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  • These boats are crazy. America's Cup 2021 has begun.

    The first series of qualifying went last week with the Prada Cup.

    America's Cup is one of the oldest trophies in the world, but unlike many other sports, the sailors keep changing the rules and equipment.

    After 2 years of catamarans they've gone back to single hull boats, but with a difference: These are 75' long, weigh 7 tons and are raised out of the water on hydrofoils.

    The can go up to 90 kmh, in a relatively light wind of 25 kmh. Watching them round a turn at speed is.... Ronald J. Donkulous.

    Enjoy:

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  • #2
    That is amazing! Powering a hydrofoil boat like that on wind only is quite incredible!

    I remember a lot of years ago the Aussies’ came up with a unique keel design that was exceptional but painted it to disguise the shape. It was only during my first awareness of the AC (and I can’t honestly call my self a follower but I could maybe be one now) but I remember it as being a game changer.

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    • #3
      Amazing how the foil tech has advanced.

      Marty, I remember the Oz keel. It was indeed a game changer.
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      • #4
        That mainsail is quite interesting and there’s no keel on these boats

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        • #5
          When does a boat stop being a boat?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Fore Warned View Post
            When does a boat stop being a boat?
            exactly. I am all for technology but these don't appear to sailboats anymore. I guess if they are all using the same tech, but it seems to take away a lot of the human element.
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            • #7
              Wow that design almost has no friction with the water.

              Other thing that stood out for me as I haven’t watched in years is how they painted all those lines on the water.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fore Warned View Post
                When does a boat stop being a boat?
                I used to follow it a bit - they made the boat change to boost TV viewing. And it’s no longer open ocean racing- think these beauties would get smushed out on some rolling seas

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jeffc View Post

                  exactly. I am all for technology but these don't appear to sailboats anymore. I guess if they are all using the same tech, but it seems to take away a lot of the human element.
                  Well they are indeed sailboats and from the parts I watched human element is still a big deal because if you turn the wrong way or set your sail wrong the main hull settles back into the water and you lose a tremendous amount of speed and agility.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bosco View Post

                    I used to follow it a bit - they made the boat change to boost TV viewing. And it’s no longer open ocean racing- think these beauties would get smushed out on some rolling seas
                    Yeah, I think they were smart to move from boring coverage way the heck out to sea to near shore events where the entire race can be seen from a lot of vantage points. Fundamentally, they're in the entertainment biz.

                    Letting the rules go crazy on new designs was a good move too. The cats of the previous 2 races were pretty amazing to see, and now these things are just mind-boggling.

                    I wonder what the g-forces are on some of those turns? Gotta be like a sports car with grippy rubber.

                    Also - not sure anyone's fallen overboard, but OB at 90 kmh would not be pleasant.

                    Still plenty of skill involved. We've seen boats drop off the foil, faster and slower designs in different points of sail, some fairly close ROW challenges at high speed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fore Warned View Post
                      When does a boat stop being a boat?
                      When it stops floating. Then it becomes an anchor.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bosco View Post

                        I used to follow it a bit - they made the boat change to boost TV viewing. And it’s no longer open ocean racing- think these beauties would get smushed out on some rolling seas
                        Kinda like an F1 racer would get destroyed on regular roads.

                        There are still open ocean races that you will not see these specialized boats in.
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                        • #13
                          Plenty of drama on the water yesterday, the American yacht capsized and has moved from the favourite to be the challenger to pretty much out of it

                          If you watch around the 2 hour and 46 minute mark the drama all happens

                          Also worth watching what life now looks like in a country that handled COVID well. Watch the crowds down at the harbour all watching and living a normal life.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LhINyxgPuo&t=9914s

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pendlebg View Post
                            Plenty of drama on the water yesterday, the American yacht capsized and has moved from the favourite to be the challenger to pretty much out of it

                            If you watch around the 2 hour and 46 minute mark the drama all happens

                            Also worth watching what life now looks like in a country that handled COVID well. Watch the crowds down at the harbour all watching and living a normal life.

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LhINyxgPuo&t=9914s
                            Well. "That escalated quickly"

                            I was surprised that there were no expletives heard over the comms. I know I might have let one slip at a moment like that....
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                            • #15
                              https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=680620292609419

                              American Magic being rescued and saved by the crew, organizers, local authorities and competitors. Nice bit of sportsmanship.

                              On a side note (and maybe another thread), should many of the other sports organization consider holding their events in New Zealand for the next couple years while the pandemic subsides? Just strange (and a pleasant view) of all the patrons without masks on.
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