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  • JASON DAY'S SLOWING DOWN HIS PLAY COMMENTS

    A lot of buzz last week for obvious reasons...

    Saw his presser, and his comments (close but I'm a paraphrasing):

    'It's the pro game with a lot on the line, not your average joe playing on the weekend, I understand why slow play in the amateur game is a problem, etc.'

    Talk about someone who doesn't get it, 'average joe' sees it that 'because Jason does it, I should do it too', certainly my impression and his fellow pros certainly railed...

    Read the Golf World article linked here:



    Question for you nutters- Does a pro's pace of play impact an amateurs pace of play???

    Thoughts??

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    Re: JASON DAY'S SLOWING DOWN HIS PLAY COMMENTS

    It's not the pro's fault when some wannabe imitates him.
    things change

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    • #3
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      when did JD go Nike?
      Every great idea starts out as a blasphemy

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      • #4
        Re: JASON DAY'S SLOWING DOWN HIS PLAY COMMENTS

        Originally posted by tarrantian View Post
        Question for you nutters- Does a pro's pace of play impact an amateurs pace of play???

        Thoughts??

        - Ian
        IMO, there are two separate yet related issues here; slow play affecting how people enjoy the game at the amateur level, and the 'quality' of the product being delivered on television by the professional tours.

        As I mentioned in another thread, in recent months I have found the televised game to be virtually unwatchable. Perhaps it's just me right now, but I find the broadcasts incredible boring. They focus on such a small group of players (rather than everyone who is playing at the time) which forces them to cover the detailed player/caddy exchanges about elevation, wind, club, trajectory, etc. associated with every shot. Of course the announcers never question why all of the players in a group don't do their respective calculations at the same time (i.e. ready golf versus 'honours' golf) nor how, after such detailed exchanges occur, the player misses his target by twenty yards. Once at the green, we are then shown a pro re-place his ball on the putting surface (after the ball has been thoroughly cleaned), align the marks on the ball to the putting line, stand up and look at the putt from three sides, and then re-align the ball. Gripping stuff. If it's during a playoff for The Masters, fine, but not during the first round of the Sony Open.

        Does all of this happening on TV ultimately translate into slow play at the amateur level? Some, but not all. Honours golf should be observed only in formal competition and completely abandoned in casual play because it serves absolutely no purpose. As for 'detailed calculations', many amateurs today have electronic aids which tell them how far to hit the ball. The problem is that the players rarely know how far they actually hit the ball with each club, and if they did know, may not actually hit it that far and/or in the correct direction. The result is missed fairways and greens, extra shots and extra time.

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        • #5
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          "Question for you nutters- Does a pro's pace of play impact an amateurs pace of play???"

          For me , Absolutely not at all, nor does it with anyone I know.

          While I am sure there are wannabes out there who mimic the pros with their white pants and white belts and routines etc, I don't think it is common, nor contributes to slow play at the recreational level, and all the studies into slow play I read , confirm that. The two main factors being course management and course difficulty.

          I commented the other day in another thread that I felt the huge amounts of money that are on the line are the main contributer to slow play on tour.

          Edit to add: I would like to see individuals penalized/ put on the clock if they are slow, not groups.
          Last edited by Weirfan; Jan 10, 2017, 10:14 AM.
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          • #6
            Re: JASON DAY'S SLOWING DOWN HIS PLAY COMMENTS

            Originally posted by Weirfan View Post
            I commented the other day in another thread that I felt the huge amounts of money that are on the line are the main contributer to slow play on tour.
            You are probably right but I would have said the problem is with the sports psychologists that say "don't hit until you are 100% comfortable". In a funk, they are never comfortable as per Garcia a few years back.

            I followed Woods, McCarron, and Els a few years back at Bay Hill. Els was giving Tiger the glare and McCarron would just walk off to next tee while Tiger was putting. You would think that fellow pros would have a mechanism to do something about the brutally methodical.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by Galted View Post
              You are probably right but I would have said the problem is with the sports psychologists that say "don't hit until you are 100% comfortable". In a funk, they are never comfortable as per Garcia a few years back.

              I followed Woods, McCarron, and Els a few years back at Bay Hill. Els was giving Tiger the glare and McCarron would just walk off to next tee while Tiger was putting. You would think that fellow pros would have a mechanism to do something about the brutally methodical.
              Agree........
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              • #8
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                I think his comments are fine, as with Rory admitting his priority isn't too grow golf. Both are strong competitors focused on winning, just like Jack & Arnie were in their playing days.

                I don't think the pace on tour has a big impact on the course, there are a lot of other issues which are lower hanging fruit to pick up the pace.

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                  Re: JASON DAY'S SLOWING DOWN HIS PLAY COMMENTS

                  presser


                  Originally posted by tarrantian View Post
                  A lot of buzz last week for obvious reasons...

                  Saw his presser, and his comments (close but I'm a paraphrasing):

                  'It's the pro game with a lot on the line, not your average joe playing on the weekend, I understand why slow play in the amateur game is a problem, etc.'

                  Talk about someone who doesn't get it, 'average joe' sees it that 'because Jason does it, I should do it too', certainly my impression and his fellow pros certainly railed...

                  Read the Golf World article linked here:



                  Question for you nutters- Does a pro's pace of play impact an amateurs pace of play???

                  Thoughts??

                  - Ian

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                  • #10
                    Re: JASON DAY'S SLOWING DOWN HIS PLAY COMMENTS

                    If you allow the pro's to play at a ridiculous pace of play the rounds will only get slower. Doesn't that give him an advantage over someone that likes to play faster?? Damn right it does. Personally I can barely stand to watch all of these guys take forever to play a round. Threesomes in 5 1/2 hours is just crazy. If the rounds then stretch out to 6 hours or longer there will be more events with less players, so that's not fair to those that have a lower standing in the priority list. Sure play better and get a better priority but that's not always going to be the case. JD doesn't give a flying "F" how many guys are in the field. They have a players committee and they should start enforcing the rules they have in place now. Maybe if JD was made to play faster he wouldn't be as good.

                    Since he said it I'm posting about him but there are other the need to pick up the pace also.

                    Couple cents worth.

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                    • #11
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                      If you allow the pro's to play at a ridiculous pace of play the rounds will only get slower. Doesn't that give him an advantage over someone that likes to play faster?? Damn right it does. Personally I can barely stand to watch all of these guys take forever to play a round. Threesomes in 5 1/2 hours is just crazy. If the rounds then stretch out to 6 hours or longer there will be more events with less players, so that's not fair to those that have a lower standing in the priority list. Sure play better and get a better priority but that's not always going to be the case. JD doesn't give a flying "F" how many guys are in the field. They have a players committee and they should start enforcing the rules they have in place now. Maybe if JD was made to play faster he wouldn't be as good.

                      Since he said it I'm posting about him but there are others that need to pick up the pace also.

                      Couple cents worth.

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                      • #12
                        Re: JASON DAY'S SLOWING DOWN HIS PLAY COMMENTS

                        Originally posted by Weirfan View Post
                        "Question for you nutters- Does a pro's pace of play impact an amateurs pace of play???"

                        For me , Absolutely not at all, nor does it with anyone I know.

                        While I am sure there are wannabes out there who mimic the pros with their white pants and white belts and routines etc, I don't think it is common, nor contributes to slow play at the recreational level, and all the studies into slow play I
                        I disagree the young guns at my course are watching the ball from every angle, backing off, etc etc etc

                        Even the old timers that play money games if asked to speed up say that it's common place as they see on TV to take your time.
                        I think it trickles down.
                        It's not all to blame but plays a part.
                        I despise slow play the reason I've started to get up earlier on weekends at my course because the early times are guys who want to get er done.
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                        • #13
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                          put em all on a clock and enforce it, just like they enforce all the rules.
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                          • #14
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                            I think its safe to say that what he said will not speed up players. And its probably safe to say that at least one person will figure... if that works for him, it will work for me. I just wish Jason would shut up and do it without announcing it. Most likely people wont even notice.
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                            • #15
                              Re: JASON DAY'S SLOWING DOWN HIS PLAY COMMENTS

                              Originally posted by Jeffc View Post
                              put em all on a clock and enforce it, just like they enforce all the rules.
                              This would be such an easy thing to do and they have established the allowable timelines and conditions, so why not simply do it ?
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