Loud Music is Fine, Wearing a Shirt is Optional

[ManFromMoffat]

Im going to guess your age is 55+ isn't it?

I bet you that if you polled a golf course, less then 5 percent of public players listen to music. So lets say 10,000 rounds at an average mom and pop track. So thats 500 rounds a year with music playing. Of those 500 rounds Im saying 10% of those people listen too loudly, so 50 rounds out of 10,000 there is music too loud.

Classic Benz, your a complete classic. Griping about 50 rounds out of 10,000 being loud.... the equivalent of 0.005%.

Please break down your version of the percentages as well. I think my estimates are fairly reasonable. Perhaps a Marshall can chime in with their experiences to give us some hard data.

Do you play PXG clubs or do you just want to play them?

[raptorslover]

Do you play PXG clubs or do you just want to play them?

Im stating that less then 1% of rounds played have loud music... so your griping about less then 1% affecting your golf life.

Nothing wrong with someone making a claim and backing it up with some math. Your welcome to provide some %'s as to how many rounds are getting disrupted.... or how many rounds in your lifetime have been interrupted with music.

[Benz]

Im going to guess your age is 55+ isn't it?

I bet you that if you polled a golf course, less then 5 percent of public players listen to music. So lets say 10,000 rounds at an average mom and pop track. So thats 500 rounds a year with music playing. Of those 500 rounds Im saying 10% of those people listen too loudly, so 50 rounds out of 10,000 there is music too loud.

Classic Benz, your a complete classic. Griping about 50 rounds out of 10,000 being loud.... the equivalent of 0.005%.

Please break down your version of the percentages as well. I think my estimates are fairly reasonable. Perhaps a Marshall can chime in with their experiences to give us some hard data.

My personal stats are none of your business, nor are my opinions validated or invalidated based on them.

As for your made-up statistics, I don't believe that they're accurate. As I stated earlier, I have observed a growing trend of loud music on various golf courses over the last couple of years. Fortunately for me, I play most often during early mornings. However, when I happen to play mid-day and (especially) twilight rounds, that's where I've observed loud music most often and almost universally on guys riding on carts.

Why don't we reorient this discussion from the golf course to a movie theatre. Would you simploy ignore someone who used their cellphone to take and make voice calls during the showing of a movie? If not, why not? What's the difference if one guy makes a few calls during the course of a 2-hour movie? So a few dozen people can't hear the show, that's nothing compared to the number of moviegoers in a year, right?

[Galted]

Im stating that less then 1% of rounds played have loud music... so your griping about less then 1% affecting your golf life.

Actually, my guess would be significantly lower which suggests almost nobody wants it on the course. Any guess why? Because it is inconsiderate and does not belong there. But you say golf is changing? Your percentages suggest it is not changing regarding music as only jerks play it. The same jerks blow cigar smoke in people's faces, bellow like wounded elephants, slow the course down, etc etc It is a jerk behaviour or we wouldn't be talking about it, not a new trend.

[ace in the hazard]

Why don't we reorient this discussion from the golf course to a movie theatre. Would you simploy ignore someone who used their cellphone to take and make voice calls during the showing of a movie? If not, why not? What's the difference if one guy makes a few calls during the course of a 2-hour movie? So a few dozen people can't hear the show, that's nothing compared to the number of moviegoers in a year, right?

Cell phones are banned in movie theatres. Many golf course proshops sell bluetooth speakers so they are allowing or even encouraging music.

I support those who say loud music is inappropriate but If I'm playing alone, I often have my speaker playing in my bag or on my pushcart. If I'm 20 feet away, I can't hear it so I know you can't on the next fairway.

When i walk up to a teebox, if there's someone there, the volume goes off. If I join up, the volume goes off and I don't ask if they mind if I play it because i know there are too many people who won't say they do, but will resent it.

on the rare occassion I cart with my wife or buddies, we sometimes have music playing in the cubby of the cart where you can only hear it sitting in the cart or 10 feet of it. Same deal with tee boxes etc.

I don't use earbuds because they interfere with my swing.

[Benz]

I don't use earbuds because they interfere with my swing.

That's not a problem for me. I grip the club with my hands...

[Jeffc]

Cell phones are banned in movie theatres. Many golf course proshops sell bluetooth speakers so they are allowing or even encouraging music.

Banned? Discouraged perhaps but I don't think they are banned. Is a ghetto blaster banned? Could I bring one of those in then?

[raptorslover]

Cell phones are banned in movie theatres. Many golf course proshops sell bluetooth speakers so they are allowing or even encouraging music.

I support those who say loud music is inappropriate but If I'm playing alone, I often have my speaker playing in my bag or on my pushcart. If I'm 20 feet away, I can't hear it so I know you can't on the next fairway.

When i walk up to a teebox, if there's someone there, the volume goes off. If I join up, the volume goes off and I don't ask if they mind if I play it because i know there are too many people who won't say they do, but will resent it.

on the rare occassion I cart with my wife or buddies, we sometimes have music playing in the cubby of the cart where you can only hear it sitting in the cart or 10 feet of it. Same deal with tee boxes etc.

I don't use earbuds because they interfere with my swing.

here is a perfect example of a guy that's responsible with how he listens to music. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he doing and good on him for doing it if he enjoys his quiet time responsibly like that.

If Benz and Man from Moffatt had their way, you'd be in jail.

[bogey5]

I'd go so far as to say that the attitude can detracts from more than simply golf. Someone else blaring music such that it affects someone else's enjoyment of a shared space is rude and shouldn't be tolerated. You can see that in other areas - condo pool decks, public parks, etc. If we are told to just let it go or that we can't do anything about it, then the inconsiderate will always win over those who are considerate of other people. I'm all for compromise, but that doesn't mean "ignoring it" and letting someone else affect my enjoyment of a golf course or shared space.

I think you hit the nail with comment above. Seems it's not necessarily about golf but how we behave and affect others' in shared spaces. I don't have any experience with loud music on course yet and if it's not loud enuff for me to hear not sure why I'd care. But if somebody wants to play it loud put your ear buds in cause I don't want to hear what everyone else listens to. I don't think things like loud music, loud phone calls, belching, farting, smelly feet, etc are appropriate in other open or closed shared spaces like parks, restaurants, theatres, subway cars, whatever. Just seems kinda rude.

[4wedges]

Please define a moderate level. Will someone on another fairway - 60+ yards away - hear your music clearly? I don't think I'd call that moderate.





I'd go so far as to say that the attitude can detracts from more than simply golf. Someone else blaring music such that it affects someone else's enjoyment of a shared space is rude and shouldn't be tolerated. You can see that in other areas - condo pool decks, public parks, etc. If we are told to just let it go or that we can't do anything about it, then the inconsiderate will always win over those who are considerate of other people. I'm all for compromise, but that doesn't mean "ignoring it" and letting someone else affect my enjoyment of a golf course or shared space.

Well said.

[ace in the hazard]

That's not a problem for me. I grip the club with my hands...

Surprises me that you've tried playing with them since you're not fan of music on the course

[sharkhark]

Cell phones are banned in movie theatres. Many golf course proshops sell bluetooth speakers so they are allowing or even encouraging music.

I support those who say loud music is inappropriate but If I'm playing alone, I often have my speaker playing in my bag or on my pushcart. If I'm 20 feet away, I can't hear it so I know you can't on the next fairway.

When i walk up to a teebox, if there's someone there, the volume goes off. If I join up, the volume goes off and I don't ask if they mind if I play it because i know there are too many people who won't say they do, but will resent it.

on the rare occassion I cart with my wife or buddies, we sometimes have music playing in the cubby of the cart where you can only hear it sitting in the cart or 10 feet of it. Same deal with tee boxes etc.

I don't use earbuds because they interfere with my swing.

Since i moved out east i have not witnessed any courses selling or renting bluetooth speakers and in fact i have witnessed many with notices in the pro shop warning against them. i do not know where all these courses are encouraging this....maybe dumps...but i find it hard to believe that anything more than a handful of probably hurting courses are promoting this.

If nobody plays music everybody can agree that we can all play golf...but if you allow music your interfering with some peoples ...most peoples...the majorities.....enjoyment.

there is a reason they have beats....and air pods.....aka headphones....you put them on and you can play golf and dance the night away...

people keep talking about how low these sounds are and that 20 feet away they cannot even hear them. its a lie.
if you have such a hard time hearing the music then you wouldnt be playing it all...the fact is your playing it because you can hear it...and others therefore can hear it too.

put your headphones on....so you alone enjoy the music and leave my enjoyment of the quiet ....alone.

I work everyday in a mall with my business....i hear people yelling...kids crying...i drive home i hear the guy with the subwoofer worth more than his car blaring away...
i hear the neighbours having a friday night bass heavy party...and you know what...i have to overall just live with it...

but not on the golf course pretty much the only place for nature. wear your headphones. be considerate. its simple.
I highly doubt that delcining golf participation is in any big way going to be influenced because of music blaring. young people do not have cash. simple.
anyone young i bring out golfing is absolutely blown away to invest time driving there....5 hrs playing....1 hr after to eat and drink and drive home...

and to pay ...lets say...$75 bucks. they are baffled and they willl not do anything like that expensive regularly...and blaring music will not change it.

golf in general is declining and courses will go...and leave less...and die hards will play like me...but using music as a excuse to bring in a crop of loud playing....goofing around...
guys mostly driving and yahooing it up in golf carts is not going to bring in the money.

[Benz]

here is a perfect example of a guy that's responsible with how he listens to music. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he doing and good on him for doing it if he enjoys his quiet time responsibly like that.

If Benz and Man from Moffatt had their way, you'd be in jail.

DO NOT put words in my mouth.

[ChasingPar]

For people who play music at the golf course, I'm curious: What do you do when you go to a music concert? Do you whip out your pitching wedge and a couple of golf balls to practice your chipping???

[ace in the hazard]

Banned? Discouraged perhaps but I don't think they are banned. Is a ghetto blaster banned? Could I bring one of those in then?

Every theatre i've been to lately has a notice after the trailer to turn off your phone. It used to be just ringers but now they say texting etc because the screen light bothers people. I've seen offenders escorted out for using them.