight between a normal PW and a 6i. If you build all the clubs to standard 6 iron length, the 6 will have a "normal" swing weight but the added 25 gram weight of the PW would make it ~ 12 swing weight points heavier. The 9,8,7 would also be quite a bit heavier in swingweight. You can add weight to the 6 iron head with a hosel weight, say 10 grams and you can remove weight from iron heads to reduce their weight but tough to remove 15 grams to get the PW and 6i the same.
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    • #3
      Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

      Originally posted by Weirfan View Post
      The difference in lie angle between a standard pitching wedge and a 6i is only 3 degrees, ...
      I cannot tell you how much i appreciate and thank you for your generous effort to write such a detailed response to my inquiry
      Yeah, i thought that this was a "mission impossible" attempt, and i can see the guy at Cobra working one full day just to fit a 3i to Bryson's specs, lol.
      Thanks again and cheers !
      Hope the "yard work strain" can be fixed with a couple of Advils !
      Last edited by veryold1; Apr 17, 2016, 02:38 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

        Originally posted by veryold1 View Post
        I cannot tell you how much i appreciate and thank you for your generous effort to write such a detailed response to my inquiry
        Yeah, i thought that this was a "mission impossible" attempt, and i can see the guy at Cobra working one full day just to fit a 3i to Bryson's specs, lol.
        Any how, will keep researching this subject some more.
        Thanks again and cheers !
        Hope the "yard work strain" can be fixed with a couple of Advils !
        just quick question veryold1, what's your favorite iron to hit?

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        • #5
          Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

          Originally posted by nearace View Post
          just quick question veryold1, what's your favorite iron to hit?
          Mostly none of them, lol. OK, seriously now, the main reason for my inquiry was not to improve my ball striking (nothing can help that), but, as i approach my mid seventies, to enable me to have a more upright stance with my irons. This, hopefully may take some stress from my old and frail body. and may give me few more years of golfing, before i kick the bucket for good.
          Thanks and cheers !
          Last edited by veryold1; Apr 17, 2016, 04:49 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

            I suspect if you wait 6 months Cobra may have an offering. Don't expect them to be cheap.

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            • #7
              Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

              There is a good explanation by a local club builder / fitter who wrote about the difficulties of doing what you are requesting to a standard set of clubs on GolfWRX.

              http://www.golfwrx.com/360670/the-fa...-length-irons/

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                Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

                Originally posted by SundayBag View Post
                There is a good explanation by a local club builder / fitter who wrote about the difficulties of doing what you are requesting to a standard set of clubs on GolfWRX.

                http://www.golfwrx.com/360670/the-fa...-length-irons/
                Excellent link. Thanks for posting.

                That article outlines why SL shouldn't be tried by the average golfer and is a potentially very expensive fitting undertaking.


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                  Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

                  Originally posted by veryold1 View Post
                  Mostly none of them, lol. OK, seriously now, the main reason for my inquiry was not to improve my ball striking (nothing can help that), but, as i approach my mid seventies, to enable me to have a more upright stance with my irons. This, hopefully may take some stress from my old and frail body. and may give me few more years of golfing, before i kick the bucket for good.
                  Thanks and cheers !
                  Yukon Fairway Woods may be right for you, 7 wood 9 woods and up

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                  • #10
                    Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

                    Originally posted by veryold1 View Post
                    Hi all

                    Hate to bug you with this, but was wondering if anyone can comment on the following. This is a question for all, but especially for the fine club builders and sponsors here:
                    Would it be possible to custom build a set (6i to LW) of SL irons to these specs:
                    1) length of a regular 5i, or maybe 6i
                    2) Swing Weight of a regular iron
                    3) Lie of a regular PW

                    Head design is not that important, ***BUT*** it has to be SL.
                    Many thanks and cheers !
                    Standard lie of a PW is 64 degrees. So if you get Pinhawks for example you'll have to get them bent 1.5 upright as they come in at 62.5

                    Standard swingweight is D2. So if you get Pinhawks 7 iron length might be better.They come in at 272 grams so if you want to use 6 iron length you might have to use lighter graphite shafts to achieve that swingweight +-

                    Depending on your swing if you have them built at PW lie angles that might not be a proper fit and turn you into a hooking/pulling machine.

                    IMHO agood clubfitter should have on hand demo sets of different lengths,shafts etc..

                    It'd be best for you to get fitted or at least try a set before assuming that 6 iron length and PW lie is right for you.

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                    • #11
                      Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

                      IMHO SL is in its infancy and a lot of folks are going nuts over one golfer achieving success with SL clubs. Yet you have thousands of golfers doing extremely well with a conventional set.

                      Down the road you might find a set of SL with different flexes across the set. For example the long irons might be softer in flex, the mid irons firm and the short irons stiff.

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                      • #12
                        Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

                        Originally posted by nearace View Post
                        Yukon Fairway Woods may be right for you, 7 wood 9 woods and up
                        AAMOF, this is EXACTLY where my idea of extended length/upright lie SL irons came from. To be specific, it's not a Yukon high lofted wood, but i have an old and similar high lofted wood, and i just love it: i can swing it with an upright posture, and it flies so beautifully.
                        Thanks for your comment and cheers !
                        Last edited by veryold1; Apr 17, 2016, 07:55 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

                          Maltby's KE4 set with the weight 2 screws is about the only conventional head that will help you. You can achieve close to a single head weight by having no screw weights in the short iron and heavy screws in the 6 iron.

                          You would have to sit down and do the math or with a scale (I am building a set right now) to get as close as you can with the total weight of the heaviest head (GW). Mine is 282g with no screws, so you need to bring the 6 iron (plus all other heads - but the 6 will be where you have to add the most weight) up to the same weight as your GW (282g). This will determine what swing weight you end up with.

                          Lie adjustment should be attainable - but maybe not to the 64 degree you want. 63 may be a more doable lie.

                          Other factors are involved but just wanted to add my view.
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                          • #14
                            Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

                            Originally posted by danscustomgolfshop View Post
                            Maltby's KE4 set with the weight 2 screws is about the only conventional head that will help you...
                            Hi Dan, thanks so much for your input - much appreciated. So, there is some hope of achieving something, that sort of resembles my idea. I'll have to work much more on narrowing the exact specs i need over the next while, and go from there.
                            Cheers !

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                            • #15
                              Re: SL irons with special specs, possible to build ?

                              Originally posted by veryold1 View Post
                              Hi Dan, thanks so much for your input - much appreciated. So, there is some hope of achieving something, that sort of resembles my idea. I'll have to work much more on narrowing the exact specs i need over the next while, and go from there.
                              Cheers !
                              Will be too heavy for you.Even more so if you approach 6 iron length

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