Optimal Wedges Shaft Length ?

[veryold]

Maybe i wasn't specific enough in my OP, but my main concern is that when doing delicate chips around the green, the SL SW is way too long shaft.
My main and only goal this evening is to take only 2 clubs (regular and SL SWs) and try to come to some conclusion/resolution to this problem.
Cheers

[Weirfan]

Maybe i wasn't specific enough in my OP, but my main concern is that when doing delicate chips around the green, the SL SW is way too long shaft.
My main and only goal this evening is to take only 2 clubs (regular and SL SWs) and try to come to some conclusion/resolution to this problem.
Cheers

As Andy said, SL wedges are longer and that might not work for everyone.

The Longer grips that Al suggested might be a solution for you.

for Chipping, ( your typical bump and run etc) I typically stand much more vertical and closer to the ball and have the heel off the ground as such I grip down quite a bit. Too long a wedge would make this a challenge for sure.

for pitching, not a concern

[veryold]

As Andy said, SL wedges are longer and that might not work for everyone.

The Longer grips that Al suggested might be a solution for you.

for Chipping, ( your typical bump and run etc) I typically stand much more vertical and closer to the ball and have the heel off the ground as such I grip down quite a bit. Too long a wedge would make this a challenge for sure.

for pitching, not a concern

EXACTLY !
Could've easily challenged my age 2 days ago if i hadn't "CHUNKED" at least 4 chips around the greens
An ABSOLUTE must to fix that !!!

[TourIQ]

Sorry I will trust Pelz over one of your awesome Duane anecdotes.
I have a very good short game by the way.

Awesome you have the game you want so enjoy.

[Mr22putt]

Standard Wedges: Too short for FULL SWINGS, fine for CHIPPING.
SL Wedges: Fine for FULL SWINGS, too LONG for CHIPPING.

I assume you're only talking about yourself and not the general golf population.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with SL irons...every golfer has their own unique golf preferences.

But IMO.....I'm not bought into SL to help reduce scores....if they were so great, why is there not more SL adoption?
I think most golfers would agree SL isn't the answer, especially competitive touring pros.

I believe Bryson is the only touring pro using SL irons.
Can others name other touring pros from the PGA, LIV, DP Tour and LPGA using SL irons?

[Mr22putt]

Duane already proved one of Pelz theorems incorrect while in high school, so take Pelz advice with a grain of salt. If you hit full shots with a wedge, then you do not want softer flex, otherwise the club won't hit the ball at the target. If you don't have the game to hit full wedge shots, then it really doesn't matter.

Just because Duane does not agree with Pelz's opinions & teaching doesn't mean the golf advice from Pelz is wrong.

Some golfers agree with Pelz's method, some not.

[Pingeye2_fan]

Just because Duane does not agree with Pelz's opinions & teaching doesn't mean the golf advice from Pelz is wrong.

Some golfers agree with Pelz's method, some not.

NASA scientist that studied the game for years = high schooler.

Also liked the “ If you don't have the game to hit full wedge shots, then it really doesn't matter.” comment.

Ernie Els once said he never hit a shot harder than 80%.
But unless you can go full send on a sand wedge, you don’t have game.

[Mr22putt]

NASA scientist that studied the game for years = high schooler.

.......

[Mr22putt]

Also liked the “ If you don't have the game to hit full wedge shots, then it really doesn't matter.” comment.

LOL
Ya...that comment was comic genius too, but for some reason I didn't comment.

[TourIQ]

Just because Duane does not agree with Pelz's opinions & teaching doesn't mean the golf advice from Pelz is wrong.
Some golfers agree with Pelz's method, some not.

I bought Pelz landmark bible and it is a wealth of knowledge.

The problem with golf guru's or any guru for that matter, is that they are not always 100% correct.
Pelz could be 95% bang on with all of his advice and he would be light years ahead of the hacks.

To quote Dr. W. E. Deming, "A single unexplained failure of a theory requires modification or abandonment of that theory".

[TourIQ]

NASA scientist that studied the game for years = high schooler.

I won't discredit our golf research we did for nearly a decade.

The "high schooler" you want to discredit presented some of his golf research using orthogonal arrays Design of Experiments (DOE) at the International Taguchi Symposium on advanced statistics while a Grade 9 student and he followed the SVP of Ford Motor Company, Corporate Quality Office for his 30-minute keynote address.

I do not recall a NASA scientist being on the short list of speakers at this prestigious event.

[veryold]

Maybe i wasn't specific enough in my OP, but my main concern is that when doing delicate chips around the green, the SL SW is way too long shaft.
My main and only goal this evening is to take only 2 clubs (regular and SL SWs) and try to come to some conclusion/resolution to this problem.
Cheers

OK, so I did exactly that last evening, and managed (in between puddles all over the course and plugged balls) to compare my SL SW and a regular SW.

So in conclusion, without a doubt, the refular SW is way too short, so will stick to my SL full set of irons (for now, LOL) ***BUT*** must remember to GRIP DOWN at least an inch for "chipping" around the green.

THANKS to all who contributed to this thread, i very much appreciated that.
CHeers
serge.

[MattM97]

Wedges are personal and something one may have to tinker with to find what works best. For me right now my wedges are all the same length, I believe 9i length and that's just comfortable for me vs the progressively shorter that ones would do standard.

Now I was listening to the Ping Podcast yesterday and Marty Jertson who's extremely smart and knowledgeable plays his 60° shorter so he doesn't have to choke down and with a lighter shaft so the swing weight is lighter thus the ball doesn't come off as hot and more control for him.

It's crazy how in depth one can go into wedges and how they can be played but many overlook them.

[rgk5]

I won't discredit our golf research we did for nearly a decade.

The "high schooler" you want to discredit presented some of his golf research using orthogonal arrays Design of Experiments (DOE) at the International Taguchi Symposium on advanced statistics while a Grade 9 student and he followed the SVP of Ford Motor Company, Corporate Quality Office for his 30-minute keynote address.

I do not recall a NASA scientist being on the short list of speakers at this prestigious event.

Why would a NASA scientist be at an event on advanced statistics?

[Pingeye2_fan]

Why would a NASA scientist be at an event on advanced statistics?

All I could find was this but I may have misspelled it.

https://tamagotchi.com