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    Hey guys, i've got a question for anyone knowledgable on the subject. I feel as though my current 3 wood has too uptight a lie for me. What would be some of the flatter fairway wood heads on the market ?

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    Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

    Can't you adjust it?
    Titleist 910F fairway woods, released in 2011, features a pear shaped head design with a deep CG for easier launch off the turf and straighter more consistent ball flight.



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      Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

      ^^^ i would second the question, as well. For the life of me, i do not understand why are the drivers, fairway woods, and hybrids made so upright (and on top of that, their ever increasing shaft length makes it even worse, no ?), as compared to irons.
      cheers !

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        Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

        Originally posted by veryold View Post
        ^^^ i would second the question, as well. For the life of me, i do not understand why are the drivers, fairway woods, and hybrids made so upright (and on top of that, their ever increasing shaft length makes it even worse, no ?), as compared to irons.
        cheers !
        If the OP still games the Titleist 910 as in his WITB the lie angle is set at 57* which to me is not very upright at all

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          Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

          Originally posted by veryold View Post
          ^^^ i would second the question, as well. For the life of me, i do not understand why are the drivers, fairway woods, and hybrids made so upright (and on top of that, their ever increasing shaft length makes it even worse, no ?), as compared to irons.
          cheers !
          As I understand it, they're made that way because the club head is shafted at the heel and as the clubhead moves through impact, the clubhead flattens out. The shaft "droops" (flexes) as the toe weight of the of the clubhead pulls away due to centrifugal force.

          All your full swing clubs will be a little toe up at address, progressively more for the longer clubs.

          If you're worried, draw a vertical line on your ball with a dry erase marker or even a sharpie. After you hit the ball, if the mark isn't vertical or nearly vertical on the clubface, post a photo or go see a professional.

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          • #6
            Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

            The Ping G lays flat and seems to have a flatter lie angle.
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              Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

              New M2 tour is 56degrees

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              • #8
                Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

                Not sure if you were looking for something newer, but Callaway XR Pro (2015) fairway woods were a little bit flatter (14 at 55 degrees, 16 at 55.5 degrees). For comparison the non-pro XR 3 wood from that year had a 57 degree lie angle. Based on that I did get an XR Pro 4 wood.

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                  Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

                  Originally posted by tdeveyra View Post
                  Not sure if you were looking for something newer, but Callaway XR Pro (2015) fairway woods were a little bit flatter (14 at 55 degrees, 16 at 55.5 degrees). For comparison the non-pro XR 3 wood from that year had a 57 degree lie angle. Based on that I did get an XR Pro 4 wood.
                  If you can't tell from my signature I'm a big fan of older clubs. LOL. I'll look into those. I have heard the x2 hot pro are quite flat as well.
                  Titleist 913D2 10.5*
                  Callaway X2 Hot Pro 15*
                  Titliest 913h 19*
                  Cleveland 588 CB forged 4-pw
                  Cleveland 588 rtx 52, 56, 60
                  Scotty Studio Select
                  Ball: whatever's on sale

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                    Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

                    Originally posted by veryold View Post
                    ^^^ i would second the question, as well. For the life of me, i do not understand why are the drivers, fairway woods, and hybrids made so upright (and on top of that, their ever increasing shaft length makes it even worse, no ?), as compared to irons.
                    cheers !
                    yes the toe up( upright )lie angle would exacerbate contacting the sweet-spot, and a miss would be towards the toe, or the heel.
                    Ideally, the lie of any club should be configured, accounting for shaft flex toe droop,so that the grooves are parallel to the ground at impact.

                    The combination of an upright and a longer shaft would in a best case scenario in a misshit predispose a toe impact. That, combined with the gear effect, would create a mini-draw ball flight.

                    This is were Dan's corrective True Length approach would be a problem solver for some.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Fairway wood with flat lie angle

                      Originally posted by bl8d View Post
                      yes the toe up( upright )lie angle would exacerbate contacting the sweet-spot, and a miss would be towards the toe, or the heel.
                      Ideally, the lie of any club should be configured, accounting for shaft flex toe droop,so that the grooves are parallel to the ground at impact.

                      The combination of an upright and a longer shaft would in a best case scenario in a misshit predispose a toe impact. That, combined with the gear effect, would create a mini-draw ball flight.

                      This is were Dan's corrective True Length approach would be a problem solver for some.
                      As not all lie angles can be adjusted, and with that, you are correct - that a TLT retrofit is often the next correct solution. By reverse engineering relative to the actual lie, my charts will specify a corrected length - rather than lie. This will bring the toe down by shortening. Today's fairway woods are getting longer and seems more upright. Must be their attempt at fixing everyone's slice again??

                      This is sometimes the only route to go. A little added head weight may be required to keep the swing weight feel that the player desires.
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                      Dan

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