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  • #46
    Originally posted by Weirfan View Post

    That is a nice luxury , 10 mins is what we do and probably the industry standard for daily fee courses.

    we don't allow people to tee off until the group ahead reaches the first green. Being an easy hole they usually get there ahead if 10 minutes but , but it is enforced and helps. Two is a tough par 5 and three is the # 4 h/c hole ....we marshal aggressively through the first 4 holes.

    course design very much contributes to pace. A very difficult starting hole can be problematic, as can longish walks between holes for courses with lots of walkers. My course was built to be a Private facility, I don't think you would design it the way it is if it were meant to be a public track. 8 is a very long and hard hole, 9 a tricky par 5, then there is the stop in between to get food, drink, use facilities followed by 10 being another tricky par 5.

    not sure I know of many courses with Back to back par 5's , let alone with a stopping point in between. A few long walks between holes ( few minutes each) also make things a challenge.
    Cambridge Golf Club has two Par 5s back to back (holes 2 & 3). Hole 2 is more of a long Par 4, especially from the white tees, but has a pond on the right hand side just where the landing zone is for driver to add to the challenge. Hole 3 is a straightforward par 5, but has a blind tee shot to a wide fairway.

    The pace of play is generally pretty good, but hole 2 can hold things up a bit due to a lot of players going for the green in two.

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    • #47
      ^^^ I think drivable Par 5's can be a choke point.
      It's rare that I try to get on in 2 anymore on most Par 5's. But when I do wait for the green to clear, I pray to god that I don't duff it and look like a complete wannabee-poser-hack-legend-in-my-own-mind !
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      • #48
        Originally posted by ARL67 View Post
        ^^^ I think drivable Par 5's can be a choke point.
        It's rare that I try to get on in 2 anymore on most Par 5's. But when I do wait for the green to clear, I pray to god that I don't duff it and look like a complete wannabee-poser-hack-legend-in-my-own-mind !
        Lol.....the 9th at my course is a short par 5 from the whites ( member tees) at 495 yards.
        I guess more of a long par 4 by todays standards. In the re-rating by GAO it is the #17 handicap hole so considered pretty easy. It does stretch out to 555 which is more typical of a par 5. It is a 90* dog leg to the left so with a properly placed tee shot one is often left with under 230 in so very reachable in 2 shots, but a difficult proposition with a creek all the way up one side, a massive 400 year old Oak tree that you need to carve the ball around and a huge, tough bunker that runs for 50 yards short left.

        I used to always go for the green in two but that bunker often thwarted my efforts at eagle or birdie and many times left with only a par, or bogey. Couple seasons back I decided to play it in 3 shots to see if I scored better, I birdied it 5 of the first 6 times playing it that way. I think I have only gone for it twice since, both times did get on in two.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Weirfan View Post

          Lol.....the 9th at my course is a short par 5 from the whites ( member tees) at 495 yards.
          I guess more of a long par 4 by todays standards. In the re-rating by GAO it is the #17 handicap hole so considered pretty easy. It does stretch out to 555 which is more typical of a par 5. It is a 90* dog leg to the left so with a properly placed tee shot one is often left with under 230 in so very reachable in 2 shots, but a difficult proposition with a creek all the way up one side, a massive 400 year old Oak tree that you need to carve the ball around and a huge, tough bunker that runs for 50 yards short left.

          I used to always go for the green in two but that bunker often thwarted my efforts at eagle or birdie and many times left with only a par, or bogey. Couple seasons back I decided to play it in 3 shots to see if I scored better, I birdied it 5 of the first 6 times playing it that way. I think I have only gone for it twice since, both times did get on in two.
          Reminds me of the short par 5 at Columbus, played it as a 3 shot hole gave up alot of birdies, only able to get it on in 2 with wind in my back

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          • #50
            Whose course.....thankfully not mine

            https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpy1Jol...KVjYNSXqZcj5RM
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Weirfan View Post
              Whose course.....thankfully not mine

              https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpy1Jol...KVjYNSXqZcj5RM
              That was painful to watch

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              • #52
                Originally posted by 4wedges View Post

                That was painful to watch
                Thought at first he maybe had a cockroach or something in his shoe
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Weirfan View Post
                  Whose course.....thankfully not mine

                  https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpy1Jol...KVjYNSXqZcj5RM
                  If I saw that on the first tee, regardless of whether I had already hit, I would walk away.

                  There is no way I would even think about playing with this guy.

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                  • #54
                    Maybe he has "new partner" yips
                    I would continue to play with him...can't judge a book by its cover

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by tywl View Post
                      Maybe he has "new partner" yips
                      I would continue to play with him...can't judge a book by its cover
                      If so, you're a better person than I.

                      IMO, that routine is not going to suddenly get better.
                      I would rather hit practice balls than spend time on the course watching that.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Weirfan View Post
                        Whose course.....thankfully not mine

                        https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpy1Jol...KVjYNSXqZcj5RM
                        Oh boy,I would be heading the other direction.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Benz View Post

                          If I saw that on the first tee, regardless of whether I had already hit, I would walk away.

                          There is no way I would even think about playing with this guy.
                          How about this one ?

                          https://www.instagram.com/p/CYdYWCMp...lq0dCwAUeYAw_4
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                          • #58
                            I think a lot of these are staged.
                            If I saw someone on the 1st tee like that....I'd tell them to hit "the damn ball" and if it wasn't an act....I tell them I'm playing ahead of them.
                            Nuff said.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Weirfan View Post
                              The only good thing about that swing is that with his feet so far apart he will hit everything left due to lack of hip rotation. We'd only have to search half the course for his lost balls.

                              So, I've got that going for me. Which, is nice...

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