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  • #91
    $15,000 annual dues!!!! Wow, that seems high, unless included minimums and events.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by golfingtime View Post
      $15,000 annual dues!!!! Wow, that seems high, unless included minimums and events.
      Beacon Hall has 260 members. My observation is most higher-end GTA private clubs need around $3.5-4M to operate. Just divide that by the number of members to get the annual dues. For example, 500 members = $7500 dues.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by OnlyBirdies View Post

        Have to agree with this. Regardless of the state of the game, land prices are going to continue to rise. At some point, they will reach a price that members/owners of the golf courses won't be able to say no too.

        It will be interesting if governments get involved as green space is becoming a hot topic in the cities. Oakville seems to be losing the battle against Clublink though when it comes to the Glen Abbey sale/development.
        I doubt “governments” will do anything to prevent it. My observation is that they generally speak with “forked tongues”. They speak publicly about preserving green space (to pander to existing residents) but privately lust for the massive increase in taxes that come from converting a low tax golf course into the tax stream from 1000 new $1mm homes. There actions usually support the second concept.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by OnlyBirdies View Post

          Have to agree with this. Regardless of the state of the game, land prices are going to continue to rise. At some point, they will reach a price that members/owners of the golf courses won't be able to say no too.

          It will be interesting if governments get involved as green space is becoming a hot topic in the cities. Oakville seems to be losing the battle against Clublink though when it comes to the Glen Abbey sale/development.
          The process we are seeing is one that has been going on here on since John Graves Simcoe established the Town of York. As population grows and personal travel mobility improves, higher intensity land uses have always overtaken less intensive land uses, unless specifically protected by government decree....and even then they remain threatened, as does today's Greenbelt. A snapshot of land use changes in the early 1900's would show similar processes in place. Golf courses are just one aspect of that. One difference today is that we are increasingly appreciating environmental considerations of natural spaces, as well as their economic benefits in an urban environment, and that we are approaching tangible limits on green space availability in the GTA. None of this is surprising and yes green space in the GTA is a hot topic.

          As for the Oakville / Glen Abbey matter, the City knew full well they were in a losing position form the start, but they chose to pursue that issue only for political appearances sake, and needlessly spent a lot of taxpayer dollars doing that.


          Fortunately there are no rules limiting the number of golf balls you can carry during a match!

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          • #95
            Its probably a bit less since they have child, social and an intermediate category - but not too far off. A "real" no tee times place. Clublink needs approx 400 members @ say $6K to make numbers work, so that kind of makes sense, maybe a $1MM extra depends on staffing senior spots and what that is worth...

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            • #96
              Originally posted by kcirtap View Post
              Its probably a bit less since they have child, social and an intermediate category - but not too far off. A "real" no tee times place. Clublink needs approx 400 members @ say $6K to make numbers work, so that kind of makes sense, maybe a $1MM extra depends on staffing senior spots and what that is worth...
              No it isn't.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by golfingtime View Post
                $15,000 annual dues!!!! Wow, that seems high, unless included minimums and events.
                $15k is an amount that covers everything, including annual dues, quarterly capital improvement fees, food minimum, etc. With an equity share ownership structure and open access to the tee, the 260 members have to fund operations with only minimum income from outside tournaments & guest fees.

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                • #98
                  I noticed there was another article in Globe & Mail today about Beacon Hall. Does anyone care to post it? I cancelled my subscription as I wasn't much of a fan of the journalism but I wouldn't mind reading what they wrote in the article. I found the previous one to be typical of Globe & Mail. They made the game seem like it was dying and didn't once reference the rebound this year in golf and what it could potentially mean for the future.

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                  • #99
                    Low-profile builder Treasure Hill Homes is stepping into the spotlight with a $250-million offer to redevelop the lands of Ontario’s Beacon Hall Golf Club, a course that is ranked among the best in the country.

                    Vaughan-based Treasure Hill, founded 17 years ago by entrepreneur Nicholas Fidei, confirmed on Wednesday it won a hotly contested bidding war for Beacon Hall, a 200-acre property in Aurora, just north of Toronto.

                    Last week, Beacon Hall’s board told its 260 members it had settled on a potential buyer, but did not reveal the company’s identity. Beacon Hall’s members stand to pocket about $960,000 each if they agree to sell.

                    The board put the 32-year-old club’s land up for sale after an unsolicited offer three years ago indicated a huge increase in its value.
                    Mr. Fidei, a 42-year-old ardent golfer and cyclist, now faces the daunting task of converting the club’s land into a suburb at a time when many members, neighbours and Aurora’s mayor oppose transforming fairways into driveways.

                    The country’s largest golf course owner, Club Link, is several years into fights with neighbourhood groups over plans to build homes on the grounds of the Glen Abbey Golf Club in Oakville and Kanata Golf and Country Club in Ottawa.

                    “The sale of Beacon Hall would be a tremendous loss for the town of Aurora,” mayor Tom Mrakas said in an e-mail on Wednesday. “This golf course is one of the premier courses, with many championships played here. While the town has no authority over the sale, I want to be clear that any development application to change the existing land-use designations of Beacon Hall golf course lands would have to conform to the existing policies of the town’s official plan.”

                    Mr. Fidei said in an e-mail that any development will include significant parkland, and that the offer for Beacon Hall is conditional on Treasure Hill inspecting the site. The golf course winds through woodlands and is one of the few undeveloped pieces of real estate on Yonge Street, a major traffic artery.

                    “Our preliminary work has indicated that while there is a substantial opportunity to develop an exciting new residential community on these lands, a significant portion of the lands will remain as open space and will likely be conveyed into public ownership through the development process,” he said. “We are looking forward to the prospect of working with community stakeholders and municipal staff to deliver a ‘legacy community’ that will stand as one of Aurora’s most sought after residential enclaves.”

                    Privately owned Treasure Hill has built more than 10,000 homes in the Toronto suburbs and Florida, and gone largely unnoticed in media. Recently, the company successfully linked developments to golf, selling 100 homes near Aurora’s Magna Golf Club in three days last summer.

                    The developer priced the single-family properties at $1.3-million to $1.6-million. These homes sold at the same time developer Trillyan Investment Ltd. acquired the Magna property and said it will continue as a golf course.


                    Beacon Hall members paid $40,000 to $80,000 to join the club and gain an equity stake, along with about $15,000 in annual dues. An often-acrimonious debate over the club’s future that began with the offer three years ago now pits those who are wealthy enough to pass up a potential windfall because they enjoy the course against those who see a $960,000 payout as a significant personal gain.

                    Members are scheduled to vote on Treasure Hill’s offer in February, and two-thirds of the golfers must approve the sale. Beacon Hall’s ranks include current and retired CEOs, lawyers and investment bankers. The golf club and its members declined to comment on the sale.

                    Treasure Hill’s bid may also face opposition from the owners of condominiums on the Beacon Hall property. In an e-mail to its members last week, the condo owner’s board said it is not willing to negotiate with a prospective purchaser, even if the golf club members agree to a sale.

                    Mr. Fidei’s friends say the father of four can navigate the challenges that come with buying Beacon Hall, or walk away if the project becomes unprofitable. “As a wealth adviser working with business owners, I seldom encountered entrepreneurs who are as successful as Nick,” said Richard Dri, a portfolio manager at Scotia Wealth Management in Toronto. “He has an uncommon instinct of knowing when to keep pushing and when it’s time to pivot. Some entrepreneurs pivot too early and never achieve success, others pivot too late and end up in bankruptcy.”

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                    • Originally posted by mattsoks View Post
                      Low-profile builder Treasure Hill Homes is stepping into the spotlight with a $250-million offer to redevelop the lands of Ontario’s Beacon Hall Golf Club, a course that is ranked among the best in the country.

                      Vaughan-based Treasure Hill, founded 17 years ago by entrepreneur Nicholas Fidei, confirmed on Wednesday it won a hotly contested bidding war for Beacon Hall, a 200-acre property in Aurora, just north of Toronto.

                      Last week, Beacon Hall’s board told its 260 members it had settled on a potential buyer, but did not reveal the company’s identity. Beacon Hall’s members stand to pocket about $960,000 each if they agree to sell.

                      The board put the 32-year-old club’s land up for sale after an unsolicited offer three years ago indicated a huge increase in its value.
                      Mr. Fidei, a 42-year-old ardent golfer and cyclist, now faces the daunting task of converting the club’s land into a suburb at a time when many members, neighbours and Aurora’s mayor oppose transforming fairways into driveways.

                      The country’s largest golf course owner, Club Link, is several years into fights with neighbourhood groups over plans to build homes on the grounds of the Glen Abbey Golf Club in Oakville and Kanata Golf and Country Club in Ottawa.

                      “The sale of Beacon Hall would be a tremendous loss for the town of Aurora,” mayor Tom Mrakas said in an e-mail on Wednesday. “This golf course is one of the premier courses, with many championships played here. While the town has no authority over the sale, I want to be clear that any development application to change the existing land-use designations of Beacon Hall golf course lands would have to conform to the existing policies of the town’s official plan.”

                      Mr. Fidei said in an e-mail that any development will include significant parkland, and that the offer for Beacon Hall is conditional on Treasure Hill inspecting the site. The golf course winds through woodlands and is one of the few undeveloped pieces of real estate on Yonge Street, a major traffic artery.

                      “Our preliminary work has indicated that while there is a substantial opportunity to develop an exciting new residential community on these lands, a significant portion of the lands will remain as open space and will likely be conveyed into public ownership through the development process,” he said. “We are looking forward to the prospect of working with community stakeholders and municipal staff to deliver a ‘legacy community’ that will stand as one of Aurora’s most sought after residential enclaves.”

                      Privately owned Treasure Hill has built more than 10,000 homes in the Toronto suburbs and Florida, and gone largely unnoticed in media. Recently, the company successfully linked developments to golf, selling 100 homes near Aurora’s Magna Golf Club in three days last summer.

                      The developer priced the single-family properties at $1.3-million to $1.6-million. These homes sold at the same time developer Trillyan Investment Ltd. acquired the Magna property and said it will continue as a golf course.


                      Beacon Hall members paid $40,000 to $80,000 to join the club and gain an equity stake, along with about $15,000 in annual dues. An often-acrimonious debate over the club’s future that began with the offer three years ago now pits those who are wealthy enough to pass up a potential windfall because they enjoy the course against those who see a $960,000 payout as a significant personal gain.

                      Members are scheduled to vote on Treasure Hill’s offer in February, and two-thirds of the golfers must approve the sale. Beacon Hall’s ranks include current and retired CEOs, lawyers and investment bankers. The golf club and its members declined to comment on the sale.

                      Treasure Hill’s bid may also face opposition from the owners of condominiums on the Beacon Hall property. In an e-mail to its members last week, the condo owner’s board said it is not willing to negotiate with a prospective purchaser, even if the golf club members agree to a sale.

                      Mr. Fidei’s friends say the father of four can navigate the challenges that come with buying Beacon Hall, or walk away if the project becomes unprofitable. “As a wealth adviser working with business owners, I seldom encountered entrepreneurs who are as successful as Nick,” said Richard Dri, a portfolio manager at Scotia Wealth Management in Toronto. “He has an uncommon instinct of knowing when to keep pushing and when it’s time to pivot. Some entrepreneurs pivot too early and never achieve success, others pivot too late and end up in bankruptcy.”
                      Thank you

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                      • Welcome!

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                        • In a bit of a sign of moving forward. Beacon Hall has brought back former longtime assistant superintendent Colin Young as superintendent. Colin replaces Paul Scenna who has moved on to Toronto GC.

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                          • That mean the sale didn’t go through?

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                            • Originally posted by Bosco View Post
                              That mean the sale didn’t go through?
                              Wishful but probably not.

                              The course likely stays open another year or part of even with a sale and so needs a super .....quite likely the other left to greener fairways due to the impending sale ?

                              wont know until the vote for sure.
                              "Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened "

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                              • Adding on - even if the sale does go through, there will more than likely be 3-5 years of golf before they actually close down.
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