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  • #16
    Sorry for the title thread. I was reading the CNN article and the family's response and their insistence that it was about their religious ideology.

    There are way too many who seem to think that Christian=Republican=Good, Democrat=Bad and it is as simple as that.

    Again most people are religious, so the tables mean nothing until you ask how devout and yes the more devout the %, voting Republican is 80%+ and it is based on very little outside their stance on abortion, LGBTQ.....

    And who is the Catholic????? Biden, yet it doesn't matter as we can see it is the thrice married, adulterer, misogynistic, sexist non-church going Republican that they support.
    Last edited by golfingtime; Feb 23, 2021, 02:50 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Arthur Dailey View Post

      OK remove the chip from your shoulder for a moment.

      Where did it say 'problem' in my posting?
      What was referenced was historical fact/perspective. Just as the January 6th 2021 insurrection in Washington closely mirrored the coup attempt of Charles I on January 4th 1642.

      Also referenced was a study of African-American religious institutions.

      How much fairer and impartial can one get.

      Last night there was an interview with an American history teacher Sharon McMahon who has a popular social media account. According to Sharon, the major issue/problem causing the divide in US politics is that all media commentary/stories have a bias. Either that of the author, the editor, or the publisher. That has always been true. Highly educated people, and those who consume large amounts of media realize this. They also realize that heritage/mainstream media although biased, prints/broadcasts primarily verifiable and/or fact checked stories and will recant/apologize for errors. Alternate media sites often print/broadcast outright fabrications. Unfortunately in her opinion a great many Trump supporters cannot discern the difference. If they read/hear something from the heritage/mainstream media that disagrees with their opinions/beliefs they discount it as being 'fake' news, rather than accepting that it is actually based in fact, but 'slanted'. Whereas much of what Trump tweeted/stated or that alternate media prints/broadcasts is quite baseless/untrue and not based on fact and/or evidence. By spreading 'fake news' Trumpists have managed to confuse their most ardent supporters so that they cannot readily discern what is true and what is not.
      Dude - I didn't reference or quote your post. I have no chip. I'm not a God guy.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by vermin40 View Post

        Dude - I didn't reference or quote your post. I have no chip. I'm not a God guy.
        Sorry it was SA2 who referenced it. You quoted him.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Gwelfgulfer View Post

          Meh, you say racism others think it's just a 'differing opinion'...
          Different world view, which it is.
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          Let them in.
          We can deal with the bad apples.
          Evil prevails when good people do nothing.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Fredk View Post

            Different world view, which it is.
            The one not grounded in hate and bigotry?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Gwelfgulfer View Post

              The one not grounded in hate and bigotry?
              Kind of like the way you speak of the religious right? Do you have evangelical conservative phobia?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SeanAvery2point0 View Post

                Kind of like the way you speak of the religious right? Do you have evangelical conservative phobia?
                A disdain for their hypocrisy is not a phobia it's more of a logical conclusion.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Gwelfgulfer View Post

                  The one not grounded in hate and bigotry?
                  Different world views can be grounded in many things, some good, some not so good.
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                  Let them in.
                  We can deal with the bad apples.
                  Evil prevails when good people do nothing.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Fredk View Post

                    Different world views can be grounded in many things, some good, some not so good.
                    Doesn't make them right...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bern View Post

                      A disdain for their hypocrisy is not a phobia it's more of a logical conclusion.
                      why is it that when people criticize islam for some of the abhorrent practices carried out in certain countries they are always considered Islamophobic but when people criticize the religious conservatives in the U.S., it's a 'logical conclusion'?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SeanAvery2point0 View Post

                        Kind of like the way you speak of the religious right? Do you have evangelical conservative phobia?
                        I dislike all organized religion, regardless of what it is. Individual faith if needed, but believe in yourself before fairytales. So the fact you try and get me to single one out to try and push your chit narrative yet again is telling... I feel the same about religion as you basically, not needed and hard to understand their relevance in the 21st century.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SeanAvery2point0 View Post

                          why is it that when people criticize islam for some of the abhorrent practices carried out in certain countries they are always considered Islamophobic but when people criticize the religious conservatives in the U.S., it's a 'logical conclusion'?
                          So what about Islam or Muslims? You are a one-trick pony.

                          I have no time for some interpretations of Sharia law. I'm down for criticizing abhorrent practices in general as well as blatant hypocrisy. It ain't about God, it's about abiding by one version of religious doctrine in a Republic supposedly not governed by religion.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bern View Post

                            So what about Islam or Muslims? You are a one-trick pony.

                            I have no time for some interpretations of Sharia law. I'm down for criticizing abhorrent practices in general as well as blatant hypocrisy. It ain't about God, it's about abiding by one version of religious doctrine in a Republic supposedly not governed by religion.
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                            I don't think you are allowed to think/say that, it makes it harder to whatabout.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Bern View Post

                              So what about Islam or Muslims? You are a one-trick pony.

                              I have no time for some interpretations of Sharia law. I'm down for criticizing abhorrent practices in general as well as blatant hypocrisy. It ain't about God, it's about abiding by one version of religious doctrine in a Republic supposedly not governed by religion.
                              .
                              My point is that conservative evangelicals are far from religious hardliners. The only real hardline positions that evangelical conservatives take are on abortion and gay marriage; and with regards to the latter, from what I can see, most of them just don’t want the state involved in marriage at all.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by SeanAvery2point0 View Post

                                My point is that conservative evangelicals are far from religious hardliners. The only real hardline positions that evangelical conservatives take are on abortion and gay marriage; and with regards to the latter, from what I can see, most of them just don’t want the state involved in marriage at all.
                                Really???
                                Then why bring up Muslims at all?

                                Unfortunately, the evangelicals feel the only religion is their religion. Members of congress stating that it's not lawful to testify or proclaim an oath on anything other than a bible, How many examples would you like?

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