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    This morning I was listening to pop music while scanning through legal topics of interest to me when the lyrics of Ariana Grande's Can You Stay Up All Night caught my attention with the force of nails dragging across a chalkboard. While I usually don'tusually listen to the lyrics, these jumped out at me, and immediately struck me as being offputting, and I'm generally easy going. Worse, I recall my 11 year old grandson listening to this song. Whatever message is being conveyed, it doesn't appear to me to be one that one should be shouting from the rooftops to anyone and everyone. I'm not suggesting censoring lyrics, but I do wonder if all sense of propriety has now been lost. Maybe I'm just getting too old.

    In case you're wondering what the lyrics are like, here they are:

    "[Intro]
    Hmm

    [Verse 1]
    You might think I’m crazy
    The way I’ve been cravin’
    If I put it quite plainly
    Just gimme them babies
    So what you doing tonight?
    Better say, “Doin’ you right” (Yeah)
    Watchin’ movies, but we ain’t seen a thing tonight (Yeah)

    [Pre-Chorus]
    I don’t wanna keep you up (You up)
    But show me, can you keep it up? (It up)
    ‘Cause then I’ll have to keep you up
    ****, maybe I’ma keep you up, boy
    I’ve been drinking coffee (I’ve been drinking coffee; coffee)
    And I’ve been eating healthy (I’ve been eating healthy; healthy)
    You know I keep it squeaky, yeah (You know I keep it squeaky)
    Saving up my energy (Yeah, yeah, saving up my energy)

    [Chorus]
    Can you stay up all night?
    **** me ’til the daylight
    Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)
    Can you stay up all night? (All night)
    **** mе ’til the daylight
    Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yеah, yeah, yeah)

    [Verse 2]
    You drink it just like water (Water)
    You say it tastes like candy
    So what you doing tonight? (Tonight)
    Better say, “Doin’ you right” (Alright)
    Watchin’ movies, but we ain’t seen a thing tonight (Yeah)

    [Pre-Chorus]
    I don’t wanna keep you up (You up)
    But show me, can you keep it up? (It up)
    ‘Cause then I’ll have to keep you up
    ****, maybe I’ma keep you up, boy
    I’ve been drinking coffee (Said I’ve been drinking coffee; coffee)
    And I’ve been eating healthy (And I’ve been eating healthy; healthy)
    You know I keep it squeaky, yeah (Except this wine, babe)
    Saving up my energy (Yeah, yeah, yeah)

    [Chorus]
    Can you stay up all night? (All night)
    **** me ’til the daylight (Daylight)
    Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)
    Can you stay up all night? (Can you stay?)
    **** me ’til the daylight (Can you stay?)
    Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)

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    [Verse 3]
    Oh yeah, yeah
    Baby, you might need a seatbelt when I ride it
    I’ma leave it open like a door, come inside it
    Even though I’m wifey, you can hit it like a side chick
    Don’t need no side dick, no
    Got the neighbors yellin’ “Earthquake!” (Earthquake)
    4.5 when I make the bed shake
    Put it down heavy even though it’s lightweight (It’s lightweight, yeah, yeah, yeah, babe)
    Yeah, we started at midnight
    Go ’til the sunrise (Sunrise)
    Done at the same time (Yeah)
    But who’s counting the time when we got it for life? (Got it for life)
    I know all your favorite spots (Favorite spots)
    We can take it from the top (From the top)
    You such a dream come true, true
    Make a ***** wanna hit snooze, ooh

    [Chorus]
    Can you stay up all night?
    **** me ’til the daylight (Yeah, yeah)
    Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)
    (Thirty-four, thirty-five)
    Can you stay up all night? (Do you know what that means?)
    **** me ’til the daylight (Do you know what that means?)
    Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)
    Yeah, yeah, yeah

    [Outro]
    Means I wanna “69” with you
    Aww ****
    Math class
    Never was good"

    Can you stay up all night lyrics | Ariana Grande | Lyrics Musti

    This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

  • #2
    It was no different than when I was in the jr high and high school back in 02-08.

    But my god most of the music these days is terrible.

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    • #3
      Well Rock and Roll always was slang for sex.

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      • #4
        It’s def not this

        The Lemon Song
        Song by Led Zeppelin

        I should have quit you a long time ago
        Ooh-whoa, yeah, yeah, long time ago
        I wouldn't be here, my children
        Down on this killin' floor
        I should have listened, baby, a-to my second mind
        Oh, I should have listened, baby, to my second mind
        Everytime I go away and leave ya, darlin'
        A-send me the blues, rain down the line, no
        Hey, yeah-yeah-yeah, keep up, yeah, oh, yeah
        Babe-yeahh, yeah, treat me right, baby
        Ooh-whoa, whoa-whoa, my, my, my, my-hah
        Now take it down a little bit
        People tell me baby can't be satisfied-a
        Try to worry me, b-ba-baby
        But I never did end up guit-chewin' myself
        People worry, baby, can't keep you satisfied
        Huh, let me tall ya, babe
        Ah, you ain't nothin' but a nn-two-bit, no-good jive
        I went to sleep last night, I work as hard as I can-a
        I bring home my money, you take my money, give it to another man
        I should have quite you, baby
        Oh, such a long time ago-ho
        I wouldn't be hear with all my troubles
        Down on this killin' floor
        Squeeze me, babe, 'till the juice runs down my leg
        Do, squeeze, squeeze me, baby, until the juice runs down my leg
        The way you squeeze my lemon-a
        I'm gonna fall right outta bed, 'ed, 'ed, bed, yeah
        Yeah
        Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
        Juice, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby
        Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby
        Hey, babe, babe, babe, babe, oh, no
        No, no, now, now
        I'm gonna leave my children down on this killing floor
        Source: Musixmatch

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mpare View Post
          This morning I was listening to pop music while scanning through legal topics of interest to me when the lyrics of Ariana Grande's Can You Stay Up All Night caught my attention with the force of nails dragging across a chalkboard. While I usually don'tusually listen to the lyrics, these jumped out at me, and immediately struck me as being offputting, and I'm generally easy going. Worse, I recall my 11 year old grandson listening to this song. Whatever message is being conveyed, it doesn't appear to me to be one that one should be shouting from the rooftops to anyone and everyone. I'm not suggesting censoring lyrics, but I do wonder if all sense of propriety has now been lost. Maybe I'm just getting too old.

          In case you're wondering what the lyrics are like, here they are:

          "[Intro]
          Hmm

          [Verse 1]
          You might think I’m crazy
          The way I’ve been cravin’
          If I put it quite plainly
          Just gimme them babies
          So what you doing tonight?
          Better say, “Doin’ you right” (Yeah)
          Watchin’ movies, but we ain’t seen a thing tonight (Yeah)

          [Pre-Chorus]
          I don’t wanna keep you up (You up)
          But show me, can you keep it up? (It up)
          ‘Cause then I’ll have to keep you up
          ****, maybe I’ma keep you up, boy
          I’ve been drinking coffee (I’ve been drinking coffee; coffee)
          And I’ve been eating healthy (I’ve been eating healthy; healthy)
          You know I keep it squeaky, yeah (You know I keep it squeaky)
          Saving up my energy (Yeah, yeah, saving up my energy)

          [Chorus]
          Can you stay up all night?
          **** me ’til the daylight
          Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)
          Can you stay up all night? (All night)
          **** mе ’til the daylight
          Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yеah, yeah, yeah)

          [Verse 2]
          You drink it just like water (Water)
          You say it tastes like candy
          So what you doing tonight? (Tonight)
          Better say, “Doin’ you right” (Alright)
          Watchin’ movies, but we ain’t seen a thing tonight (Yeah)

          [Pre-Chorus]
          I don’t wanna keep you up (You up)
          But show me, can you keep it up? (It up)
          ‘Cause then I’ll have to keep you up
          ****, maybe I’ma keep you up, boy
          I’ve been drinking coffee (Said I’ve been drinking coffee; coffee)
          And I’ve been eating healthy (And I’ve been eating healthy; healthy)
          You know I keep it squeaky, yeah (Except this wine, babe)
          Saving up my energy (Yeah, yeah, yeah)

          [Chorus]
          Can you stay up all night? (All night)
          **** me ’til the daylight (Daylight)
          Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)
          Can you stay up all night? (Can you stay?)
          **** me ’til the daylight (Can you stay?)
          Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)

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          [Verse 3]
          Oh yeah, yeah
          Baby, you might need a seatbelt when I ride it
          I’ma leave it open like a door, come inside it
          Even though I’m wifey, you can hit it like a side chick
          Don’t need no side dick, no
          Got the neighbors yellin’ “Earthquake!” (Earthquake)
          4.5 when I make the bed shake
          Put it down heavy even though it’s lightweight (It’s lightweight, yeah, yeah, yeah, babe)
          Yeah, we started at midnight
          Go ’til the sunrise (Sunrise)
          Done at the same time (Yeah)
          But who’s counting the time when we got it for life? (Got it for life)
          I know all your favorite spots (Favorite spots)
          We can take it from the top (From the top)
          You such a dream come true, true
          Make a ***** wanna hit snooze, ooh

          [Chorus]
          Can you stay up all night?
          **** me ’til the daylight (Yeah, yeah)
          Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)
          (Thirty-four, thirty-five)
          Can you stay up all night? (Do you know what that means?)
          **** me ’til the daylight (Do you know what that means?)
          Thirty-four, thirty-five (Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)
          Yeah, yeah, yeah

          [Outro]
          Means I wanna “69” with you
          Aww ****
          Math class
          Never was good"

          Can you stay up all night lyrics | Ariana Grande | Lyrics Musti
          Mike,

          The actual name of that song is 34+35. I was never the best at math but even I can figure that out

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          • #6
            In some cases, you're right, but the beauty of literary devices such as allusion, suggestion and implication appear to have been jettisoned in favour of slapping the listener in the face with sex. Call me old fashion but I prefer subtlety.

            Originally posted by wlorcb View Post
            Well Rock and Roll always was slang for sex.
            This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mpare View Post
              In some cases, you're right, but the beauty of literary devices such as allusion, suggestion and implication appear to have been jettisoned in favour of slapping the listener in the face with sex. Call me old fashion but I prefer subtlety.


              I won't disagree with that.

              There always Spinal Tap-Lick My Love Pump

              or as Tom Petty put it:

              Or bring me a girl
              They're always the best
              You put 'em on stage and you have 'em undress
              Some angel whore who can learn a guitar lick
              Hey! Now that's what I call music!

              Well they'll come lookin' for money when the public gets bored
              But we'll fight 'em with lawyers they could never afford
              Yeah I'll make her look like a spoiled little *****
              She gets to be famous, I get to be rich

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              • #8
                You're right, but it is more popularly known by the title that I cited. That said, the sublety of "34 + 35" is in marked contrast to the song's lyrics. Would that I could add.

                Originally posted by threeputt View Post

                Mike,

                The actual name of that song is 34+35. I was never the best at math but even I can figure that out
                This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mpare View Post
                  In some cases, you're right, but the beauty of literary devices such as allusion, suggestion and implication appear to have been jettisoned in favour of slapping the listener in the face with sex. Call me old fashion but I prefer subtlety.
                  Could be just me me but reading those lyrics makes me think that Grande just writes horrible lyrics, Bjork's song Cocoon is in your face but with a poetic quality.

                  Who would have known
                  That a boy like him
                  Possessed of magical
                  Sensitivity
                  Who would approach a girl like me
                  Who caresses cradles his head
                  In her bosom

                  He slides inside
                  Half awake, half asleep
                  We faint back
                  Into sleephood
                  When I wake up
                  The second time
                  In his arms
                  Gorgeousness
                  He's still inside me

                  Who would have known
                  Who ahhh
                  Who would have known

                  A train of pearls
                  Cabin by cabin
                  Is shot precisely
                  Across an ocean


                  But then again, what do I know. I listened to W.A.S.P who wrote Animal (F**k Like a Beast) back in '84

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                  • #10
                    Dang....now I am going to have this song in my head for the rest of the afternoon. (All of this is more fanciful and suggestive than graphic.)

                    Was the theme song to our floor in University residence that year...1974

                    Lady Marmalade (Voulez-Vous Coucher Avec Moi Ce Soir)
                    Hey sister, go sister, soul sister, go sister
                    Hey sister, go sister, soul sister, go sister

                    He met marmalade down in old new orleans
                    Struttin' her stuff on the street
                    She said "hello,
                    Hey joe, you wanna give it a go?" mmm, mmm

                    Itchi gitchi ya ya da da
                    Itchi gitchi ya ya here
                    Mocha-choca-lata ya ya
                    Creole lady marmalade

                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?
                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?

                    He sat in her boudoir while she freshened up
                    The boy drank all her magnolia-wine
                    On the black satin sheets oh I swear he started to freak

                    Itchi gitchi ya ya da da
                    Itchi gitchi ya ya here
                    Mocha-choca-lata ya ya
                    Creole lady marmalade

                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?
                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?

                    Hey, hey, hey
                    Touching her skin feelin' silky smooth
                    The colour of cafe au lait
                    Made the savage beast inside
                    Roar until it cried, more, more, more

                    Now he's back home doing nine to five
                    Living his grey flannel life
                    But when he turns off to sleep
                    Old memories creep, more, more, more

                    Itchi gitchi ya ya da da da
                    Itchi gitchi ya ya here
                    Mocha-choco-lata ya ya
                    Creole lady marmalade

                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?
                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?
                    Voulez-vous couchez avec moi ce soir?
                    Creole lady marmalade

                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?
                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?
                    Voulez-vous couchez avec moi ce soir?
                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?
                    Voulez-vous couchez avec moi ce soir?
                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?
                    Voulez-vous couchez avec moi ce soir?
                    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?

                    Itchi gitchi ya ya da da
                    Itchi gitchi ya ya here
                    Mocha-choco-lata ya ya
                    Itchi gitchi ya ya here


                    Before that, (1972) it was......
                    Do You Want to Dance?


                    Bette Midler

                    Do you wanna dance, and hold my hand?
                    Tell me you're my lover man.
                    Oh baby, do you wanna dance?

                    We could dance under the moonlight,
                    Hug and kiss all through the night.
                    Oh baby, tell me, do you wanna dance with me baby?

                    Do you, do you, do you, do you want to dance?
                    Do you, do you, do you want to dance?
                    Do you, do you, do you, do you want to dance with me baby?

                    Ah, that's right, ah, ah, aaaaaaaah.
                    Do you want to dance under the moonlight?
                    Hug me, kiss me, baby, all through the night.
                    Oh baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, tell me, do you want to dance?

                    Oh, do you, do you, do you, do you want to dance?
                    Do you want to dance?
                    Do you, do you, do you, do you want to dance with me baby?
                    You got to dance with me baby.
                    Please dance with me baby

                    Fortunately there are no rules limiting the number of golf balls you can carry during a match!

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                    • #11
                      There always has been and always will be songs that are explicitly sexual. I think the biggest change in the last decade is that more of these songs are coming (no pun intended) from mainstream female artists.

                      The latest examples are the Ariana Granda song you referenced, but last summer had WAP by Meghan Thee Stallion and Cardi B. There have been examples from previous decades, including Betty Davis in the 70s, Millie Jackson in the 80s, Christina Aguilera in the 00s. You can even go back as far as the 30s and listen to some of the dirty blues songs from Bessie Smith and others, though these rely more on double entendres rather than being explicitly sexual.

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                      • #12
                        I'm just guessing, but I don't think Mike's read the lyrics for WAP by Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion if he thinks Ariana's going too far.

                        That's a subtle little tune for ya.

                        "Confusion" will be my epitaph
                        ...Iggy

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                        • #13
                          You're right. I am getting too old.

                          Originally posted by TheBaconator View Post
                          There always has been and always will be songs that are explicitly sexual. I think the biggest change in the last decade is that more of these songs are coming (no pun intended) from mainstream female artists.

                          The latest examples are the Ariana Granda song you referenced, but last summer had WAP by Meghan Thee Stallion and Cardi B. There have been examples from previous decades, including Betty Davis in the 70s, Millie Jackson in the 80s, Christina Aguilera in the 00s. You can even go back as far as the 30s and listen to some of the dirty blues songs from Bessie Smith and others, though these rely more on double entendres rather than being explicitly sexual.
                          This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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                          • #14
                            Well, you've never to old to rock and roll if you're too young to die.

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                            • #15
                              Another song (especially the video) with which I have problems. We're told that this was supposed to be an empowering song for women. What I heard and saw was the objectification and degradement of women by men, who treat them as chattels. I found it disturbing, and not in any positive sense. Now you've conclusively convinced me. I really am ancient.

                              Originally posted by Ignatius Reilly View Post
                              I'm just guessing, but I don't think Mike's read the lyrics for WAP by Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion if he thinks Ariana's going too far.

                              That's a subtle little tune for ya.
                              This isn't a dress rehearsal. Enjoy yourself. There's no do-over.

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