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The Panic over the CoronaVirus [ Covid -19] is both Ridiculous and Unjustifed

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  • Originally posted by Ignatius Reilly View Post

    I feel sorry for anyone who signed up to be an executive or board member of this organization.

    You thought you were going on a mission of pure good - supporting children and their families in times of medical crises - and now you are forced into making very challenging ethical decisions, and in the full public spotlight.

    It's a bit of a no-win situation for them all. There's only two choices and one of them is "Damned if you do"...
    Exactly what I was thinking for RMH. They can’t win either way.

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    • More regarding the legality of mandatory vaccination policies in the workplace.

      Howard Levitt, senior partner with Levitt Sheikh, says he suspects the courts will rule on the side of the employer in most instances.

      “When all levels of government, all chief medical officers of health from coast to coast, and all of the serious members of the medical and scientific community say that the route to safety and getting out of the pandemic is through vaccinations, it is extraordinarily unlikely that a court will disagree and require the employer to pay wrongful dismissal damages if they fire the employee for refusal,” Levitt said.

      “If these workers have to deal with other people, whether they be coworkers, customers, suppliers or members of the public, and the employer has a mandatory vaccination policy, the employees have a very weak case.”

      Some employment lawyers say employees can make a strong case for wrongful dismissal if employers have not offered reasonable alternatives to termination, like working remotely.

      “On one end of wrongful dismissal claims, you’re getting anti-science and anti-vaccine arguments. But on the other end, you’re getting more sympathetic, individual claims for exemptions or accommodations — circumstances where, for example, remote work options really are available but the employer is unwilling to go there,” said Danny Kastner, an employment lawyer and partner at Kastner Lam LLP.

      It could be months, if not years, before the score of litigation over vaccine mandates is fully resolved.

      “Realistically, I can’t imagine any of these cases getting to court before the summer,” said Elisha Jamieson-Davies, a lawyer with Hicks Morley LLP.
      https://www.thestar.com/business/2022/01/14/extraordinarily-unlikely-a-court-will-disagree-unvaccinated-workers-are-filing-for-wrongful-dismissal-but-lawyers-say-their-chances-are-slim.html

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      • Just announced (taken from The Truth About Cars) website the US Supreme Court splitting along political lines has 'blocked' Biden's mandatory vaccination or test policy for workplaces.

        It appears that along with political leanings a major stumbling block was that a large number of state governments opposed it.

        A divided U.S. Supreme Court has blocked the Biden administration’s vaccine-or-test rule that would have been enforced by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and impacted roughly 1.7 million automotive employees.

        “Although Congress has indisputably given OSHA the power to regulate occupational dangers, it has not given that agency the power to regulate public health more broadly,” the court explained. “Requiring the vaccination of 84 million Americans, selected simply because they work for employers with more than 100 employees, certainly falls in the latter category.”

        The high court also doubted that the plan would have worked at all during numerous hearings, citing that 27 states had already issued formal opposition to OSHA’s plan to begin mandatory vaccination requirements for businesses. Their claim was that the proposed rules were unconstitutional and vastly exceeded the organization’s authority.

        Judges decided to oppose the Biden Administration’s plan to give OSHA more authority, with three members of the court’s left wing (Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan) having dissented.

        Though the Supreme Court did narrowly allow (5-4) a requirement that would require health care workers in facilities that receive Medicare and Medicaid funding to be vaccinated, pending further proceedings. This time it was the right-leaning members of the court (Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch, and Amy Coney Barrett) dissenting.

        The Canadian side of the auto manufacturing sector actually began requiring vaccine proof just to enter the building.

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        • Originally posted by Weirfan View Post

          Odd that they would be at a peak where experts say we are a good 2 weeks + from ours.

          Listening to Dr. ( flip flop) Moore yesterday he expects a flattening at the peak then decline but still high case counts well into March.

          Quebec , despite a lower vax rate than Ontario has implemented tougher mitigation measures which have been in place longer so perhaps they did a better job controlling it than we have

          It does sound s though everyone will get Omicron at some point, not sure we are there yet. I still know way more people who have not had it than who have. Probably 90 percent have not yet.

          I suppose that the other thing is, we are not going to be done with C19 after this wave, there may very well be other waves with Omicron and most certainly will be other variants of concern ...so the more vaxxed the better things will be for those.
          I am more not than have as well but that is changing very fast.

          I have spoken to three people today alone (and I've only spoken to 8) that I didn't know had it and they are now positive or have had it in the last three weeks. Many have family members that have it as well, and these are all careful people that work remotely right now and would be considered on the careful/very careful side of things. None have had significant symptoms but it obviously is still a little concerning to everyone. The worst had a family member with flu like symptoms, everyone else less and each one of those I spoke to didn't miss a day of work, although remote obviously.

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          • For those interested in the legality of vaccine policies/mandates in Canada, this article is about as succinct as it gets.

            https://www.tcwalkerlawyers.com/the-...cine-mandates/

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            • Originally posted by Bosco
              I’m sure he’s busy chipping the snow off his windshield with his Tim hortons card - all while not wearing gloves, a coat or hat - cause their effectiveness is no doubt questionable
              LOL, your right people have frozen to death with or without coats.
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              • Originally posted by luv2kruz View Post
                Ouch! Maybe another reason you don't want to get Covid.

                PENIS PERIL! Man claims he lost 1.5 inches due to COVID

                Author of the article:
                Brad Hunter
                Publishing date:
                Jan 13, 2022 • 18 hours ago • 2 minute read • 15 Comments

                https://torontosun.com/news/world/pe...s-due-to-covid
                Well I definitely won’t be leaving the house until this pandemic is over !!!

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                • Originally posted by luv2kruz View Post
                  Ouch! Maybe another reason you don't want to get Covid.

                  PENIS PERIL! Man claims he lost 1.5 inches due to COVID

                  Author of the article:
                  Brad Hunter
                  Publishing date:
                  Jan 13, 2022 • 18 hours ago • 2 minute read • 15 Comments

                  https://torontosun.com/news/world/pe...s-due-to-covid

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                  • Originally posted by Risky84 View Post

                    Well I definitely won’t be leaving the house until this pandemic is over !!!
                    Would you believe me if I said I have some to spare? Could use a little shrinkage.....

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                      • The logic of the majority’s position is beyond me. The one thing that I can say for certain is that the US Supreme Court’s decision will not be mirrored in Canada.

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                        • Given the lack of understanding of mathematics that many have demonstrated with respect to hosptalization rates, this short article is much needed.

                          https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/co...tm_campaign=86 866b28c0-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_5_3_2019_14_30_COPY_01&utm_medium=e mail&utm_term=0_995459bc2b-86866b28c0-177552052
                          This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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                          • Originally posted by mpare View Post
                            The logic of the majority’s position is beyond me. The one thing that I can say for certain is that the US Supreme Court’s decision will not be mirrored in Canada.

                            https://heathercoxrichardson.substac...m_campaign=cta
                            They may have become the dumbest country on the planet.
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                            • Originally posted by mpare View Post
                              Given the lack of understanding of mathematics that many have demonstrated with respect to hosptalization rates, this short article is much needed.

                              https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/co...tm_campaign=86 866b28c0-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_5_3_2019_14_30_COPY_01&utm_medium=e mail&utm_term=0_995459bc2b-86866b28c0-177552052
                              Great read Michael, sadly for the most part I think the anti-mathers are doing it as it doesn’t support their nonsense.
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                              • Originally posted by mpare View Post
                                The logic of the majority’s position is beyond me. The one thing that I can say for certain is that the US Supreme Court’s decision will not be mirrored in Canada.

                                https://heathercoxrichardson.substac...m_campaign=cta
                                Those same justices who seek to limit federal powers of regulation also believe in a strongly unitary executive doctrine (especially if the head of the executive is one of your guys). That sounds more like a King, or the boss of a bunch of crime families, than it does a President.

                                Meanwhile, DeSantis has threatened to fine any healthcare facilities that comply with the federal vaccination mandates.

                                The SCOTUS is no longer the judiciary branch of government, it's a wholly owned subsidiary of the GOP.
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