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  • #31
    Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

    Originally posted by veryold View Post
    I have switched some time ago to:
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    2) Ladies golf balls
    3) "Ladies" tee boxes
    And love the game of golf again.
    Cheers !
    But do you sit or stand to pee? Cheers
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    • #32
      Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

      Originally posted by TourIQ View Post
      But do you sit or stand to pee? Cheers
      love it

      p.s what would we ever do without our beloved TGN forum, lol.
      Last edited by veryold; Mar 26, 2017, 06:48 PM.

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      • #33
        Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

        Originally posted by veryold View Post
        stiffest and lightest shaft your can afford is the ONLY SHAFT FITTING PARAMETER for all golfers. The rest is just "jibber,jabber".
        Sorry, don't agree. If you saw in another thread, I had a customer come to me with his current Epic driver that had a very lightweight stiff shaft. He swung at 92 mph. I put him into a 55 gram regular shaft in another Epic. His swing speed jumped about 3.5-4 mph to 96 and cut his spin rate by about 6-700 RPMs on average. I got him 17 yards more on average, his maximum being 25 more yards than his own driver. He bought the new Epic off of me as well.

        Another example with irons: fit a guy yesterday out of some X-Hots. Stock is an 85 gram steel. He tried XP95 steels and just hit them terribly in a set of XR irons. Then we tried a set of G's and the Srixon Z355 with Nippon 105 and 950, respectively. Immediately his swing speed jumped, his smash factor spiked, and his dispersion closed in and he appeared to be hitting it 80-90% straighter. His shot cloud with XR and his own was about the size of a tennis ball, if you were to hold it up to the screen, with the Nippon shafts, it was the size of a nickel. Why this occurred, I am not sure. They are the same weight with the same bend profiles and trajectory windows, but the Nippons for whatever reason worked best for him. We ended up going Ping G with the Modus 105 double soft-stepped (to get him as close to Regular as possible, since Ping weirdly only carries it in stiff), which I think will spike his swing speed even further. His spin and launch angle was slightly better with the Ping even though they were basically neck and neck. The heavier weight is also going to help him stay with it a bit longer and feel it better throughout his swing.

        In sum, for both woods and irons, you should absolutely not play the stiffest and lightest shaft you can find. You should most certainly play the flex and the weight that works best for you in each head.
        Last edited by Phatchrisrules; Mar 27, 2017, 07:49 AM.

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        • #34
          Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

          I remember playing Shepherds Hollow with my wife and another couple and on that day, it was cart paths only. On a par 5, my tee shot was on the opposite side of the fairway and under a tree, so I thought. I grabbed my 5, 6, 7 irons and walked across to find my ball in the rough and in the clear. My wife's ball was over there too and she had her 16* Callaway Big Bertha 3 Wood with her. After she hit, I borrowed her 3 Wood and put a nice easy swing on it and probably hit my best 3 Wood all day, maybe all weekend.
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          • #35
            Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

            Originally posted by crunch27 View Post
            I borrowed her 3 Wood and put a nice easy swing on it and probably hit my best 3 Wood all day, maybe all weekend.
            be careful here - next you may be asked (like i was) if you sit or stand ... (see post #31, above)
            Last edited by veryold; Mar 27, 2017, 08:56 AM.

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            • #36
              Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

              I think what we're seeing here with these YouTube pros is they have the ability to adapt to different shafts. They do well enough with L flex because they know they have to swing easy to make that shaft work and their timing and coordination is good enough to do it. However in at least one case you can clearly see his tendency to miss left is greater with the more flexible shaft.

              Every golfer has a swing comfort zone and they need a shaft that gets them into that zone with each club in the bag. You don't want to be forced to swing easy or fast relative to your comfort zone to make a club work for you.
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              • #37
                Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

                Originally posted by veryold View Post
                be careful here - next you may be asked (like i was) if you sit or stand ... (see post #31, above)
                See post number 9

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                • #38
                  Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

                  Originally posted by Tintin View Post
                  It' been a long Winter, and the Cabin Fever is at it's peek as we speak, lol. Hope we can all hit the links soon and do it in the bushes any way it works
                  cheers !

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                  • #39
                    Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

                    Originally posted by veryold View Post
                    stiffest and lightest shaft your can afford is the ONLY SHAFT FITTING PARAMETER for all golfers. The rest is just "jibber,jabber".
                    So by your logic which shaft is better? a 55 gram Reg or a 65 gram Stiff or a 75 gram X stiff?
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                    • #40
                      Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

                      Originally posted by yertu View Post
                      So by your logic which shaft is better? a 55 gram Reg or a 65 gram Stiff or a 75 gram X stiff?
                      none of those, but something like this or similar:
                      MIYAZAKI C.KUA SPECIAL EDITION DRIVER SHAFT 39 GRAM STIFF .350 TIP
                      Last edited by veryold; Mar 27, 2017, 03:32 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

                        Originally posted by veryold View Post
                        none of those, but something like this or similar:
                        MIYAZAKI C.KUA SPECIAL EDITION DRIVER SHAFT 39 GRAM STIFF .350 TIP
                        Not in your price range

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                        • #42
                          Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

                          Originally posted by veryold View Post
                          none of those, but something like this or similar:
                          MIYAZAKI C.KUA SPECIAL EDITION DRIVER SHAFT 39 GRAM STIFF .350 TIP
                          So it seems like youre actually saying shafts do matter and that ine shaft cannin fact be better than others
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                          • #43
                            Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

                            Originally posted by yertu View Post
                            So it seems like youre actually saying shafts do matter and that ine shaft cannin fact be better than others
                            The title was not in my words but Nick Taylor's.
                            I think that shaft weight is important, not the flex, but if i had to choose and had moneys around to spend on golf, the lightest shaft would be my choice.
                            My reference to S flex was to minimize the torque/twisting aspect of the shaft.

                            But, i am starting to see more and more ACTUAL TESTS coming out re. shafts and they seem to point to the validity of the title by Nick Taylor.

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                            • #44
                              Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

                              Originally posted by veryold View Post
                              The title was not in my words but Nick Taylor's.
                              I think that shaft weight is important, not the flex, but if i had to choose and had moneys around to spend on golf, the lightest shaft would be my choice.
                              My reference to S flex was to minimize the torque/twisting aspect of the shaft.

                              But, i am starting to see more and more ACTUAL TESTS coming out re. shafts and they seem to point to the validity of the title by Nick Taylor.
                              Torque has no influence on the direction a shaft has, only feel. You could have a 10* torque shaft hit it just as straight or crooked as a 1* torque shaft.

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                              • #45
                                Re: "Shafts Don't Matter - Strike Does"

                                Originally posted by Phatchrisrules View Post
                                Torque has no influence on the direction a shaft has, only feel. You could have a 10* torque shaft hit it just as straight or crooked as a 1* torque shaft.
                                Wow that's very interesting.
                                Really?As a layman I always assumed it was a big factor in direction. If I swung a low boardy torque feeling shaft I thought it flew straighter.
                                Interesting
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