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  • Temporary Greens Handicap Allocation for a temporary green hole

    Looking for some wording for our Winter Match Play on how to handle a temporary green on a stroke hole. In this scenario, our #3 stroke hole at this time of year becomes a temporary. Do we direct that hole to be a net par hole and move it's handicap stroke value to the next hole (the # 5 hole), leave it as it is or any other suggestion. We are at that time of year where this will become common.

    Yes we are still playing but it is muddy with torrential rains and the threat of snow on the horizon.

  • #2
    I'd imagine it says the same, since we technically can't be posting scores until the handicap season starts anyways. At least for USGA handicaps.

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    • #3
      Whatever agreed upon on the first tee...
      All LH :

      Driver : TM M3 9.5 Aldila TGw90
      4-wood : TM M3 16.5 Aldila RIP Theta
      3,4 hybrids : Adams XTD DHy 21, 24 Aldila RIP Tour
      5-PW : Adams XTD Aldila RIP Tour
      Wedges : Scor 50 & 58 AWT2.0
      Putter : Odyssey White Hot 2-Ball Blade

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      • #4
        We are posting handicaps for score out here although the GHIN refuses to accept them from our members who have dual handicap accounts. Our Course Ratings and Slope have been adjusted for Southern Vancouver Island and the Lower Mainland around Vancouver. This is why God made Gortex. It's 11 degrees (52 Farenheit) here right now. All the courses are open but lots of rain and flooding.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by sikoram View Post
          We are posting handicaps for score out here although the GHIN refuses to accept them from our members who have dual handicap accounts. Our Course Ratings and Slope have been adjusted for Southern Vancouver Island and the Lower Mainland around Vancouver. This is why God made Gortex. It's 11 degrees (52 Farenheit) here right now. All the courses are open but lots of rain and flooding.
          Our hearts and deepest sympathies go out to you in these trying and difficult circumstances.

          Fortunately there are no rules limiting the number of golf balls you can carry during a match!

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          • #6
            Your Local club committee should be making a ruling
            "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sikoram View Post
              We are posting handicaps for score out here although the GHIN refuses to accept them from our members who have dual handicap accounts. Our Course Ratings and Slope have been adjusted for Southern Vancouver Island and the Lower Mainland around Vancouver. This is why God made Gortex. It's 11 degrees (52 Farenheit) here right now. All the courses are open but lots of rain and flooding.
              sorry didnt see u were in BC.

              yeah its frozen and snowy here in eastern canada/us with a polar vortex on the way so yeah.

              lol

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              • #8
                Here is what we came up with and BTW all courses are closed here on Lower Vancouver Island due to heavy rainfall:

                Given the amount of rain we have been experiencing lately here are some timely reminders of procedures acceptable under the Rules of Golf and the New World Handicap system.

                1. Preferred lies are in effect and 6 inch improvement, no closer to the hole is available for a ball at rest in regularly maintained areas in the General Area. (Note: this is not available in unmaintained rough or in Penalty Areas)

                2. Temporary Water in the General Area - Many parts of the fairways have become so flooded that it is not always possible to find Complete Relief therefore it is reasonable to find the Point of Maximum Available Relief no closer to the hole.

                3. Temporary Water in Bunkers - Free relief is only available if the player is able to drop within the Bunker by means of Nearest Point of Complete relief or in extreme flooding, Point of Maximum Available Relief. If a Bunker is completely flooded and free relief is not possible then the player may drop back online out of the Bunker for one Penalty Stroke. If the flooded Bunker is marked Ground Under Repair by the golf course/committee then the Penalty Stroke does not apply. (Note: it is not acceptable to build a lie by means of piling sand in the bunker in order to achieve free relief)

                4. Temporary Greens - Players may putt if they wish however, given the variances of ground condition it is reasonable to assume that once a ball comes to rest within the circle of the temporary green, a player would take no more than two strokes to complete the hole as per WHS rule 3.3 (most likely score). In the absence of a circle for a temporary green or if the circle has washed away, then the 2 flag lengths rule would apply, that is if the ball is within 2 flag lengths, a player would take no more than two strokes to complete the hole.




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                • #9
                  I didn't know you can post a match play score/round for handicap... I mean what did you really get on a certain hole that you didn't hole out? Lets say you're OB twice on a hole and decided to concede when you knew that you couldn't tie or win the hole?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TeeItHi View Post
                    I didn't know you can post a match play score/round for handicap... I mean what did you really get on a certain hole that you didn't hole out? Lets say you're OB twice on a hole and decided to concede when you knew that you couldn't tie or win the hole?
                    https://www.usga.org/content/usga/ho...Hole%20Out.htm

                    more details on the page...
                    When a player starts a hole but does not hole out for a valid reason, subject to other provisions set out within the Rules of Handicapping, the player must record their most likely score or net double bogey, whichever is lower, as appropriate for the situation and depending on the format of play.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TeeItHi View Post
                      I didn't know you can post a match play score/round for handicap.
                      See Rule 2.1a Played in an Authorized Format of Play

                      Individual match play:

                      Organized competition
                      General play
                      Putting isn't golf, greens should be treated almost the same as water hazards: you land on them, then add two strokes to your score.
                      - Chi Chi Rodriguez

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