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The club face: Open versus Closed

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  • #16
    Re: The club face: Open versus Closed

    man, I just try to get the club on the ball and hope it goes straight!
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    • #17
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      Originally posted by Jeffc View Post
      man, I just try to get the club on the ball and hope it goes straight!
      love it. cheers.

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      • #18
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        so what if I told you that almost everything about Open and Closed as you know it was misleading, or wrong, and that just by knowing something that you would hit the ball better tomorrow?


        We act based on what we know. Most know a way that requires some serious unnecessary back tracking

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by NickStarchuk View Post
          so what if I told you that almost everything about Open and Closed as you know it was misleading, or wrong, and that just by knowing something that you would hit the ball better tomorrow?


          We act based on what we know. Most know a way that requires some serious unnecessary back tracking
          Listening.

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          • #20
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            • #21
              Re: The club face: Open versus Closed

              Is it noticeable now?

              Originally posted by NickStarchuk View Post

              Where is the face relative to the shaft....

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              • #22
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                Fellini?

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                • #23
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                  This isn't anything special. You do it just fine.

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                  • #24
                    Re: The club face: Open versus Closed

                    are you saying that the clubface is always open unless the shaft is rotated towards the target?
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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Albatross View Post
                      are you saying that the clubface is always open unless the shaft is rotated towards the target?
                      Yes I am.


                      Are you saying that at impact that THE FACE IS "CLOSED" TO THE SHAFT ?

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                      • #26
                        Re: The club face: Open versus Closed

                        hmmmmm, I guess before it is rotated the head looks open to the target line but square to the shaft, and after rotated it looks square to the target line but closed to the shaft
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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by Albatross View Post
                          hmmmmm, I guess before it is rotated the head looks open to the target line but square to the shaft, and after rotated it looks square to the target line but closed to the shaft

                          Right. So if we want to make the golf swing as simple as possible, and we know that the face strikes the ball CLOSED or Twisted counter clock wise in relation to the shaft for a RH golfer, then why are we told to....



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                          • #28
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                            For more on how to play a draw or a fade on the golf course come to our premium website at http://www.wisdomingolfpremium.com Shawn Clement, #1 MOST POPULAR ...


                            3:28- I think this explains it a bit more Shawn calls it an "Arc Line" to the face.

                            Club moves along the arc vs straight back and straight through?

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by NickStarchuk View Post
                              This is the part of the swing I find amateurs have the toughest time with but it comes down to understand what is meant by Open versus Closed.

                              If we start simple - I think we can all agree that those 2 terms are relative terms and can relate to either the target line or club path but a Square face is one that is Perpendicular to the target line or path.

                              I also think that we can agree that the club must lean forward at impact to not only find the sweet spot but for maximum impact.

                              Take your impact position, with a forward leaning shaft and then re-orient your eyes to look straight down the shaft.

                              Where is the face relative to the shaft....
                              Nick, that sounds familiar.
                              BTW. I must say the golf school I took from you a couple of weeks ago was terrific. It was the most productive day I spent on golf.

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                              • #30
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                                Thanks!


                                Derek, the arc lies on the plane and at certain times they can be seen as the same.

                                Old school ideas revolved around this opening-to-closing idea as a power source yet the torque the best strikers put-on the shaft is not in this direction.

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