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Jordan Spieth - What's Happening to the Wonder Boy ?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by AdiosAmigo View Post

    My point is that he is not happy and content with the good life. He wants to get back the game he knows he has. He isnt a quitter thats for sure.
    Agreed. I don't think one achieves the heights he did without a huge competitive streak in them, and the determination to match that.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by 4underthru9 View Post

      Similar to Luke Donald I believe? He missed the cut by 10 strokes.
      Seems like yesterday when he was top money man on both the PGA tour and the Euro Tour in 2011.
      Luke also had bad back issues and I believe he had surgery a few years ago.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lefty17 View Post

        Luke also had bad back issues and I believe he had surgery a few years ago.
        Yeh, I think he got that from trying to hit the ball further.
        plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

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        • #19
          Originally posted by AdiosAmigo View Post

          My point is that he is not happy and content with the good life. He wants to get back the game he knows he has. He isnt a quitter thats for sure.
          I agree, he is no quitter. He had the inner drive & determination to reach quite a level fo success early on, and I believe he still has that desire.

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          • #20
            He put up an 81 today. I haven’t seen any action yet but that’s not good
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Lefty17 View Post
              He put up an 81 today. I haven’t seen any action yet but that’s not good
              Ya but so did many others today too. Winged Foot can penalize you even on good strikes. That being said he isn't playing to his full potential. We see bits of the old Jordan here and there but I think its all between his ears. He gets down on himself while he's out there far too often. He wears his emotions on his sleeve.

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              • #22
                Them fugly under armour shoes are preventing the slide to the left he needed for his old chicken wing action. That wasn’t a great swing before but it worked for him

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                • #23
                  As people age, different things motivate them, their needs change, outlook on life changes, etc. Golf was a 24x7 thing for him for several years. (side note - I know someone who was a nationally ranked swimmer who now in their 20s wont even go near a pool unless to relax on a floatie) He's married now. Maybe having a happy home is what turns his crank now. Maybe the thing in life we wants to avoid is a situation where his wife chasing after him with a 7-iron and smashing his car.

                  Maybe he'll be the next Steve Stricker where his career will peak again later in life if his misses playing at the highest level.

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                  • #24
                    Never the best ball striker, Jordan is now ranked 188 in overall putting. Putting well covers up a lot of weaknesses elsewhere. When the magic left the short wand, he was exposed. Sort of like Tom Watson. Different playing styles, of course, but when you can drain every 8 footer for par it really frees up the rest of the game.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by meefer View Post
                      Never the best ball striker, Jordan is now ranked 188 in overall putting. Putting well covers up a lot of weaknesses elsewhere. When the magic left the short wand, he was exposed. Sort of like Tom Watson. Different playing styles, of course, but when you can drain every 8 footer for par it really frees up the rest of the game.
                      Reminded me of Weir making virtually every 6 footer at his Masters win. Once that goes away the weaknesses in the rest of game get amplified. I just wonder how someone loses it as quickly as Speith did. One of the golden boys no longer shines. That must bother him to no end.

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                      • #26
                        Many top short hitting pros come to the realization that the long hitters have a vast advantage. Every course really becomes a par 68 to the longer hitters so that's 4 strokes per round times 4 means he is really 16 shots behind at the start of the tournament. Pretty tough ride that mentally wears you out,ie Luke Donald,Mike Weir, Ian Baker Finch,Zack Johnson and Jordan Speith. So apparent in the Canadian Open playoff with Weir and Singh,where Mike had to hit 5 wd ,Vijay approached 18 with a 6 iron. I now wonder how many short hitting pros will try Bryson new method to pound that ball.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ginrin View Post
                          Many top short hitting pros come to the realization that the long hitters have a vast advantage. Every course really becomes a par 68 to the longer hitters so that's 4 strokes per round times 4 means he is really 16 shots behind at the start of the tournament. Pretty tough ride that mentally wears you out,ie Luke Donald,Mike Weir, Ian Baker Finch,Zack Johnson and Jordan Speith. So apparent in the Canadian Open playoff with Weir and Singh,where Mike had to hit 5 wd ,Vijay approached 18 with a 6 iron. I now wonder how many short hitting pros will try Bryson new method to pound that ball.
                          An advantage, for sure, but vast?

                          Short-knocker Weir was 2 ahead of Singh after 63 holes. Then 2 3-putts coming home got them tied.

                          He tied Singh on the first 2 playoff holes. Then hit a tee shot and then put a ball in the water.

                          He ended up losing, but I didn't see "vast" advantage. Just a little good/bad luck for each.

                          That was also during Vijay's epic year. 9 wins and he took over world #1 from Tiger - who had held it for just over 5 years running.

                          Back on topic, JS seems to have lost the magic of his putting. He was ridiculous at that for his big years. Seems odd that his watery disasters at Augusta would affect his putting, but it's probably all linked to confidence.
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                          • #28
                            I really don't think vast is overstated. Most pros do not spray the ball around like us ams so for them to hit it further they certainly have a vast advantage. Anyone here can hit a 3wd more accurately as a 6iron, probably not. Pros that can't hit most par5 in 2 are so screwed.

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                            • #29
                              Chasing the long ball can bleed into the short game. But I’m sure new marriage can affect the golf game too. Who knows. I’m sure Moe Norman would not have been so consistent good if he was married and had to travel in a car with the Mrs

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                              • #30
                                He’s too loyal for this, but he needs to fire everyone - Greller, McCormick, the whole ‘team‘ and do a complete reboot.

                                Change is as good as a vacation...

                                I think it’s his only way, it’s radical but he needs a fresh perspective. I would’ve thought they would’ve all resigned by now to make it easier on him but alas.

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