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  • New Euro Tour Slow Play Rules for 2020

    Highlights:
    -Key to the regulation changes will be a player only having to breach the time allowances twice in a round to incur a one-shot penalty. In addition, there will be significantly increased fines for players who are regularly placed “on the clock” throughout the season, alongside reduced times for players to hit shots.

    - Specifically, when players are “out of position” and either being monitored or timed, a one-shot penalty will be incurred after two bad times. Players will, however, have the option to request a one-time extension per round, giving an additional 40 seconds to hit what will be a (presumably) especially difficult shot.

    - In position” timing, introduced at the same time as monitoring, also will be strengthened. The time allowed to play a shot while still “in position” (currently double the “out of position” times), will be reduced by 15 percent, from 100 and 80 seconds down to 85 and 70 seconds, respectively, for first and second/third golfers to play.

    -Fines for consistently slow players who are regularly officially timed during the season will increase significantly. For example, a player who is timed 15 times in the 2020 season will have to pay £26,000 in fines as opposed to £9,000 this season.

    -All new tour members also will be assigned a dedicated referee to help educate them on pace of play. As part of retaining their membership, every member will be required to pass an interactive online rules test. Repeated every three years, this will be implemented for existing members towards the end of the 2019 season and all new members early in 2020.

    all sounds good....

    https://www.golfdigest.com/story/eur...cwMTIyMzcyNAS2
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  • #2
    Good for them for actually trying to do something about it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 4wedges View Post
      Good for them for actually trying to do something about it.
      Agreed.....a minute 25 and minute 15 still seem a bit long for time allowed to play a shot.....imagine if somebody here took that....heck, people here even think 15/seconds to hit a shot is bad and you "must" walk to your ball with your club already out and ready to hit as soon as you get there...rotf
      "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Weirfan View Post

        Agreed.....a minute 25 and minute 15 still seem a bit long for time allowed to play a shot.....imagine if somebody here took that....heck, people here even think 15/seconds to hit a shot is bad and you "must" walk to your ball with your club already out and ready to hit as soon as you get there...rotf
        Yeah, those seem like long times, but if they're not out of position.....

        Anyways, great to see the ET actually trying to do something about it.
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        • #5
          Just implement the shotclock masters at all events. Have the score guy also carry a timer. Or assign another person ti each group. Very simple.
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          • #6
            I agree with most of the comments here. The issue is transparency.
            The TV viewer, the fan, the gallery and other players themselves need to see explicitly the time start, tick down and the infraction.
            Why can't a standard bearer or shotlink/scorer carry an innocuous timer that is visible?

            I guess the overarching issue could also be...when exactly does the shot clock begin? When player "reaches" ball? When they pull a club? What if ball is OB or needs some time to be found? Seems like room for argument by a player (a slow one no doubt)

            EPGA seems to be getting more and more progressive with Pelley at the helm. Good on ya.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Papaof3 View Post

              I guess the overarching issue could also be...when exactly does the shot clock begin? When player "reaches" ball? When they pull a club? What if ball is OB or needs some time to be found? Seems like room for argument by a player (a slow one no doubt)
              .
              When the timer begins for taking one's shot ( what is being discussed above) is in the rules. I forget the wording exactly but it does not include ball searching, or measuring drops etc....it also has variation depending on if the player is first to hit or not...but iirc starts when it's the player reaches their ball and its their turn to play
              "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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              • #8
                An online test?
                Does anyone believe that a Tour player is actually going to take such a test himself?

                If these guys are sufficiently slow to incur repeated fines for slow play, then no online test is going to get in their way.
                Sage of the GTA...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Benz View Post
                  An online test?
                  Does anyone believe that a Tour player is actually going to take such a test himself?
                  Pretty easy to implement. Have a booth at a tournament that only the players can enter to do the test.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Weirfan View Post

                    When the timer begins for taking one's shot ( what is being discussed above) is in the rules. I forget the wording exactly but it does not include ball searching, or measuring drops etc....it also has variation depending on if the player is first to hit or not...but iirc starts when it's the player reaches their ball and its their turn to play
                    Exactly my point, the casual fan, TV viewer, heck... maybe even skilled player may not know the exact rule as it's stated...but pretty certain they can interpret a shot clock count down if transparent/explicit

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                    • #11
                      They are still missing something very fundamental as I see it. What is a good time to complete 18 holes in threesome and two balls? If the first group out (threesome) takes 5:25, everybody behind should have no problem keeping pace but it's still very slow. Based on set-up, walk between tees, weather, etc the first groups should have a target to keep. Say 4:30 for a threesome or whatever they actually deem good professional pace. Once bad times and slow play becomes evident, the new rules appear ready to address it better then before, but it's missing a big part of prevention.

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