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  • 2 Man Scramble - Best Shot rule?

    Cant really find any rule about this - when playing a 2 - man scramble does the best shot have to remain untouched and played as is? or do they get the 1 club length as well?

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    Originally posted by hollywood416 View Post
    Cant really find any rule about this - when playing a 2 - man scramble does the best shot have to remain untouched and played as is? or do they get the 1 club length as well?
    That's up to the Committee in charge of the competition. There are no scramble Rules in the Rules of golf.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by hollywood416 View Post
      Cant really find any rule about this - when playing a 2 - man scramble does the best shot have to remain untouched and played as is? or do they get the 1 club length as well?
      It depends. I've played in ones where the original ball is played where it lies and the other placed as close as possible to same and have played in others where you can mark and get anywhere from a scorecard to a clublength leeway.

      One thing that is common to all is that any leeway cannot have the ball closer to the hole and cannot move from one condition to another. Ie: if you are in the rough, you cannot use your clublength to play from the fairway etc.
      "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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      • #4
        If specific rules for the Tourney have not been written before the event it is anybody's guess.

        In our company events; 4 ball or 2 ball, original landing spot was marked with a Tee whatever and everybody dropped within a club length of that, but always remaining in rough, sand or whatever.

        In money events we played in, Player 1 would have to play from the lie the ball was in, with Player 2 dropping a ball within a club's length of that spot.
        So it depends on the crowd you are golfing with.

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        • #5
          YMMV, but I've never heard of a scramble where the used shot is played as is. That would mean that player has to go first and the team may want them to go last or somewhere in between. Mark with a tee and place within a scorecard length in the same area of the course.

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          • #6
            In the only serious scramble I play in you mark the ball and everyone plays from anywhere within one scorecard of the mark, no closer to the hole, respect the medium (rough must stay in rough, etc).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wlorcb View Post
              YMMV, but I've never heard of a scramble where the used shot is played as is. That would mean that player has to go first and the team may want them to go last or somewhere in between. Mark with a tee and place within a scorecard length in the same area of the course.
              In the 2 man event I played in, the player whose ball we used did not have to play first, but that ball needed to be played as it lay. the other ball was simply placed within a club-length ( and that had to be the club you would be using to hit the shot) away. ( no closer)
              "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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              • #8
                Here is what the Senior Ryder Cup competition uses. The key is that it is clearly defined for this game.
                1. TWO MAN SCRAMBLE

                Two competitors play as partners each playing their own ball. The scramble portion of this game allows both

                players to select the best ball played after each shot from within one (1) club length from tee to green and

                until ball is holed out. If the ball is played from a penalty area

                EXAMPLE: On a par four, both players drive their balls. "A's" ball is declared the best ball; "B" picks up

                his ball and proceeds to where "A's" ball is located; both players play their next shot from within one club

                length of where "A's" ball came to rest, not nearer to the hole; the ball may be lifted, cleaned and placed. The

                same procedure continues until the ball is in the hole. NOTE: A ball can be relocated (placed) from rough to

                fairway or from rough to fringe of the green but NOT to the short cut of the green.

                Ball in a penalty area or a bunker, the one club length placement is not allowed. If the declared best ball

                is in a penalty area and the decision is to play it without penalty, the first ball must be played from where it

                lies; the second ball shall be placed as close as possible to where the first ball came to rest.

                A ball in a bunker, the first ball is played from where it lies; the second ball is placed as near
                Aim at nothing and you will hit it every time.

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                • #9
                  Who/what is the Senior Ryder Cup?

                  But why are players given 1cl? Surely 6" or a card is more representative of the shot to be played. 1cl can present a massive undeserved advantage.

                  Certainly all scrambles that I have ever seen are 6". The same as the norm over here for Preferred Lies
                  Putting isn't golf, greens should be treated almost the same as water hazards: you land on them, then add two strokes to your score.
                  - Chi Chi Rodriguez

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by aaagc View Post
                    Who/what is the Senior Ryder Cup?

                    But why are players given 1cl? Surely 6" or a card is more representative of the shot to be played. 1cl can present a massive undeserved advantage.

                    Certainly all scrambles that I have ever seen are 6". The same as the norm over here for Preferred Lies
                    In my experience, most competitive events do a scorecard for lift clean place, preferred lies and ball placement under other circumstances, although the one I mentioned above did not and likely that was due to the ball of choice having to be played as it lies so a scorecard would not provide enough clearance and so they used 1 club , but has to be the club used to hit that shot.

                    hacker and fun events here seem to be more flexible and generally within a club-length the norm
                    "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by aaagc View Post
                      Who/what is the Senior Ryder Cup?

                      But why are players given 1cl? Surely 6" or a card is more representative of the shot to be played. 1cl can present a massive undeserved advantage.

                      Certainly all scrambles that I have ever seen are 6". The same as the norm over here for Preferred Lies
                      The Senior Ryder Cup was created in 1999 to provide a forum for senior male golfers who enjoy competitive team match play. Since its inception the SRC has grown from 4 clubs in 1999 to the present 124. It is a non-profit organization and is mentored by a Board of volunteers whose Mission statement is: Provide and maintain an energetic and competitive match play format for senior male golfers and promote camaraderie and professionalism in senior golf activities in Ontario and surrounding areas.
                      www.seniorrydercup.com
                      Aim at nothing and you will hit it every time.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Golftime View Post

                        The Senior Ryder Cup was created in 1999 to provide a forum for senior male golfers who enjoy competitive team match play. Since its inception the SRC has grown from 4 clubs in 1999 to the present 124. It is a non-profit organization and is mentored by a Board of volunteers whose Mission statement is: Provide and maintain an energetic and competitive match play format for senior male golfers and promote camaraderie and professionalism in senior golf activities in Ontario and surrounding areas.
                        www.seniorrydercup.com
                        Thanks for this and the link, had never heard of this prior, are you playing in this years?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Weirfan View Post

                          In the 2 man event I played in, the player whose ball we used did not have to play first, but that ball needed to be played as it lay. the other ball was simply placed within a club-length ( and that had to be the club you would be using to hit the shot) away. ( no closer)
                          Some event I have played is that any player can play the ball as it lay. So we decide to pick player 2 ball . . . but player 1 hits his partner's ball . . . like most said, there is no rule. Organizing committee decides of the rules . . .
                          If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball.

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                          • #14
                            I play in the SRC and the format varies. Each event is a different format...Chapman, scramble, shamble, better ball.
                            Some very good players and always great competition.

                            Its also an opportunity to play some very good courses.
                            Our last match was at Oakdale.
                            Driver - Cobra F7
                            Fwy Metals - TM M2 3+5
                            Hybrids - TM SLDR 4+5
                            Irons - TM M4 6-AW
                            Wedges - King Cobra 54+58
                            Putter - Scotty GoLo5r

                            PAEUNGOO NAEMSAE

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 4underthru9 View Post

                              Thanks for this and the link, had never heard of this prior, are you playing in this years?
                              Yes, I am playing and acting as our club representative. It is a nice perk of membership.
                              Aim at nothing and you will hit it every time.

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