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  • #16
    “My doctor tells me I should start slowing it down—but there are more old drunks than there are old doctors so let’s all have another round.”
    Willie Nelson, I Gotta Get Drunk
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    • #17
      Originally posted by nomullies View Post
      Crumbs Serge. I probably knew this. If it's true, and I have no doubt it is, I'm not long for this world. Trying to cut back but I'm probably a drunk. Not an alcoholic, those people go to meetings. OK, OK. I don't drink everyday but do enjoy some wine, some beer, and a couple of good spirits per week. Hmmm, gonna miss this forum.
      Are you kidding, based on how good and strong you look, u probably good for another, at least 30 years
      And cheers to both of us
      "The secret of happiness, you see, is not found in seeking more, but in developing the capacity to enjoy less" — Socrates

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      • #18
        Thank god it's good for my liver, otherwise I'd only be able to drink for enjoyment.

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        • #19
          MEMBER OF THE 2012 AND 2015 RYDER CUP CHAMPS!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bl8d View Post
            I might have mentioned this before but asbestos wasn't the demon it is now. Victory houses for returning veterans were clad with asbestos shingles and siding.
            Up to the early '70 grade school art classes used Asbestos powder mixed with water as a clay modeling substitute.

            . If Alcohol causes cancer ,a viable view is that your drowning your cells in multiple choices. LOL
            And I used to make asbestos ashtrays in grade two class for our valentines day gift(s) to our parents. I remember I liked th smell of the material when the teacher dropped a wad of the stuff on our desks to start working with. And when you are a little kid and you liked the smell of it, of course you took a nibble or two to see how it also tastes... Well I'm 63yrs old now so hopefully I got away unscathed???
            addicted to G.

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            • #21
              Well, something has to kill you. Might as well be something you enjoy.
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              • #22
                Abstract

                Objective


                To analyse mortality and life expectancy in people with alcohol use disorder in Denmark, Finland and Sweden.
                Method


                A population-based register study including all patients admitted to hospital diagnosed with alcohol use disorder (1 158 486 person-years) from 1987 to 2006 in Denmark, Finland and Sweden.
                Results


                Life expectancy was 24–28 years shorter in people with alcohol use disorder than in the general population. From 1987 to 2006, the difference in life expectancy between patients with alcohol use disorder and the general population increased in men (Denmark, 1.8 years; Finland, 2.6 years; Sweden, 1.0 years); in women, the difference in life expectancy increased in Denmark (0.3 years) but decreased in Finland (−0.8 years) and Sweden (−1.8 years). People with alcohol use disorder had higher mortality from all causes of death (mortality rate ratio, 3.0–5.2), all diseases and medical conditions (2.3–4.8), and suicide (9.3–35.9).
                Conclusion


                People hospitalized with alcohol use disorder have an average life expectancy of 47–53 years (men) and 50–58 years (women) and die 24–28 years earlier than people in the general population.

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                • #23
                  What is the average life expectancy of doctors, nurse, and other medical professionals?

                  From Lifespan and cardiology looking the obituaries in the BMJ (UK) from January 1997 to December 2004 Not much different compared to other professionals

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Breakpar View Post
                    Abstract

                    Objective


                    To analyse mortality and life expectancy in people with alcohol use disorder in Denmark, Finland and Sweden.
                    Method


                    A population-based register study including all patients admitted to hospital diagnosed with alcohol use disorder (1 158 486 person-years) from 1987 to 2006 in Denmark, Finland and Sweden.
                    Results


                    Life expectancy was 24–28 years shorter in people with alcohol use disorder than in the general population. From 1987 to 2006, the difference in life expectancy between patients with alcohol use disorder and the general population increased in men (Denmark, 1.8 years; Finland, 2.6 years; Sweden, 1.0 years); in women, the difference in life expectancy increased in Denmark (0.3 years) but decreased in Finland (−0.8 years) and Sweden (−1.8 years). People with alcohol use disorder had higher mortality from all causes of death (mortality rate ratio, 3.0–5.2), all diseases and medical conditions (2.3–4.8), and suicide (9.3–35.9).
                    Conclusion


                    People hospitalized with alcohol use disorder have an average life expectancy of 47–53 years (men) and 50–58 years (women) and die 24–28 years earlier than people in the general population.
                    That's different from the topic of this thread, though. Someone who drinks occasionally, per the thread topic, stands an elevated risk of getting cancer; that's not the same as someone who has an alcohol disorder -- and one so severe that they are hospitalized.

                    Actually, I'm not sure how revealing that study is anyway -- I'm not surprised to learn that a person with an alcohol disorder so severe that they need to be hospitalized has a shorter life expectancy. Generally speaking, I would think anyone hospitalized for any disorder has elevated health risks. That "hospitalized" thing is a bit of an indicator of poor health, in my opinion.

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                    • #25
                      Since I turned 18 and it became legal for me to drink (that was the age then), the cumulative total of the amount of alcohol, wine and beer that I have consumed would not fill a 'mickey' bottle.

                      Yet I got a double whammy back in 2019.

                      Sometimes the odds don't work out.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Arthur Dailey View Post
                        Since I turned 18 and it became legal for me to drink (that was the age then), the cumulative total of the amount of alcohol, wine and beer that I have consumed would not fill a 'mickey' bottle.

                        Yet I got a double whammy back in 2019.

                        Sometimes the odds don't work out.
                        Yet my father, who smoked three packs a day for more than 20 years is still alive and (mostly) well at 87. Genetics.

                        I'm not changing my alcohol consumption. I'll just wait for the cycle where the research shows how good booze is for you.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Fredk View Post

                          Yet my father, who smoked three packs a day for more than 20 years is still alive and (mostly) well at 87. Genetics.

                          I'm not changing my alcohol consumption. I'll just wait for the cycle where the research shows how good booze is for you.
                          They play part for sure. My Mom "loved" Red Wine and was a heavy smoker since the age of 16 but still almost made it to 90, and almost a carbon copy with her Father (my Grand)
                          "The secret of happiness, you see, is not found in seeking more, but in developing the capacity to enjoy less" — Socrates

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                          • #28
                            statistically, the chance you beat the odds is very low, no matter who your grand/father/mother are

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