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  • Increasing/decreasing spin rate, short iron ball position?

    I have a pretty loose setup as far as alignment goes- a little open, left foot goes wherever is comfortable for the shot, but when I played a lot, generally played my irons further back in my stance the shorter they are. This was part dogma that says to do this and part no doubt misunderstood/misinformed advice about "compressing the ball" to increase spin.

    In the last few years of relative inactivity, I've been experimenting with playing the ball further forward in my stance and like it better. I hit it a little higher, the big draw is less pronounced but still comes out sometimes, and maybe am spinning it a little more.

    My default shot before was dependably (except when it wasn't) a medium-low 20 yard raking draw. I could rip huge steak sized divots in wet conditions. Now that I'm starting to understand Trackman numbers a little and also have a baseline for how I'm hitting it now, I'm guessing I would have had a lower dynamic loft at impact and steeper angle of attack, but still a lower spin loft than now. This probably worked counter to what I was looking for.

    The ultimate goal then, I guess, was to be able to rip a 9 iron back 20 feet; now I'm thinking a little more practically and want to be able to control whether it hops and stops, runs out a little, or zips back maybe 5-10 feet.

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    Re: Increasing/decreasing spin rate, short iron ball position?

    check out Clay Ballard's vids on youtube. He is a clear and concise communicator. He probably has a vid that will cover what you need.
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      Re: Increasing/decreasing spin rate, short iron ball position?

      You might also like what James Ridyard is doing if you are getting into the numbers of Trackman, etc.

      European and PGA Tour coach specialising in the short game. Goal of the channel is to provide simple ways to improve your scoring game while also answering questions via research. You'll also see the odd tour player pop up attempting one of the variety of practice challenges I use in their training. Let me know what you want to see!

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        Re: Increasing/decreasing spin rate, short iron ball position?

        There was one point were no matter what I did with my short irons, the ball was zipping back. Its not as good as you think or at least in my eyes its not. I'd much prefer like you said, the one bounce stop.
        Driver - Taylormade SIM MAX 9.0 Diamana S
        3W - Taylormade M4
        5 wood - Callaway X Hot
        4 Hybrid - Taylormade R15
        Irons - Taylormade 2017 P790 5-PW
        Wedge - 52 Raw Jaws/56 MD 2 tour grind
        Putter - Scotty Cameron Newport 2

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          Re: Increasing/decreasing spin rate, short iron ball position?

          Not sure what type of golf ball you play but the more expensive golf balls are designed to give you the bite you want on the green. I heard this guy speak at the Toronto Golf Show and he convinced me to buy one his own brand of Snell golf balls. Haven't played them yet but it seems to fit the bill for better pitch/chip shots.

          http://www.golfdigest.com/story/are-...ocial_facebook

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            Re: Increasing/decreasing spin rate, short iron ball position?

            Why rip a 9 iron, when a soft 8 will do the trick.

            This is more skilled in my eyes, than the one that lands in hole high, but ends up with a 20 footer back up to the hole.

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              Re: Increasing/decreasing spin rate, short iron ball position?

              Originally posted by bronc072 View Post
              Not sure what type of golf ball you play but the more expensive golf balls are designed to give you the bite you want on the green. I heard this guy speak at the Toronto Golf Show and he convinced me to buy one his own brand of Snell golf balls. Haven't played them yet but it seems to fit the bill for better pitch/chip shots.

              http://www.golfdigest.com/story/are-...ocial_facebook
              Played in Myrtle with a guy that hits it very low, he played the chrome soft ball and if it wasn't for the massive spin he wouldn't hold a single green. I too think its greatly to do with the ball.. I play an E6 for less spin off the tee I dont know it he could hold the green with an E6 and his flight.
              In the bag:
              -TaylorMade R15 driver/ aldila nv 2kxv 65g x-stiff
              -Cleveland Classic 3 Wood strong 14*
              -TaylorMade Burner 2.0 5-PW irons
              -Nike Vr 58, 54, 52 deg. wedge
              -Custom milled putter from 303SS

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