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    RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

    SHOULD READ The WOMAN that NEVER WAS:
    Quite the LAW CHANGING story for those old enough to remember no doubt mpare and hamilton hacker will:
    Obituary: Norma McCorvey, the “Jane Roe” of Roe v Wade
    http://www.economist.com/news/obituary/21717339-jane-roe-roe-v-wade-was-69-obituary-norma-mccorvey-jane-roe-roe-v-wade?ref=yfp
    The “Jane Roe” of Roe v Wade was 69
    Resolve to be tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant with the weak and wrong, because sometime in your life, you will have been all of these. Dr. Robert H. Goddard




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    Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

    the cruel joke is, her life choices weren't Poster material for the feminists. They also didn't think she weren't intellectual enough to push the fight.
    things change

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    • #3
      Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

      Originally posted by 4underthru9 View Post
      SHOULD READ The WOMAN that NEVER WAS:
      Quite the LAW CHANGING story for those old enough to remember no doubt mpare and hamilton hacker will:
      http://www.economist.com/news/obitua...v-wade?ref=yfp
      Thanks for posting.
      I vaguely remember hearing about the case growing up.
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      • #4
        Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

        good read, thanks
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        • #5
          Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

          Wow.

          Not quite the story I was expecting.

          A troubled pawn in a very big game. What a life....
          "Confusion" will be my epitaph
          ...Iggy

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          • #6
            Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

            Originally posted by bl8d View Post
            the cruel joke is, her life choices weren't Poster material for the feminists. They also didn't think she weren't intellectual enough to push the fight.
            I guess it is an equally cruel joke that the anti-abortion types shunned her as well because she wasn't poster material.

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            • #7
              Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

              Originally posted by Zebb View Post
              I guess it is an equally cruel joke that the anti-abortion types shunned her as well because she wasn't poster material.
              well that came a little later after the Roe vs Wade ruling was passed and gave women the right to a self-determine abortion.
              Her life style was so effed up that neither side wanted her as spokesperson.
              Point is the pro-abortionist got the most out of her, and gave her zip recognition through that time.
              She would have remained as that woman behind the curtain until
              she had a change of heart and crossed over to the other side of the debate.
              It was only then that she became known as the woman behind that famous ruling.
              things change

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              • #8
                Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

                As I read this profile, I felt sorry for Ms. McCorvey. Hers was a very tough life that was not softened by her role, minimal as it was, in Roe v. Wade.
                This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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                • #9
                  Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

                  Originally posted by mpare View Post
                  As I read this profile, I felt sorry for Ms. McCorvey. Hers was a very tough life that was not softened by her role, minimal as it was, in Roe v. Wade.
                  Minimal yes, but without her, surely the lawyers, would have had a lot more work on their hands to have succeeded in getting the law changed.
                  Resolve to be tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant with the weak and wrong, because sometime in your life, you will have been all of these. Dr. Robert H. Goddard




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                  • #10
                    Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

                    You're absolutely right. When I spoke of her involvement as "minimal," I simply meant that she was, unlike most parties to litigation, not particularly active in the litigation. Beyond signing the affidavit, she does not appear to have done anything else.

                    Originally posted by 4underthru9 View Post
                    Minimal yes, but without her, surely the lawyers, would have had a lot more work on their hands to have succeeded in getting the law changed.
                    This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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                    • #11
                      Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

                      what struck me is the peculiar choice for her cover name, "Jane Roe" ergo Plain-Jane Roe.
                      Roe- fish eggs.

                      Caviar- coveted roe.
                      things change

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                      • #12
                        Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

                        This article states that "Doe," "Roe," and "Poe" are placeholder names for individuals wishing to remain anonymous in litigation. Your theory is much more interesting.

                        Why Did Norma McCorvey Go By Jane Roe? The Supreme Court Case Pseudonym Has An Interesting Story
                        https://www.bustle.com/p/why-did-norma-mccorvey-go-by-jane-roe-the-supreme-court-case-pseudonym-has-interesting-story-39104
                        Norma McCorvey, better known as "Jane Roe" from the landmark Supreme Court Case Roe v. Wade, passed away today at age 69. McCorvey was an enigmatic person, to say the least — she went from the plaintiff in the famous court case that established a…


                        Originally posted by bl8d View Post
                        what struck me is the peculiar choice for her cover name, "Jane Roe" ergo Plain-Jane Roe.
                        Roe- fish eggs.

                        Caviar- coveted roe.
                        This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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                        • #13
                          Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

                          Why Are Unidentified People Called John or Jane Doe?
                          http://mentalfloss.com/article/29996/why-are-unidentified-people-called-john-or-jane-doe
                          From the courts to the morgue, if the government doesn't know someone's name or wants to withhold it, they give them one of these as a placeholder. Why?


                          so as Jane Roe she was just a "Tag," never obligated at any time to be a physical presence in court.
                          things change

                          Maga Lies Matter

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                          • #14
                            Re: RIP The WOMEN who NEVER WAS?

                            Originally posted by mpare View Post
                            You're absolutely right. When I spoke of her involvement as "minimal," I simply meant that she was, unlike most parties to litigation, not particularly active in the litigation. Beyond signing the affidavit, she does not appear to have done anything else.
                            In most precedent setting cases that get to the Supreme Court level, the individual litigant can play a nominal role. The looming precedent has broad impact upon many people. So in a case like this one or the one about Miranda rights, it is basically a test case and various intervenors and interest groups are driving the end result. This is especially so in cases that concern the individual against the state

                            After Canada had the Charter introduced there was the "Charter Challenge" system which I believe helped expedite test cases through to the SCC to flesh out the law.

                            Many SCC cases concern a relatively modest set of facts that have huge importance in their application. It is more about the precedent than the participants.

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