Can't chip worth a crap?- Concealed weapon

[Tintin]

Pretty clever- Your buddies won't know

[nomullies]

Very interesting. I've tried various chippers but none worked. Currently doing ok with traditional clubs and methods. Gotta love his tools and equipment. So the Maltby has an upright lie to begin with?

[Tintin]

Very interesting. I've tried various chippers but none worked. Currently doing ok with traditional clubs and methods. Gotta love his tools and equipment. So the Maltby has an upright lie to begin with?

No he bent it 2 degrees upright. 35 inches long. He used that head so he could make the head heavier and using a tip weight without having to use lead tape. But by gripping down you can compensate to emulate a putting stroke.

[nomullies]

No he bent it 2 degrees upright. 35 inches long. He used that head so he could make the head heavier and using a tip weight without having to use lead tape. But by gripping down you can compensate to emulate a putting stroke.

Ah I missed the bend. Watching it on a cell phone. 2 degrees doesn't seem like much. I have 1.5 upright pings but they don't look like his club. I do chip around the green by manually going upright. It works.

[Tintin]

Ah I missed the bend. Watching it on a cell phone. 2 degrees doesn't seem like much. I have 1.5 upright pings but they don't look like his club. I do chip around the green by manually going upright. It works.

Depends. He is trying to duplicate the lie and weight of most standard putters( 70+lie and 380+- gram head weight) but since he is dealing with a cast head he can't go too aggressively on the lie without risking breaking the head. However if you grip down you'll easily have the club more upright at address.FWIW a lot of so called experts advocate chipping with the heel of the club off the ground at address. This club will work well for that.

[Jeffc]

Depends. He is trying to duplicate the lie and weight of most standard putters( 70+lie and 380+- gram head weight) but since he is dealing with a cast head he can't go too aggressively on the lie without risking breaking the head. However if you grip down you'll easily have the club more upright at address.FWIW a lot of so called experts advocate chipping with the heel of the club off the ground at address. This club will work well for that.

That's what I do as well as grip down to the shaft. Shortening the backswing helps me as well. And I would never chip around the greens like he is doing for the most part that with a SW either - too much spin and I want to get the ball rolling sooner than later.

[rgk5]

The average 8-iron is similar in loft and works as well as any "chipper". If you don't practise this shot, do not expect good results no matter what device is used.

[ping1-a]

Rocco technique is the best. Grip down, heel off the ground, ball off back big toe. I use a 54 or 56* wedge because the spin makes it easier to control the rollout. Any good players will use a wedge over 50* because spin control is crucial to consistency, especially on fast greens. Remember, the heel digs, the toe doesn't.

[Pingeye2_fan]

I use the Dave Pelz method,super easy and virtually impossible to chunk.

Ball off back ankle, flare feet towards target, more weight on front foot, lean the shaft forward.

Simplest most consistent method I have found.

I typically hit most chips this way with my 54* and just adjust swing length for distance.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dav+...ptQP26-I-AY_30

[Weirfan]

Depends. He is trying to duplicate the lie and weight of most standard putters( 70+lie and 380+- gram head weight) but since he is dealing with a cast head he can't go too aggressively on the lie without risking breaking the head. However if you grip down you'll easily have the club more upright at address.FWIW a lot of so called experts advocate chipping with the heel of the club off the ground at address. This club will work well for that.

I have found that This method is basically fool proof for chipping. Shaft more vertical, grip down, heel up ......treat the club almost like a pendulum and MAKE SURE to use the bounce on the club.

best to have ball middle, to very slightly back of middle , but can move it forward to elevate

You can use a 56* very effectively for this technique or a lower lofted head, my go to is a 50/52*.

two very important parts:
1. make sure that your lead shoulder is not higher than the back, keep shoulders level
2. make sure the butt end/handle of the club stays in line with your sternum.
Where many ams go wrong is they press the hands forward , IMO this is The last thing you want ( forward shaft lean) when chipping which is why so many ams dig the leading edge into the turf behind the ball or blade the ball over the green.

[Pingeye2_fan]

I have found that This method is basically fool proof for chipping. Shaft more vertical, grip down, heel up ......treat the club almost like a pendulum and MAKE SURE to use the bounce on the club.

best to have ball middle, to very slightly back of middle , but can move it forward to elevate

You can use a 56* very effectively for this technique or a lower lofted head, my go to is a 50/52*.

two very important parts:
1. make sure that your lead shoulder is not higher than the back, keep shoulders level
2. make sure the butt end/handle of the club stays in line with your sternum.
Where many ams go wrong is they press the hands forward , IMO this is The last thing you want ( forward shaft lean) when chipping which is why so many ams dig the leading edge into the turf behind the ball or blade the ball over the green.

For me, I have to disagree with point #2, using the Pelz method I linked, I have never bladed or chunked a chip. Always catch ball first then turf.

[Weirfan]

For me, I have to disagree with point #2, using the Pelz method I linked, I have never bladed or chunked a chip. Always catch ball first then turf.

A small amount of shaft lean is fine, < 5degrees. The hands lead, You don't want the hands to be behind the ball and the left wrist cupped.....neutral to bowed wrist through impact works for me.

Too many ams press their hands way more than 5* and as such the butt end of the club is pointing way too much towards the target and this creates all sorts of issues as this quote states.

"A lot of forward shaft lean means your angle of attack will become very steep. This will leave you wanting to jerk through impact in an effort to shallow the clubs path. Somewhere between 2? and 5? is perfect."

I believe that it is critical to use the club's bounce with these shots....that's why wedges are designed the way they are....the bounce allows the club to get under the ball. I see the shot as nipping the ground and allowing the club to slide under. The more the leading edge points down the more difficult it is for unskilled players to make a proper strike.

in any event, I am not an instructor, just an average amateur ( 7h/c) so still struggle with the game.....people should do what provides them with the most comfort and consistency. Dozens and dozens of tips and techniques out there.

Danny Maude, is one of them and has some very simple and easy chipping techniques that follow this. Principle ....for me simple is better as I can overthink on the course , especially in competitions

Pitching , well that is a totally different animal and much harder IMO

[Pingeye2_fan]

A small amount of shaft lean is fine, < 5degrees. The hands lead, You don't want the hands to be behind the ball and the left wrist cupped.....neutral to bowed wrist through impact works for me.

Too many ams press their hands way more than 5* and as such the butt end of the club is pointing way too much towards the target and this creates all sorts of issues as this quote states.

"A lot of forward shaft lean means your angle of attack will become very steep. This will leave you wanting to jerk through impact in an effort to shallow the clubs path. Somewhere between 2? and 5? is perfect."

I believe that it is critical to use the club's bounce with these shots....that's why wedges are designed the way they are....the bounce allows the club to get under the ball. I see the shot as nipping the ground and allowing the club to slide under. The more the leading edge points down the more difficult it is for unskilled players to make a proper strike.

in any event, I am just an average amateur ( 7h/c) so still struggle with the game.....people should do what provides them with the most comfort and consistency. Dozens and dozens of tips and techniques out there.

Danny Maude, is one of them and has some very simple and easy chipping techniques that follow this. Principle ....for me simple is better as I can overthink on the course , especially in competitions

Pitching , well that is a totally different animal and much harder IMO

Each their own I guess, I think about sliding the club under the ball when hitting a pitch shot.

For me it’s ball opposite back ankle (looks a lot further back because you flare your feet towards the target), narrow stance, hands forward (hands probably are slightly ahead of sternum).
This eliminates hitting it fat.
I like to get the ball on the ground and running so usually pick a spot about 3’ on to the green, which gives me margin for error.

I have had success with Pelz’s methods for chips, pitches and bunker play.
He know a little bit about the short game.

I was hopeless out of a bunker before reading The Short Game Bible, basically taught myself no lesson required. Was so simple the way he explained it, I picked it up almost immediately.

[Weirfan]

I like to get the ball on the ground and running so usually pick a spot about 3’ on to the green, which gives me margin for error.

For me, where I land the ball will depend on several factors, whether I'm chipping from rough or a tight lie and whether i am into grain, down grain or down/up hill.

my goto club is a gap wedge so off a "normal" lie and to a relatively flat green I count on 50/50 carry and roll out. So for a 12 yard chip, 6 yards in the air, 6 yards roll out . If I were to use an 8iron, which sometimes might do, then I would count on twice as much roll out as carry (4 yards of carry and 8 yards roll out for 12 yard chip. I think this is sometimes referred to the rule of 12.

for me personally, because of my inconsistency ....eliminating as much of the finesse/feel aspect with repeatability means better scores. A pro or lower handicap than myself will be able to rely on more feel than I am capable of based on ability.

[Pingeye2_fan]

For me, where I land the ball will depend on several factors, whether I'm chipping from rough or a tight lie and whether i am into grain, down grain or down/up hill.

my goto club is a gap wedge so off a "normal" lie and to a relatively flat green I count on 50/50 carry and roll out. So for a 12 yard chip, 6 yards in the air, 6 yards roll out . If I were to use an 8iron, which sometimes might do, then I would count on twice as much roll out as carry (4 yards of carry and 8 yards roll out for 12 yard chip. I think this is sometimes referred to the rule of 12.

for me personally, because of my inconsistency ....eliminating as much of the finesse/feel aspect with repeatability means better scores. A pro or lower handicap than myself will be able to rely on more feel than I am capable of based on ability.

Of course there are more factors, when I say 3’ on I’m talking relatively flat lie.
One mistake I see amateurs make is to not look for the low shot as the first option, the lower the descent angle you can utilize will result in a much truer bounce forward and have a better chance to stay on line.