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    TGN,

    Group of 8 are heading down to Scottsdale In late Feb early March and are looking for a few recommendations.

    We are all low cap players and want to play some solid tracks but don't want to drop to much $$$

    Any recommendations would be great.

    Thanks,

    Brent

  • #2
    Wigwam was a decent track albeit a bit of drive to get there. Also recommend Gold Canyon Dinosaur Golf Course, and Eagle Mountain. You are going during peak season so the prices will be high no matter where you go.....

    Hope this helps....

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    • #3
      For sure include Wickenburg Ranch. An hour drive north west from PHX but well worth it.




      If St. Andrews is the home of golf, Askernish is it's soul......!

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      • #4
        WeKoPa, two 18's, usually in great shape. Not sure what the fees are Feb/March, probably high season.

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        • #5
          Quintero is totally worth the drive out of the city!!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Clem92 View Post
            TGN,

            Group of 8 are heading down to Scottsdale In late Feb early March and are looking for a few recommendations.

            We are all low cap players and want to play some solid tracks but don't want to drop to much $$$

            Any recommendations would be great.

            Thanks,

            Brent
            Unfortunately, you are going at a very expensive time of year so to play any of the "Top" courses you are going to pay dearly. Best public courses like Quintero, We Ko Pa, Troon North, Grayhawk are going to run you in the $300 + USD range. Perhaps some of the snowbirds can suggest ways around that but I doubt it will be much of a savings. They are all good to play but factoring in exchange they simply are not worth $400 Cdn to play. I wouldn't pay more than $125 USD to play any of them ( and I have played all of them several times) but I rarely go in peak season.

            Most course will have varying rates depending on time of day , before noon will be most expensive, after noon cheaper and after 2 pm cheaper still. There are some good , lesser name courses that will challenge your game and not break the bank and should be 1/2 -1/3 the price of the above mentioned courses.

            Rancho Manana in Cave Creek is a pretty course with lots of elevation change. It's shortish but a good challenge. In March they charge $140 before 12:30, $115 after 12:30 and $65 after 2pm. Sun sets around 6:30 in March so you have plenty of time to play 18 after 2:00pm. For reference I paid $35 with cart for 18 in September.

            Las Sendas is another really good, but lesser known course. It's an excellent challenge with a slope of 145 from the 7000 yard tees.

            Johnson Ranch in San Tan is another one that goes under the radar. A good mix of holes, with some elevation changes and when I last played it in Winter was relatively cheap. ( albeit several years ago)

            Poston Butte in Florence is ranked in the top 15 courses in Arizona. It's a bit of a drive and will likely be a bit more expensive , but not like the aforementioned and its a superb course.

            Papago: is near the airport and while it's lacking in the infrastructure like nice cart paths etc, and a little rough around the edges , but now has a new clubhouse and bar/grill. Is a good, fun and challenging layout. Recently bought by ASU, it is being upgraded so pricing is going up. Used to get it for $75 in winter but could be $100 now. It's a course I play every year ( cuz it's $30 and $2 beers) and oh, Paige Spiranec has been seen there, saw her on the range a few years back.

            Others top end courses that might offer a slightly better rate because they are a bit of a driver are Southern Dunes, Wickenburg Ranch and Verrado

            Finally some budget courses and munis that I have played and enjoyed that offer good golf but not high end atmosphere and pricing , but dont expect pristine conditions ( kinda like Don Valley versus an Osprey) are Grand Canyon University, Ken McDonald, Lone Tree, Western Skies, Robson Ranch, Superstition Springs , Encanto.

            Finally, often if you play 36 you will get a better rate - I know Southern Dunes offers that and also Vearrdo which has 36 holes. Best to call the course say that you have 8 guys and want to play 36 and will be eating lunch and grabbing drinks in between and negotiate a rate. We have a guy who does it every year with our group and always get great rates well below posted prices

            personally I would avoid the $300 USD courses ( but is so inclined I would pick Quintero - by no means pay the $380 USD to play TPC, the course is so underwhelming and really not that exciting or pretty, was just ok but I would have been pissed had I paid more than the $90 I did) and mix in a few of the next tier down good ones like Southern Dunes, Poston Butte, Wickenburg then round it out with Johnson Ranch, Las Sendas, Papago , Ranch Manana , GCU
            Last edited by Weirfan; Nov 8, 2018, 03:08 PM.
            "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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            • #7
              Any ideas on any of these tracks? Don't need to go into detail but at least a thumbs up or down?

              Eagle Mountain
              Camelback
              Karsten Creek
              Talking stick
              Scottsdale Silverado
              McCormick Ranch
              Sunridge Canyon
              Lookout Mountain Golf Club

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Clem92 View Post
                Any ideas on any of these tracks? Don't need to go into detail but at least a thumbs up or down?

                Eagle Mountain = good course , only played it once
                Camelback = in old Scottsdale, played the Ambiente- Decent track but not wouldn't go back
                Karsten Creek = havent played
                Talking stick = overrated, over priced and boring golf. Does have the Casino there so..
                Scottsdale Silverado = havent played
                McCormick Ranch = I would avoid
                Sunridge Canyon = played it once and enjoyed
                Lookout Mountain Golf Club = played it years ago, don't remember much so cant be great nor bad
                note above. None of those hit our rotation so havent played them all did play Camelback 3 years ago.
                "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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                • #9
                  We played Eagle Mountain on our last day in Scottsdale. I really enjoyed it, the conditions were great, lots of elevation change and a beautiful view from the 19th hole overlooking the 18th...

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                  • #10
                    One of your considerations has to be driving time to save a few bucks and time of day to play. Phoenix is a large geographic city with a fair bit of gridlock, and choice of courses can depend on where you are staying relative to scottsdale central vs. time of day to play
                    As an example if you are staying in Mesa (sort of like Pickering to the GTA), do you really want to play Wickenburg Ranch at 9:00 a.m. - that would be like driving to West Oakville or worse from Pickering - over 1 hour 45 minutes, even though it's a highly rated course for the money.
                    Similarly if you are staying in the North, do you want to make the drive to Southern Dunes (like Barrie to Toronto downtown) - one of the best value for the money courses - maybe it's not so bad if you have an 11:00 a.m. tee time and you don't mind the drive back thru rush hour traffic.
                    My top value courses are a) Aki-Chin Southern Dunes b) Verrado Founders / Victory - 2 tracks c) Eagle Mountain d) Sunridge Canyon - albeit last time I played that was a few years ago and conditions were fine then e) Longbow f) TPC Champions (definitely NOT the Stadium Course g) Gold Canyon Dinosaur (horrible practice facilities unless they did improve this) h) Whirlwind Cattail / Devils Claw - 2 tracks - usually the 36 hole facilities give good rates even on replays to fill their capacity of times so I agree with Weirfan on that i) Golf club of Estrella - All of these solid but not spectacular golf
                    The spectacular memorable ones - Quintero, Wekopa, Boulders, Troon North, Camelback Ambiente - will kill your bank account as previously mentioned
                    Avoid Silverado, McCormick Ranch, Camelback - Padre, and take a look at the wrxgolf forum too
                    Personally I hated Ranch Manana Weirfan - absolutely tricked up and in the league of Annadale for me
                    Cannot comment on ASU Karsten, or Lookout Mtn. - Talking Stick North gets 50-50 reviews depending on conditions

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                    • #11
                      Re Rancho Manana, the big hitters in our group didnt like it because it was only 6100 yards and quite tight and so the straight and shorter hitters took all their cash.

                      I wouldn't call it tricked up , being shortish it's defences are tough , undulating greens and a requirement of accurate shot making. Definitely not a bomb and gouge course. There are a couple severe elevation changes - an steep uphill par 4 and a couple par 3's with elevated tees.

                      Is it in my top 15, no , but i threw it out there as it might be a cost effective option than paying ridiculous green fees of $200-$350 US that time of year. There are NO public access courses in Phoenix worth paying that much for

                      "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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                      • #12
                        Hi from Scottsdale !

                        A lot of the recommendations posted here are for courses way out of town so it really depends on where you base yourself. I'm in north Scottsdale ( Lone Mountain and Pima) and regularly play Dove Valley Ranch and Legend Trail. Both are solid tests of golf and won't cost you $$$. Quintero is about a 45 min drive from my house. It's a beautiful property but will have steep green fees that time of year. Worth a splurge though...maybe call the proshop and see if they'll do a 36 hole rate for you. It's pretty isolated out there so it doesn't get the same traffic as say Troon or the Boulders. If you base yourself in North Scottsdale you also have the 2 courses at Marriott Desert Ridge. I prefer the Faldo course over the Palmer course. Nice thing about the area is you have loads of entertainment options after hours.

                        Rancho Manana ... gets lots of hotel guest play ( read people who've never played golf) so it can be excruciating slow. I don't like it at all ..reminds me of an executive type of setup where you're hitting irons of the tee all day long.

                        Others have mentioned SunRidge Canyon, Eagle Mountain and We-ko-pa. Those are all way out east in Fountain Hills so again, depending on where you base yourself is key. They're not cheap courses either. I prefer Eagle Mountain over Sunridge.

                        Those courses mentioned that are in Tempe / Sky Harbor area ( Ak Chin, Papago) are generally cheaper but be prepared to fight the traffic.
                        Good luck

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