so what's the difference between the two courses in the GTA: St. Andrew's Valley and St. Andrew's East? which is better? Anyone got a website for the East one?
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Re: St. Andrew's - what's the diff?
Mok,
St. Andrews East is a private club so I've never played there. I've played St. Andrews Valley quite a few times though. Great course. From the back tees, it might be one of the toughest courses in all of Ontario. Also, listed in the Top 50 public/semi private.Last edited by Special_K; Mar 6, 2005, 01:42 AM.WITB:
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Re: St. Andrew's - what's the diff?
St. Andrews East is private, I have not played it but have heard goods things from a couple of members I have met.
As for St. Andrews Valley, it is very challenging, certainly in my top 5 (public) for difficult courses in the GTA. It has several really good holes that make you think off the tee. Seems to be a creek in play close to your landing area on many holes. A few holes I can't say I cared for, number 9 is contrived, the routing around the creek and through the trees is not great, confusing is one of the more charitable descriptions I have heard.
They have a pretty good membership or package deal as well. If you play alot of rounds the costs come down significantly. It is also a pretty healthy walk, lots of ups and downs.
The after 2:00 pm deals are pretty reasonable.I would probably play it more but the other members of my foursome do not like it as much as I do.
Cheers.
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thanks guys...i wanted to know because i only recently discovered there are two st. andrew's in the GTA.
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Melissa,
$55000 is perhaps the initiation fee, but not the annual dues. That would make St Andrew's East one of the most expensive golf clubs in the world. I have met a couple of members and I know a couple of things. One, the guys I know don't pay $55K per year for golf and secondly St Andrew's Valley is not worth that much.
The National, widely considered one of Canada's greatest clubs is only $68-75K to join with annuals under $10K.
Melissa, are sure you did not mean $5000.00 annually?
As for the number of members, most private courses in this area try to keep primary membership under 500. Any more than that and it becomes difficult to get tee-times. Scarborough, Cedarbrae, Weston, Islington, National are all below that number.
Pud.
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Like everyone else, I've never played the East cause its private but St. Andrew's Valley is a great course!! Definate must play. Very busy but friendly helpful staff. The back 9 is much more difficult than the front and in better condition too. Grab the 2 for 1 coupon in the Golf Access book and its an even better deal."Bessie Braddock: Sir, you are drunk.
Churchill: And you, madam, are ugly. But in the morning, I shall be sober."
Winston Churchill
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Re: St. Andrew's - what's the diff?
Originally posted by pudubnyMelissa,
$55000 is perhaps the initiation fee, but not the annual dues. That would make St Andrew's East one of the most expensive golf clubs in the world. I have met a couple of members and I know a couple of things.
The National, widely considered one of Canada's greatest clubs is only $68-75K to join with annuals under $10K.
Melissa, are sure you did not mean $5000.00 annually?
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I played St. Andrew's Valley today and it was great. The course was in decent condition given the time of year, and the layout was quite appealing, with a number of wicked old trees lording over the course. The 9th and 10th holes were a bit quirky, if not outright nasty, but otherwise I was quite impressed. A long walk though. Quite a bit of distance between greens and the next tee. I'll definitely play there again...
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