The Panic over the CoronaVirus [ Covid -19] is both Ridiculous and Unjustifed

[rgk5]

Yeah, I replied to the original person who posted, not to you- did that simple fact really need explaining? I also just said too bad he felt forced which are Wiggins own words on how he described the situation. Why you continue to insult for no reason is beyond me. The post had nothing to do with you and yet you attack me for no apparent reason with no basis. I think somebody has a problem...

Not sure why you continue your childish insults and why you purposely seek out the Ninja, then complain when he engages. Seriously, take a look in the mirror.

Speaking of mirrors, do you have one behind your computer when you talk about yourself in the third person?

[Weirfan]

Speaking of mirrors, do you have one behind your computer when you talk about yourself in the third person?

[Pingeye2_fan]

Yeah, I replied to the original person who posted, not to you- did that simple fact really need explaining? I also just said too bad he felt forced which are Wiggins own words on how he described the situation. Why you continue to insult for no reason is beyond me. The post had nothing to do with you and yet you attack me for no apparent reason with no basis. I think somebody has a problem...

Not sure why you continue your childish insults and why you purposely seek out the Ninja, then complain when he engages. Seriously, take a look in the mirror.

You reply on top of any and all posts, think they are all directed at you.
Give your giant narcissistic head a shake, post wasn’t directed at you either.

You don’t decide what anyone posts and where.

[spinaltap]

Not sure if this has been discussed or posted already...too many posts to read through that have no relevance to the topic at hand anymore

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/en/covid19/documents/weekly-epi-report/2021.09.22%20Weekly%20Epi%20Report.pdf

If you don't want to go through all of it page 10 has a good table comparing reinfection to breakthrough cases. Basically to sum it all up, the risk of reinfection to COVID is still 2x in comparison to breakthrough cases in the vaxxed per 100,000. Although I'm sure the antivax side with ask about severity of symptoms and unfortunately the data doesn't speak to that. But that argument can be used on both sides of the coin.

[SeanAvery2point0]

Not sure if this has been discussed or posted already...too many posts to read through that have no relevance to the topic at hand anymore

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/en/covid19/documents/weekly-epi-report/2021.09.22%20Weekly%20Epi%20Report.pdf

If you don't want to go through all of it page 10 has a good table comparing reinfection to breakthrough cases. Basically to sum it all up, the risk of reinfection to COVID is still 2x in comparison to breakthrough cases in the vaxxed per 100,000. Although I'm sure the antivax side with ask about severity of symptoms and unfortunately the data doesn't speak to that. But that argument can be used on both sides of the coin.

I wonder at what rate tests are being conducted among the two populations... i.e. tests per 100,00 eligible for reinfection vs tests per 100,000 fully vaccinated.. for example, many states are not requiring that vaccinated people be tested prior to/upon returning from travel (as one example).

[spinaltap]

I wonder at what rate tests are being conducted among the two populations... i.e. tests per 100,00 eligible for reinfection vs tests per 100,000 fully vaccinated.. for example, many states are not requiring that vaccinated people be tested prior to/upon returning from travel (as one example).

My guess this is just symptomatic individuals who have decided to get re-tested. So the actual number would be unknown. The point is that the data is still showing a two-fold increase in symptomatic COVID in the unvaxxed who have had a previous infection. I'll have to find the study but there was one out of the University of Oklahoma that was showing that the antibody levels dropped significantly faster to SAR-COV-2 in comparison to other corona viruses people have encountered in their lifetime.

[Bellyhungry]

Looks like the US border is going to open late Nov!

I wonder if they would accept AZ for both 1st and 2nd dose.

I read somewhere that they don't accept mixed but not confirmed.

Presumably more details will come out.

[mpare]

Another winner ... or not.

RCMP investigating after man glues doors shut at COVID vaccine clinic | Vancouver Sun

[mpare]

This article claims that double AZ vaccination will be accepted.

Under new rules, Canadians with Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine can travel to the U.S. next month | CTV News

I wonder if they would accept AZ for both 1st and 2nd dose.

I read somewhere that they don't accept mixed but not confirmed.

Presumably more details will come out.

[Bellyhungry]

This article claims that double AZ vaccination will be accepted.

Under new rules, Canadians with Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine can travel to the U.S. next month | CTV News

Thanks Mike. This is helpful.

[Golfninja]

Hilarious, my comment wasn’t specific to your meme.
But if you want to believe that then fill your boots.

Keep working on that MapleMania wannabe persona.

See post 18900- you replied to my meme. That's a good way to keep arguing for no reason. You're a special one.

[Pingeye2_fan]

See post 18900- you replied to my meme. That's a good way to keep arguing for no reason. You're a special one.

Go melt some drives gramps.

[68shark]

And then there is this. This lady didn't want to be vaccinated. She ended up in the ICU with Covid and now has permanent lung damage. She's hoping others learn from her mistake and get vaccinated. Too bad that she learned such a tough lesson, but maybe it's publicity like this that might move the needle for the hesitant crowd. Age 61 and needing to have an oxygen tube for the rest of her life. With her lung issues, one can presume her life expectancy has been compromised significantly. That was so preventable. Not to mention the cost to the system of her care and taking up scarce health care resources.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/can-covid-unvaccinated-regret-move-vaccine-hesitant-1.6208044

[Bern]

I've ignored this site for weeks now due to the exercise in stupidity in arguing with the antivaxxers. I had the opportunity to chat with a guy I met fishing, he's a respiratory therapist at a local hospital. They have had 46 deaths recently from covid, 45 were unvaxxed, the vaccinated patient who succumbed was 90. The staff he works with have run out of compassion for those burdening the health care system.


I've been keeping an eye on Florida covid numbers for a while. They are averaging around 350 deaths a day, all of Canada is averaging 30. Evidence points to the fact that Florida is under-reporting covid cases so the actuals are likely much, much worse. Roughly 20 times more likely to die from covid in Florida than Canada based on population. At some point, we need to take out the stick. The evidence has been clear for months.

[Arthur Dailey]

Great resource AD, hopefully the anti vax mental cases don’t try and clog it up.

A resource provided by a hospital network that allows you to book a telephone appointment with a credentialed healthcare/medical practitioner to discuss vaccination.

Yet some still would rather rely on 'their own research'.

Despite not having applicable advanced degrees, access to a laboratory, direct experience in treating infected people, or belonging to the research community.

In some ways it is like dealing with children who have to touch the hot stove element before they believe that it will burn them.