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Old Dec 24, 2009, 02:55 PM   #1
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Can someone tell me why this guy quit golf? I was reading an article written by Miller and he gives excellent golf tips. Apparently, this guy was a superior iron player.

His stats from Golf Digest show (in his prime):

9 iron-125 yards
6 iron-160 yards

Not really that far.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 03:12 PM   #2
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Can someone tell me why this guy quit golf? I was reading an article written by Miller and he gives excellent golf tips. Apparently, this guy was a superior iron player.

His stats from Golf Digest show (in his prime):

9 iron-125 yards
6 iron-160 yards

Not really that far.

Anybody who watched him knows he was one of the greatest players to ever play.

I am pretty sure that he had a huge confidence problem with the putter that ended his carreer.

as for his distances........just remember that the balatta ball that he used was shorter and less accurate than todays balls

and the lofts on irons back then were weaker by a fair bit so his 9 iron would be the equivalent to a wedge today and the six iron to a probably the loft of btn a 8 and 7 iron.

Golf companies have made the lofts of their clubs progressively stronger to fool you into thinking that todays clubs hit the ball further.......but all they have done is change the number on the club from a 6 to a 7 iron.....you hit it the same distance
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 03:47 PM   #3
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He got the Yips big time and just could'nt overcome it.
When he won the ATT Peeble Beach,his last tour win,he only looked at the hole for 4 rounds.He also tried the Senior tour but his putter would'nt let him,it was full blown yips.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 03:53 PM   #4
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..probably one of the best iron players of all time..his final round 62 at
Oakmont(US Open)was maybe the best round of all time..god he hit it
close to the pin!!

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Old Dec 24, 2009, 04:24 PM   #5
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Can someone tell me why this guy quit golf? I was reading an article written by Miller and he gives excellent golf tips. Apparently, this guy was a superior iron player.

His stats from Golf Digest show (in his prime):

9 iron-125 yards
6 iron-160 yards

Not really that far.
JM got the yips and he claims he got them because of the heavy manual work he did when building his ranch.Supposedly he messed up his muscles and never recovered.I am a bit sceptical about this reason and think that his nerves just went on him for some reason.If you ever see JM interviewed he can get quite emotional.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 05:02 PM   #6
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Miller actually said on air that he used to get Andy Martinez (his caddy) to pace the course off in half yards cause he could control his distance that accurately.

I call BS but that's what the man said.
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Old Dec 24, 2009, 05:25 PM   #7
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Found This Part of an Article.

Miller's 63 remains one of the most impressive rounds in the game's history. Although the course had been softened by rain, it's not as if the entire field was having it easy. There were just 24 scores in the 60s during the tournament. Only three broke 70 on the final day.
Miller hit all 18 greens in regulation. His only bogey, at the eighth hole, came when he 3-putted, missing a 3-footer for par that still rankles him to this day. He missed just a single fairway.
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 01:08 AM   #8
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He quit because his putting went south. The yips killed his scoring ability. As others have already said, he was one of the best ball strikers in the game. In his final victory on tour in 1994, he overcame (just barely) his putting woes at Pebble Beach. He was 46 years old.
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Can someone tell me why this guy quit golf? I was reading an article written by Miller and he gives excellent golf tips. Apparently, this guy was a superior iron player.

His stats from Golf Digest show (in his prime):

9 iron-125 yards
6 iron-160 yards

Not really that far.
The MacGregor Tommy Armour 915 irons he used to win that week were extremely weak, with the PW set at 52*. He is acknowledged by most of his peers as the best ever mid-iron player.
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 03:58 AM   #10
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Miller actually said on air that he used to get Andy Martinez (his caddy) to pace the course off in half yards cause he could control his distance that accurately.

I call BS but that's what the man said.
When he was on his distance control was great so it makes sense that he would want to know yardages down to that level of accuracy. It would add to his confidence. If you tell yuorself that you can hit the shot then you stand a better chance of hitting it well.
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 04:40 AM   #11
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The man couldn't putt to save his life. He did an exhibition in Boise on the NWT a few year back and I wouldn't have put myself through that if I couldn't putt. He was using a belly putter and taking the stroke back then pushing through releasing(taking his hand off the putter) his hand well before impact.
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 04:50 AM   #12
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I wish JM was still playing though. He was definately one of the greats with tons of personality. Having said that, he's awesome in the booth. Brain to mouth filter? Meh, he's way better without one.
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 05:17 AM   #13
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His 63 at Oakmont in the final round of the 73 US Open is still the best ball striking round by anyone ever. On a super tough course he hit every green in regulation. He had 9 birdies - the longest birdie putt he made was like 8 feet. If he could putt like Tiger he would have shot 55. He hit like 5 approach shots inside 3 feet. And he did it with balls that were essentially crap.

At his best he was better than anybody ever. Unfortunately (for him) my wife is a better putter.

Those that saw that round will never forget it.
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 05:17 AM   #14
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Will could kick his azz anyday with his Nike blades back in the bag...
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 06:11 AM   #15
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It is amazing how some of the best ball strikers ever, putting games never were or went south.

Hogan, Norman, Knudson, Miller...
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Hogan, Norman, Knudson, Miller...
Snead, Watson ...
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Old Dec 25, 2009, 06:25 AM   #17
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I know some one who spent a lot of time playing with George Knudson during his formative years and said that if it wasn't for his lack of confidence on his putting he should have won at least 3-4 majors. George knew this himself and couldn't seek the advice that today's touring pros can with swing coaches, sports psychologists, etc.

He was and continues to be one of the best ball strikers in history. There is a video that he produced that i recommend everyone look at and learn from.

His irons had shafts that were stiffness 8.0 frequency matched.
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When he was on his distance control was great so it makes sense that he would want to know yardages down to that level of accuracy. It would add to his confidence. If you tell yuorself that you can hit the shot then you stand a better chance of hitting it well.
You're right about that. It's mainly a confidence thing. If you KNOW in your heart that you can be that accurate with distance control, it makes a ton of difference to your mental approach. I believe Norman wanted the same level of information from his caddies as well.
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Palmer ...

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Ya but as Nicklaus proved you must be able to putt well to win consistently.

I barely remember Miller as I was pretty young at that time. I do remember anyone who was a 'threat" to Nicklaus I didn't like, being that Jack held god like status with me when I started playing golf.
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It is amazing how some of the best ball strikers ever, putting games never were or went south.

Hogan, Norman, Knudson, Miller...
I just got Pelz's 'Putting Bible' for Christmas, and on page 1 he quotes from Hogan: "Putting is a different game."

Pelz goes on to state that 'Ben thought putting is so different that it shouldn't count in one's score.'





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I just got Pelz's 'Putting Bible' for Christmas, and on page 1 he quotes from Hogan: "Putting is a different game."

Pelz goes on to state that 'Ben thought putting is so different that it shouldn't count in one's score.'





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Ya.....Hogan didn't like putting. It didn't interest him. According to rumour and interviews from players in his era Hogan didn't have to be a great putter because it was normal for all of his approach shots to be within 10 feet.

I also hear a rumour that in 1948 (his best year according to Hogan) that he actually had to start aiming slightly away from the pins as he would hit the pins if he didn't and the ball would ricochet off the green!
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I just got Pelz's 'Putting Bible' for Christmas, and on page 1 he quotes from Hogan: "Putting is a different game."

Pelz goes on to state that 'Ben thought putting is so different that it shouldn't count in one's score.'





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I liked JM as a player, he was one hec of a player in his day.

It'a amazing how much of golf is mental. For the most part it is finding a way of getting your brain out of the shots and just let things happen naturally.

Putting mentally for me is very easy, I visualize a line and then let my brain take my hands down the line, but tempo is another thing for me. Somedays it is there and other days it is not. It is just a case of not rushing and let the brain go in slow motion, but somedays I just can't do that.

With Tiger gone for a while the game needs another JM. So many players have let Tiger define them, that most seem second rate. JM was so confident he wouldn't let that happen.
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I think a few of Millers wives were giving him a hard time about not being home enough with his kids..
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