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Shallowing the Swing - A MAGIC Move ???

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  • Shallowing the Swing - A MAGIC Move ???

    Not long ago, i stumbled upon a vid by Bradley Hughes from Australia, in which he talks about "SHALLOWING the DOWN-SWING PATH". And also, Larry Cheung shows similar "move", IIANM.

    While i did mess with this idea long time ago, decided to try and experiment with it again few weeks ago, and while NOT A MAGIC MOVE, LOL, it has some merit, IMHO. IOW, as soon as i shallowed the downswing path, somehow, and "automagically", my strikes became, well hard to put in words, but more ""SOLID" and "PURE"

    Anyone else cares to comment on this ?
    Last edited by veryold; Nov 10, 2019, 10:02 AM.

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    Low and slow brother

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    • #3
      All good players shallow the shaft somewhat. It gets you hitting from the inside. Promotes a more consistent low point
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      • #4
        What is the move/drill that you did? Can you describe and/or send a link to a video.
        Regards,

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Golden Domer View Post
          What is the move/drill that you did? Can you describe and/or send a link to a video.
          Check Monte Scheinblum (sp?) on You Tube.
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          • #6
            Golden Domer:
            After doing a bit of "searching" i found out literally hundreds of vids on how to do it. The thing is they vary in approach (as everything else in golf instructions, i guess, lol) so you have to pick what works for you.
            For me, and i don't want to be "cute" here, it was keeping my existing swing and just swinging on a flatter plane.
            Cheers

            Maybe this vid may shed some light on the subject:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

            And while long, this may be worth studying as well:
            https://www.ggswingtipsgolf.com/blog/shallowing
            Last edited by veryold; Nov 11, 2019, 08:04 AM.

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            • #7
              Hogan did describe it in his book, 5 Fundamentals, with the " under the pane of glass" swing, perfectly illustrated by Ravielli
              Things change.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bl8d View Post
                Hogan did describe it in his book, 5 Fundamentals, with the " under the pane of glass" swing, perfectly illustrated by Ravielli
                Oh YA, excellent example - i had that book, and somehow managed to loose it in all our moves and relocations over the last few years, lol.

                But as a side note, and obviously this makes perfect sense from the geometry point of view, i always played with an "upright swing, back and down" and and as such, required more upright lies on my irons. But after few swings with this "shallower plane", and observing the divot shapes, i think that standard lie will do just fine, assuming i stick with it .
                Last edited by veryold; Nov 11, 2019, 08:45 AM.

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                • #9
                  VO, just a heads up on the lie adjustment of irons, and how its application has changed over the years.

                  TXG and other Modern fitters now adjust lie to mod flight direction, and smooth out flight shape.
                  I believe Ian,at TXG, though his swingplane is slightly upright has his irons adjusted slightly toe down in order to help him eliminate the left side of the fairway.
                  If his iron lie was , using the old way, matched up to his swingplane, via a lie-board, he would play from the left side of the fairway more often than not.

                  maybe Phatchrisrules can chime in here.
                  Things change.

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                  • #10
                    Interesting, but in my case, and NOT to negate and/or diminish at all what you said, i'm not consistent enough in my ball striking to have those kind of "fine" details, affect my ball flight much, well, NOT YET at least, LOL.

                    As for Phatchrisrules , hope he does, but we didn't end our forum back-and-forth on the most "positive note" quite some time back - mostly because of my inept attempt to be humorous while discussing the SHAFTS and such, but i'm willing and ready to start over
                    Last edited by veryold; Nov 11, 2019, 10:34 AM.

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                    • #11
                      shallow is definitely the way to go, David woods and tour striker came out with the plane mate. Skip the videos and invest in the tool itís literally a belt with a track on it. The resistance band attaches to the club and the belt and literally pulls the club into place

                      hard to get your hands on one but itís slowly becoming regarded as one of the best golf aids ever

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Geeve1008 View Post
                        shallow is definitely the way to go, David woods and tour striker came out with the plane mate. Skip the videos and invest in the tool itís literally a belt with a track on it. The resistance band attaches to the club and the belt and literally pulls the club into place

                        hard to get your hands on one but itís slowly becoming regarded as one of the best golf aids ever
                        I have it and itís hands down the best investment I have made in my golf game!!
                        looking forward to using it all winter.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by owu23 View Post

                          I have it and itís hands down the best investment I have made in my golf game!!
                          looking forward to using it all winter.
                          Dibs when you decide to sell!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by owu23 View Post

                            I have it and itís hands down the best investment I have made in my golf game!!
                            looking forward to using it all winter.
                            Just remember to take it off when we play.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by owu23 View Post

                              I have it and itís hands down the best investment I have made in my golf game!!
                              looking forward to using it all winter.
                              What's the name of that product?

                              This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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